To feel sorry for the fake admiral

He’s an absolute shit and coward, a poor excuse of a man.

I can’t for the life of me understand how anyone can feel sorry for him.

He had someone sew a uniform for him and went to events which were to remember soldiers who died. He made speeches! He pushed himself in and put wreaths on memorials.

Why don’t you invite him along to a funeral for a loved one and he can make up a lovely speech about them in front of everyone? Who cares if he doesn’t know anything about that person and who cares if people who actually do have experience are pushed out?

I quite agree and to this end I was delighted to see AMW demoted to his real rank of Commander.

YABU.

Well, they didn’t die for those particular medals….

It seems to be a victimless crime

Not from the effort the police and CPS put into prosecuting it

I think he has got off lightly tbh!

I know there are all sorts of versions of “my truth” out there atm but this is an undisputed case of the objective truth, that he did not serve at such and such a rank at such and such a time! Surely that should hold more value than £300?

Utterly pathetic. One should have grown out of that sort of self indulgent fantasy by about the age of eight imho!

I don't feel the slightest bit sorry for that awful man.

Those I feel sorry for are the REAL Admirals that have worked their arses off to get to where they are/were, the REAL people, only for some fakey to try to get credit.

What he did was a total 1000% insult to those who genuinely deserve to wear the uniforms and badges.

He's been fined.

How fake admiral Jonathan Carley was caught by sword and rare medals - BBC News https://share.google/wxltXIbcXKeQ2ZR3Z

Oh and another thing. Don't you dare call me an "Andrew defender" for calling you out on hijacking a thread where others like myself are dealing every single day with the actual difficulties faced by veterans, people who had a valid view on this topic who you have treated with the utmost disdain, disrespect and at times complete arrogance and near ridicule.

Yes and apparently I am now "unpleasant". I'll take my chances on that one, and stand by what I've persistently said about their hijacking of this thread for their own ends, and the despicable lack of respect they have shown throughout.

If you actually knew the history of this poster on this thread you'll see why this is my current response. That same history will show you there has been no point having an attempt at sensible discussion with them. What matters to me is their persistent disrespect to veterans families like mine on this thread not their views on royalty.

Yep..another thread ruined...

Personally I was finding the continual hints/insinuations that anyone patiently explaining the various protocols (promotions, uniforms, wearing of decorations) was automatically an "Andrew supporter" grossly offensive.

In my opinion, that poster is a tone deaf wanker. God forbid we tell them that though. They can derail and ride roughshod over the topic, reporting achieves nothing, and telling them what you think of the behaviour is not allowed.

I've tried hard to say this is what I think about the behaviour, rather than name calling but even so.

Awaits deletion.

Maybe, but this thread, which contained serious discussion for a while, has been crayoned all over and dragged way off topic by a poster with an agenda so I get the annoyance.

On some better moderated forums the miscreant would have been banned well before the thread started to go off piste.

Wow. How unnecessarily unpleasant. I suspect it does matter to you if you are posting like that Catsknowbest.

Sorry I was at work with the other grown ups. Draw what you like 🤣🤣 anyone who has all day to post as much as you do all over the same site has no life so...your opinion doesn't matter to me.

Enough posters = a handful of Andrew defenders

We can draw our own conclusions based on that alone .

This is the reason in don’t feel sorry for him or any other imposter. They don’t just stop at one thing, it’s a life full of lies and deception.

And we see you. Get a life.

Why are you still persisting on this thread? Enough posters have told you how disrespectful you are. Do you not have a job of any kind? Perhaps a spell of honest military service would do you the world of good.

YABU OP

Motte: he's pitiful and we should feel sorry for him.
Bailey: it's a victimless crime and he should be let off with a caution.

No. The point is far wider than that .

However with the situation you and your husband have found yourselves in I understand your not wanting to engage with the wider issue.

@Ukisgaslit

Do you really not understand the point re Andrew Windsor ?

I understand the point you keep trying to make.

FWUW A M W reputation as an unpleasant individual was known across the forces decades ago, even before he met Epstein.

All that doesn't mean he was walting or wearing decorations he was not entitled to wear, which is what this thread is about.