To allow DD to buy this 'obscene' top?

Haha yes! My best friend had one that basically said “undress me and cover me in peanut butter”! She would wear it for 6th form,

Tell your sister to take a hike. None of her business.
The fact that so many on here are saying it's just a boring grey T shirt gives you some idea how the rest British public might react.
What I object to is that it will cost a fortune cos of this illegible bit of writing. What a rip-off ...

Its absolutely fine. And Im not a fan of young girls in very skimpy tops. There's nothing wrong with this one.

I don't think it is obscene in any way. Advertising Victoria's Secret could lead to questions about her underwear (from girls not just boys) which may be embarrassing though, so your DD should be prepared to be firm/blunt in her response if that happens.

OP's sister is right.
A 14 year old girl shouldn't be advertising for a lingerie brand. Yes, they sell other clothing, but they are primarily a lingerie line. The VS fashion angels don't strut out in sweats.

It’s not obscene

it’s an unremarkable overpriced tshirt

i’d not be delighted about the brand name on it but I couldn’t get worked up about it

I can't stand Victoria's secret and their obsession with men wearing their underwear so I don't like it at all - but it's not "obscene". Would be better without the advertising across the front but your daughter is young and impressionable.

Wow you sister must be a right kill joy!! Calling a grey t shirt 'obscene' is a real stretch!!

I personally wouldn't want to be walking round advertising a lingerie brand but honestly who would even notice that on a 14yr old. It's a total non issue.let her wear it if she wants to.

Ann Summers sells sex toys and fetish wear. It’s an adult store that also sells lingerie (primarily so they have something they can legally put in the window).

Victoria’s Secret just sells ordinary underwear and pyjamas. They’re not the same thing. Victoria’s Secret sells the kind of stuff you can buy in the underwear section of any department store.

Exactly. Dd is the same age and they don't think of VS as a lingerie brand. She has a couple of sweatshirts from there, the perfume and a few body sprays. They are also very into Y2k fashion and the VS original PINK bootcut leggings are really sought after. Dd paid a crazy amount on depop for a pair. I think it's only the older generation that think lingerie for the brand.
On a separate note OP your Dsis sounds incredibly prudish and I've no idea why you would listen to such nonsense. Let your dd buy a t-shirt if she likes it. Absolutely nothing wrong with it.

It's tacky and therefore perfect for a teen girl experimenting haha, I used to feel SO rebellious with my FCUK top 🤣🤣, I even know an adult woman with a playboy bunny on her lower back, at least it's not that!

Overall I dislike VS as they had problems in the past with leaving garment workers unpaid iirc but it is aimed squarely at the under 25 bracket so she is the target customer

Exactly this.

This wouldn't bother me. Your sister's pearl-clutching imo.

It’s a really popular brand with teens, especially the fragrances. It’s underwear yeah, but it’s not Ann Summers. Your sister sounds like a puritan.

It's just a t shirt.
In all honesty I would probably discourage my daughter from getting it but that's about me and my thoughts on the brand and we can have jokey conversations that get to the root of why in a gentle way. She has strong opinions and would equally back her corner on it. Ultimately it would be her decision and I would not judge another child for wearing it.
If you have no opinions on it, then there is no point having any discussions with her. After your child's journey that may even do more harm than good.

It's a good time for your daughter to figure herself out while you are here to catch her if she makes a mistake.
At 14 my daughter bought a little crochet bikini top that two years later she is yet to wear, but she got to feel what it was like to own such a thing. I would have helped her find times when she could wear it and ways to wear it and not feel self conscious or judged, but for whatever reason she hasn't experimented with wearing it. This t shirt is literally just a t shirt with a shop name on it.

I wouldn’t buy anything from there as I think it’s overpriced tat. There again I’m not a teenager.
If she likes it then it’s fine.
Dd had a thing about their perfumes when she was a young teen. I find them quite chemical smelling.

Is this real? Victoria Secret doesn't just sell lingerie. It sells cosmetics, perfumes and clothes. Hoodies, leggings, sweatshirts, TShirts. She's not advertising lingerie and as for 'obscene', that's just crazy. Your daughter has asked for a very normal, plain Tshirt.This has to be one of the most crackpot things I've read on here for a while.

YABU to listen to your sister, why is it any of her business? The top is fine anyway, but even if it wasn't it is nothing to do with her.

Is your sister not a little old to still be sniffing glue?

@maggie2k I'm a 64 year old pearl clutcher with quite classic/old fashioned views and I can't see a problem with it. It moght be a lotyle too close to the knuckle if your dd is actually called Victoria.

When I was a teenager, we loved Playboy merchandise, which in hindsight is disgusting. I think VS is fine, though.

It’s not obscene but given the brand logo I’d assume it was a pyjama top I think. I didn’t allow playboy or FCUK back in the day though.

Has she asked your sister to buy it for her? If not why does your sister even know about it?

Is this a wind up - can’t believe this is a problem at all. At least you must have a lovely life if this is what makes you start a thread.

It's just a plain t-shirt?! People might not like VS because they also make underwear (don't we all wear underwear of some kind?) but it's not distasteful. If it was Ann Summers I could see the point, although I still wouldn't think the tee was obscene. It doesn't have eg a phallic symbol graphic or offensive/rude wording on, so I would be "meh". If her school are OK with it, I don't see why your sister should think it unwearable.

She's done really well to lose that weight, it must be lovely for her to feel able to wear what she wants. Tell Sis to keep her beak out!

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