To allow DD to buy this 'obscene' top?

Just like fcuk was the 'in' t-shirt back in my day. Don't see an issue.
I font even see it the same as FCUK. That logo was designed to be controversial and get people talking with the faux naivety of ' oh it stands for French Connection! Victoria Secrets is just a brand logo. Its hardly Anne Summers.

VS do brilliant pants, the seamless ones from Pink are so comfortable!

Just like fcuk was the 'in' t-shirt back in my day. Don't see an issue.

Not related to your original post but Zara perfumes are amazing, really long lasting and cheap. I smelt a couple of work colleagues wearing them recently and and have since bought myself 3 different ones and have another on my Xmas list! Totally converted.

re: your original post, I’m 54 and see nothing wrong with the top at all. I no longer associate Victoria’s Secret with only underwear - (lots of which is lovely by the way and not all overly sexy - some of my DD’s first bras came from
there!) but with the other clothing, accessories and beauty products they also now sell. Let her buy the top!

I think it’s quite cute. Better than FCUK ones or others I ve seen lately

I had a t-shirt with an image and the words "Scent of a Woman" on it.

I had it for about three YEARS before I realised the woman on the front wasn't smoking, she was smelling her own fingers .

I also had one that said Slow FCUK on it. Caused a scandal in a bar in Vermont once!

It’s a t shirt advertising a brand that sells, amongst other things, underwear. M&S sell underwear and often have lingerie in the window…how would you feel about an M&S t shirt?

If you sister thinks that T-shirt is in any way "obscene" than she has led a very sheltered life 🤔. It's a T-shirt.. it's fine. And the logo does not equate to anything obscene either. Ignore the sister

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I wouldn’t be delighted - Victoria’s Secret is most famous for its shows which celebrate unrealistic body image and objectify women sexually. By wearing the tee, naturally your dd is buying into that brand. But then again, in the 90s I wore:

FCUK tee with ‘naked underneath’ written on it
Playboy bunny tee
tee with a handprint on each boob

So who am I to judge?!

I don’t think it’s obscene. It only looks ‘sexy’ on the model because she’s wearing low rise trousers where you can almost see where babies come from, I’m assuming you don’t like DD wear ultra low rise trousers/jeans. In which case, this is just a T-shirt.

1. What’s it got to do with your sister what your daughter is wearing?
2. It’s just a t-shirt, nothing obscene imo, yes it’s a lingerie brand, but hey, no where near as bad as the French Connection T-Shirts (FCUK) from the early 2000’s that had some awful slogans on, which I rocked round wearing thinking I was the mutts nuts - admittedly a little older but only a couple of years 😂

Let her buy the t-shirt !!

As well as lingerie VS sell costume jewellery, sweatshirts, hoodies, loungewear and dresses. Almost a modern take on Top Shop.

Sister is both interfering and bonkers!

I find it amazing on a parenting site that so few parents understand adolescence. It is normal, and possibly even desirable, to find your teen's taste in clothing baffling, or tacky, or cringe, in the same way that it is normal to be baffled by their slang. It's all part of the very healthy and important process of children separating from their parents and finding their own way as young adults.

Not obscene but is tacky and a bit cringe. I think it looks like a PJ/loungewear top especially given the undies branding - is she sure it isn’t intended as such?

I don’t like VS as a brand and wouldn’t want my child wearing it, especially to school. But it’s not obscene.

I think its a pyjama top.

It's fine. It looks like any other top kids her age wear.

I attempted to wear a lot worse when I was that age. Let your daughter crack on.

For the same reason any clothing brand displays their logo. So it differentiates the item from other brands or unbranded clothing!

It’s way better than us walking around in playboy logos back in the day 😆. And yes not comparable to Ann summers. A plain grey t shirt with a discreet logo should be so far down the list of vetos for a teen that you cant even see the list 😆

Its a standard fitted T shirt popular amongst teens.
Tbh i'm concerned about the person who thinks this is "obscene" and "lingerie" because its a simple grey t shirt because that seems irrational.
If its the logo (rhinestone victorias secret) thats the issue,Victorias secrets makes clothing from fleecy pjs to sports wear not just underwear.

Good luck “teaching” teenage girls to only wear clothes their 40/50 something mothers approve of 😀. Have you ever met a teenage girl!!

14-15 are the worst years for this. My hard won advice (and numerous friends who’ve parented both easy and challenging teens) is pick your battles and clothes definitely is not the one to choose. Go in hard on clothes and upset them / damage their confidence and trash your relationship with them. All because you care what the neighbors / your sister might think about their outfits. Not great parenting.

I loved my FC tees back in the 90s. I had 'Bristol cities' and another that said 'kiss me quick, fcuk me slowly'.

OP, I'm a bit baffled that a t-shirt your daughter is considering buying is even a topic of conversation with your sister!

God forbid we teach 14 year old girls that they have to not wear certain items or certain brands just incase a male decides the twinkling rhinestones drive him into a wild frenzy

Yes, totally the same as Playboy bunny logos in the 90s. It's tacky and understandable why your sister thinks an inappropriate association, but not obscene in it s own right - it's just a t-shirt. And actually, not as bad as Playboy because VS is just lingerie and Playboy was soft porn.