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To allow DD to buy this 'obscene' top?

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maggie2k · 14/11/2025 23:35

DD14 just lost 10kg, went down from 62 to 52kg (she's pretty petite, only 160 cm tall) and wants to buy herself this top since she's now at a healthy weight for her age and was putting off buying new tops earlier because she didn't want them to stop fitting her: https://www.victoriassecret.co.uk/style/su826145/w96067

My sister thinks it's 'obscene' and a 'lingerie ad' as well as 'something she saw on social media' which is complete nonsense because she uses one of those granny flip phones and isn't on social media except discord, spotify and IRC (no idea if those count)

I don't see the problem honestly, there's nothing obscene about lingerie if you ask me in the 1st place, and VS has always made clothes

This is a photo of the top in the colour she wants it:

To allow DD to buy this 'obscene' top?
OP posts:
BrickBiscuit · 15/11/2025 01:31

maggie2k · 15/11/2025 00:03

Why though?

A glance at the landing page of their website will tell you all you need to know.

PalePinkPeony · 15/11/2025 01:23

The brand sells all sorts- perfumes, body wash, dressing gowns, pj’s. It’s just a brand. It’s not like she’s going out wearing a bra triangle top!
Its just a T-shirt

QuickPeachPoet · 15/11/2025 01:22

maggie2k · 14/11/2025 23:39

My sister thinks the issue is because it says 'victoria's secret' in little rhine stones

she needs to stop being so prissy. I was expecting some skimpy barely there crop top. Especially as she is petite as long as she doesn't have flesh on show at school it's fine.
Looks a bit like a pyjama top or something you would wear to do yoga but it is fine.
Well done to DD on her weight loss!

GinaandGin · 15/11/2025 01:18

Oh please
Your sister sounds like a right prude and fuss pot
I am old enough to remember the "johnston baddie powder" t shirts and the fcuk tops
I had a "not so innocent " t shirt I got from tip shop when I was around 15
Vs do a pink range which is athletic leisure for girls.. I bet your sister would have an issue with that too ?

AndreaMarvell · 15/11/2025 01:17

@mnhq please remove the post I put above. I was quoting something from a Tshirt logo and meant no offence! Sorry! I tried to report it but as the post was greyed out it wasn't allowed. #mortified

AndreaMarvell · 15/11/2025 01:17

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AspiringChatBot · 15/11/2025 01:16

Is your sister maybe referring to the accusations against Victoria's Secret founder and until recently CEO (he stepped down due to the controversy but remains executive chair of the Board of Directors) Les Wexner, who was an associate of Jeffrey Epstein? Wexner owned a whole set of brands including Bath & Body Works, La Senza, Henri Bendel, and CO Bigelow, but VS was especially highlighted and impacted as Wexner allegedly allowed Epstein to act as a modeling scout for the brand in order to procure underage girls for sex trafficking. Despite Wexner's stepping out of an active role (of course, he still profits) and the fact that he cut ties with Epstein in 2007 and later sued him for mismanagement of funds, VS does still have a bit of a negative (and definitely downmarket) reputation as a result.

whatisthegoddamnholdup · 15/11/2025 01:04

There is nothing remotely wrong with this top. Your sister is being really ridiculous.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 15/11/2025 01:04

maggie2k · 14/11/2025 23:38

All it says is 'victoria's secret' and because she's petite it'll also be longish looking on her

She goes to a private girls school with no uniform so has been buying a lot of new clothes lately

Oh I’m dead against schools that are non uniform.
Don’t ask me why but I guess it’s the amount of thought and worry on what to wear each day for school and the competitive element.

Ladyzfactor · 15/11/2025 01:00

ClementinesForChristmas · 14/11/2025 23:46

As someone old enough to remember the Playboy logo being fashionable, YANBU OP. it’s not exactly stylish, but let the teen think she’s being grown up and sexy (she’ll cringe in a few years).

Ohh, that brought a flashback of tanning and putting a little Playboy Bunny sticker on to judge my tanness. Thankfully I didn't get super into tanning but still cringe at the thought.

SchrodingersKoala · 15/11/2025 00:45

It looks like a pj top, not something I'd wear outside the house. It isn't obscene though, just a plain old grey t-shirt.

miniaturepixieonacid · 15/11/2025 00:42

Not what I was expecting to see at all, that is totally fine.

Teens like to raise eyebrows with their clothing in some way or other. That's never going to change.

The first time my mum let my sister and me go proper city shopping (we lived rurally) we got the train to Aflex Palace in Manchester aged 14 and 16. When we came home my sister was wearing a new top that read 'I'm not a Bitch, I'm The Bitch and it's Miss Bitch to you.' and I was wearing one that said 'This is my antisocial, f**k the world, scary black t-shirt.' We had other similar monstrosities. Parents were horrified. We grew out of it.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 15/11/2025 00:36

When my DD was 14-15yo she told me everyone bought things from VS Pink , I was "Hell No" but apparently , VSPink was different as it was aimed at teens .

She did get some really nice things - pyjamas, TShirts , pants .Nothing in there was sordid . Expensive yes .
It felt a bit weird as they keep them in chest of drawers so you feel like you;re rifling through someone's knicker drawer ShockThe sales staff were always really nice and very helpful

Roll on a few years DD is 23 and d'you know , she still has a couple of pairs of the pants . ( I do say I think you need to replace these but the quality was great )

WeirdyBeardyMarrowBabyLady · 15/11/2025 00:32

Do you honestly need the views of MN on this?

Callwaiting2025 · 15/11/2025 00:31

LBOCS2 · 15/11/2025 00:24

So.. Victoria’s Secret is a lingerie brand. Overpriced and made of polyester but ultimately just… underwear. Like wearing a top saying La Senza back in the day, except with better marketing? We do all in fact wear underwear, I’m not sure why the idea is obscene.

At 14 in the 90s my three favourite tops were: a bright red top with a glittery silver playboy bunny on it, a black top with FCUK on the front, and a black top which had in very small text over the boobs “if you can read this, you’re standing too close. Fuck off”.

This is very tame comparatively; but I would warn her that the school might not like it in which case she can’t wear it and the money might be wasted.

When I was 17 I used to wear a bright yellow, fairly loose crop top that I bought in Spain with the words "Sugar Baby Doll" on it - and it was split down both sides low enough to reveal my bra. It was sooo tacky and awful, but I loved that top.

OPs daughter's taste looks quite tame in comparison.

jamimmi · 15/11/2025 00:31

Good grief,.its fine! As.the mother of an 18 yr old dd i was expecting somthing totally different! I assume your sister doesnt have teen daughters. It thats as reveling as it gets you have no worries

Dita73 · 15/11/2025 00:30

Your sister sounds unhinged,not that it matters as it’s got sod all to do with her anyway

Ahfiddlesticks · 15/11/2025 00:29

LaserPumpkin · 14/11/2025 23:46

It’s better than the FCUK ones everyone used to wear back in the day

I was thinking exactly the same. Times haven't really changed

CuddlyPug · 15/11/2025 00:27

The stricter you are with a teen the wilder they will be when they are finally off the leash. Many years ago, one of my friends ended up staying in a hostel as a teacher trainee and it was run on supposedly strict religious lines for the "young ladies", most of whom were convent educated. My friend whose family were a bit more secular was open-mouthed about what went on there - I mean near unconscious drunken residents being hauled upstairs by their friends to make curfew, men being smuggled in and so on. I heard the same sort of story recently about the goings on in a hall of residence where you were expected to dress for dinner. Let her buy the top - in some circles it would be seen as positively Quaker-like. I was expecting a skimpy plunging thing from the description of obscene.

Shadesofscarlett · 15/11/2025 00:26

why are you asking your sister to approve what your daughter wears?

LBOCS2 · 15/11/2025 00:24

So.. Victoria’s Secret is a lingerie brand. Overpriced and made of polyester but ultimately just… underwear. Like wearing a top saying La Senza back in the day, except with better marketing? We do all in fact wear underwear, I’m not sure why the idea is obscene.

At 14 in the 90s my three favourite tops were: a bright red top with a glittery silver playboy bunny on it, a black top with FCUK on the front, and a black top which had in very small text over the boobs “if you can read this, you’re standing too close. Fuck off”.

This is very tame comparatively; but I would warn her that the school might not like it in which case she can’t wear it and the money might be wasted.

Callwaiting2025 · 15/11/2025 00:23

Oh and yes at her age it probably is to appeal to boys, which is fine and normal. It's not obscene, and it does not cross any boundaries at all.

Notatallanamechange · 15/11/2025 00:21

maggie2k · 15/11/2025 00:17

she already has a 'boyfriend', this nearly 16 year old russian boy who lives 2 streets down, i personally find him very annoying as all he talks about is games and ww2 and all they ever seem to do is sit in the living room and (noisily!) play video games on some console he brings over

she's been in a 'relationship' with him for a year now and not done any major changes to her wardrobe so I doubt the reason for this is to appeal to boys

Again, with all due respect, the change in the T-shirts style was my point in encouraging attention. All wanted attention, this is in no way a comment on boys or girls as teenagers. But I genuinely can only describe it as the weirdest ‘courting ritual’ ever. There’s always a tee 🙂🙄

Which links in with going past being a tween to TEEN.

MungoforPresident · 15/11/2025 00:19

Your girl deserves to have the top for all the hard work she has put in, losing weight and now feeling good about herself. The last thing she needs is some other kind of body image judgement from your sis who is off her rocker!

It's a really nice t-shirt and there is nothing obscene about it. I suspect your sis has some sex hangups and to her, this is vulgar because anything hinting at sexy lingerie is vulgar. That is her problem. It smacks of her own insecurities.

Callwaiting2025 · 15/11/2025 00:18

Your sister has some serious problems. Without any hyperbole. Of course she can buy herself this top.

I wouldn't allow your sister to interact with your child on her own, just be around within earshot, because her reaction to this is odd and extreme, and I wonder if it comes from jealousy of your daughter or from something equally concerning.