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To allow DD to buy this 'obscene' top?

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maggie2k · 14/11/2025 23:35

DD14 just lost 10kg, went down from 62 to 52kg (she's pretty petite, only 160 cm tall) and wants to buy herself this top since she's now at a healthy weight for her age and was putting off buying new tops earlier because she didn't want them to stop fitting her: https://www.victoriassecret.co.uk/style/su826145/w96067

My sister thinks it's 'obscene' and a 'lingerie ad' as well as 'something she saw on social media' which is complete nonsense because she uses one of those granny flip phones and isn't on social media except discord, spotify and IRC (no idea if those count)

I don't see the problem honestly, there's nothing obscene about lingerie if you ask me in the 1st place, and VS has always made clothes

This is a photo of the top in the colour she wants it:

To allow DD to buy this 'obscene' top?
OP posts:
GrandmasCat · 15/11/2025 06:16

It is just a t-shirt advertising lingerie. I don’t have a problem with it being a t-shirt but VS? Really? I have worn the brand for more than 30 years but I would find it a bit tacky wearing something with their logo across my chest…
(surely.., I don’t want the world and their dog to know my underwear preferences 😁)

Speakingofthis · 15/11/2025 06:13

I'd never, ever in a million years let my 14 year old daughter wear this. I'd completely ban her from wearing it.
But that's because I would never let my DD wear a brand across her chest that's owned by a man who had a very close relationship for years with a man who was a paedophile, a rapist and a sex trafficker, who flew frequently on his private planes where girls were sexually abused, who stayed on his rape island, and whose name frequently appears on the files, and whom a sex trafficked 17 year old girl says she was forced to have sex with.
As for the style and fit of the top....whatever.
But the logo......it would be a hard no from me.
@maggie2k maybe your sister has morals in line with mine.

abracadabra1980 · 15/11/2025 06:12

Is your sister a total nurd? FGS there is nothing offensive whatsoever about this t-shirt and the fact is says VS on it it irrelevant - she'll think its really cool. Would you rather she went out in nude leggings that you can see her camel toe in? And tell your sister to get a life.

TheaBrandt1 · 15/11/2025 06:09

Is this a joke thread? It’s a grey t shirt. Yout sister would expire with a fit of the vapours if she saw what my dds and their friends wear. And shock horror many of the friends are also privately educated!

Then the crazy angry poster posting about colonialists?! Insane.

maralagagirl · 15/11/2025 06:03

ok

WellYouWereMythTaken · 15/11/2025 06:02

maralagagirl · 15/11/2025 05:48

Talking to myself obviously. Asian people are real. Buying stuff super cheap makes their lives a misery. I note nobody has even bothered to pretend they are in the right. I appreciate the lack of hypocrisy I guess.

I was answering the OP’s question about her daughter’s taste in T-shirts. Hadn’t seen your post so wasn’t ignoring you probably will now though. Maybe start your own thread? Or have a lie down.

maralagagirl · 15/11/2025 06:02

It's OK. We don't care anymore. The reason we aren't a republic is because we are so ridiculously easygoing. I plan to change that. You can keep Charles and Andy and Eugenie and Bwhatever with the stupid hat. I'm going to check if any money goes from us to you guys. If so I will run for parliament.
And you can keep your pervy billionaires too. At least we throw ours out. Stupid European countries that take anyone with money .

Fiftyandme · 15/11/2025 05:58

maralagagirl · 15/11/2025 05:52

Again ignoring me, just lke everyone else from the UK. I think it's shame

It’s a shame the world is full of people expecting everyone to hone in on them with a laser sharp focus, hanging in their every word and nodding furiously.

Don’t be so bloody ridiculous and histrionic, I’ve not even seen your post.

Lovecatssowonderfullypretty · 15/11/2025 05:53

OrwellianTimes · 14/11/2025 23:38

Hardly obscene, though I hate VS with a passion.

This

maralagagirl · 15/11/2025 05:52

Fiftyandme · 15/11/2025 05:49

Oh FGS. It’s a t-shirt. Is the lingerie ad ideal? No. Would I let my 14 year old wear it - likely no. Is it ‘obscene’? No, your sister is ridiculous

Again ignoring me, just lke everyone else from the UK. I think it's shame

maralagagirl · 15/11/2025 05:51

Talking to myself . Again. I hate to be histrionic but do you have no shame????
Obviously not.
Colonialists never change their spots apparently.

Fiftyandme · 15/11/2025 05:49

Oh FGS. It’s a t-shirt. Is the lingerie ad ideal? No. Would I let my 14 year old wear it - likely no. Is it ‘obscene’? No, your sister is ridiculous

maralagagirl · 15/11/2025 05:48

WellYouWereMythTaken · 15/11/2025 05:45

Virtually every teenage girl is obsessed with VS. Or they were a few years ago at least, when my eldest was your daughter’s age. If this is all yours wants to buy from there I’d count it as a win personally. Your sister is being weird and I’d tell her to pipe down.

Talking to myself obviously. Asian people are real. Buying stuff super cheap makes their lives a misery. I note nobody has even bothered to pretend they are in the right. I appreciate the lack of hypocrisy I guess.

justasking111 · 15/11/2025 05:48

I've been looking at tween clothing for grand daughters. Jakers it's a minefield dress wise so sexy. Their mum has the same issue. That grey teeshirt is so tame compared to a lot of stuff

Gansy · 15/11/2025 05:47

The t-shirt itself is absolutely fine. It’s a standard normal ladies t-shirt. I don’t think it’s obscene.

However the logo does change that a little - not to the point of obscenity - but with Victoria’s Secret being known generally as a sexy lingerie brand, not a general clothing brand. It’s not Ann Summers sexy, but it’s also not a standard brand like Chantelle or triumph.

I would assume the interest in wearing this logo t-shirt is to signal to others that you shop there for sexy lingerie. Do you think that is the case?

IF yes, why do think there’s any harm in your 14 year old wanting to signal that?

Springtimehere · 15/11/2025 05:45

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WellYouWereMythTaken · 15/11/2025 05:45

Virtually every teenage girl is obsessed with VS. Or they were a few years ago at least, when my eldest was your daughter’s age. If this is all yours wants to buy from there I’d count it as a win personally. Your sister is being weird and I’d tell her to pipe down.

maralagagirl · 15/11/2025 05:43

Nobody knew then where they were made. We do now. I can give you a list of documentaries about women ( it's always the women) basically slave labour, and if the place burns down , Ooopsie. If people in rich countries stopped buying stuff from Asia, and no doubt it will be Africa next, then the market would evaporate.
Do you want the list of horror or just happy to put on your cheap top?

mickandrorty · 15/11/2025 05:38

I couldn't get clenched up about this I remember girls all wearing playboy and FCUK and walking around with juicy splattered all over their backsides (which it would seem is coming back?!)

Jigglyhuffpuff · 15/11/2025 05:32

Yabu for saying "granny flip phones".

Flip phones were amazing.

Justputsomeyoghurtonit · 15/11/2025 05:27

OP, you say she is at private school? I work in a private school and believe be, this would be a modest and tasteful tshirt!

The girls often wear actual lingerie, under a puffa jacket, paired with pyjama bottoms and uggs. It's called fashion!

Also I'm 47 and buy my bras from VS they are amazing and way better fitting than M&S!

TheSeventh · 15/11/2025 05:26

Tesco sells underwear, are my carrier bags obscene? Other than the price of them now!

Maureenwasacat · 15/11/2025 05:18

Your sister is a prude.
A teenage girl has a belly button?? Alert the church elders!

TimeForATerf · 15/11/2025 05:06

To the OP, VS perfumes are great - for spraying round the loo after use. Foul stuff.

maralagagirl · 15/11/2025 04:23

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 15/11/2025 02:31

I own that shirt and it’s cute.

People need to chill.

People need to learn where their clothes are made. ( Asia - where the women are lucky to get a break to go to the loo) and the companies are owned by mostly Arab / Western billionaires. You go enjoy that victoria's secret shirt.