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Should we investigate adhd assessment or anti depressants for my ds19

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Anonymous07200408 · 14/11/2025 21:07

Some advice please from those with kids who have a spiky ND profile. What I really don’t need is the usual suspects who don’t really believe in ND weighing in with scathing remarks - there are a lot on here and I don’t need that kind of wisdom please - this is very difficult for us as a family and sensitive. I am very experienced with ND and work in the field - I know my son is ND but just need some help teasing our depression vs autistic burnout vs ADHD procrastination etc. I am posting to AIBU for traffic even if the ASN boards would probably be a more natural home for this.

my 19yr old ds got a dyspraxia diagnosis in year 3 and ever since then has had various educational and social challenges. Looking back at his report from then there seem to be loads of indications of inattentive type adhd. He had a small, tight group of friends but is very socially anxious and incredibly passive. Identified as very bright from early on - effortlessly managed straight As until his final year where he pretty much took to the sofa/buried his head in the sand and crashed out in exams. Luckily he had an unconditional offer to uni and is now nearly at the end of his first semester.

He has needed an unbelievable amount of scaffolding in every way - socially and academically and in terms of life skills. Luckily he is local so I have been in and out helping him most weeks. He literally seems unable to answer text messages/ engage fully with uni support services etc - to the point he is now very far behind academically and talking about repeating the year. He has actually done really well socially and made a small group of friends who are luckily very proactive but he has already pissed them off by not responding to WhatsApp messages. The amount he has struggled has surprised us. He presents as having a low mood and flat affect and without us chivvying him to get to lectures and friends chivvying him to go out I think he would spend most of his time doom scrolling. He reports as being “ok” and I think he’s enjoying some of the social stuff but his self esteem is on the floor and always has been.

We have now started thinking that we need to do more to help - the situation is untenable. My question is, should we be investigating a private assessment for adhd (i am very sure he has asd but can’t afford an auDHD assessment)? His procrastination, inability to start tasks, dreaming, torpor, binge eating, insane avoidance all fit with my understanding of inattentive type adhd (my other son is medicated for combined type adhd so I know a little about it).

Or should we be investigating ssris for his mood? I obviously have reservations about side effects (particularly blunting of emotions - they couldn’t be any more blunt tbh) and am not sure if he is actually depressed - he doesn’t really think he is but knows something is wrong.

thank you so much if you’ve got this far - so aibu to get him an adhd assessment with the idea of trialling meds

or ainbu if you think I should look into antidepressants?

any wisdom gratefully received - he is a gorgeous, hilariously funny, self aware, empathetic boy who is suffering at the moment 🙏🏼

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Anonymous07200408 · 25/11/2025 20:14

Ibizaonmymind · 25/11/2025 19:28

Also, I already posted giving advice early in the thread so I think your reaction was shitty and rude.

Apologies. I am feeling sensitive as I have family members gaslighting me about his symptoms. Thank you for offering advice earlier.

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 25/11/2025 19:38

Ibizaonmymind · 25/11/2025 18:46

That seems incredibly quick! How on earth did you get from your OP to assessment and diagnosis in this time?

I hope it is a reputable company and a thorough assessment as surely the information gathering alone would have taken longer.

My dd was done in 9 days. If you avoid the big chains and find an independent one they can turn it round much faster.

NearlyDec · 25/11/2025 19:34

Anonymous07200408 · 25/11/2025 18:27

Quick update for those who kindly commented on my thread. My ds got an inattentive type adhd diagnosis today. We are going to start stimulant meds in the next week or so and then if low mood doesn’t lift we will go to the gp and enquire about ssris. Thanks again everyone!

It’s great that you’ve got a plan.

Ibizaonmymind · 25/11/2025 19:28

Also, I already posted giving advice early in the thread so I think your reaction was shitty and rude.

Ibizaonmymind · 25/11/2025 19:26

Anonymous07200408 · 25/11/2025 19:21

Thanks for the concern 🙄. I have explained earlier in the thread that we are in Scotland and the company is very reputable - they diagnosed my other ds nearly 4 yrs ago and have been excellent. They have a lot of clinicians available to assess and the evidence gathering was expedited but as he is an adult they did not need any from a teacher just someone who knows him well.

it is absolutely the right diagnosis for him - he ticks every box so it was no great surprise. might have been nice to have shown a little empathy and recognise the relief of him knowing who he is rather than suggesting it’s a dodgy diagnosis.

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I was showing concern. I’m sorry if you don’t feel I was but that’s on you I’m afraid. Knowing the process as well as I do I was very surprised you managed to get it done that quickly.

I didn’t doubt the diagnosis or whether it was the right one for him, I simply queried how quickly it was done.

Anonymous07200408 · 25/11/2025 19:21

Ibizaonmymind · 25/11/2025 18:46

That seems incredibly quick! How on earth did you get from your OP to assessment and diagnosis in this time?

I hope it is a reputable company and a thorough assessment as surely the information gathering alone would have taken longer.

Thanks for the concern 🙄. I have explained earlier in the thread that we are in Scotland and the company is very reputable - they diagnosed my other ds nearly 4 yrs ago and have been excellent. They have a lot of clinicians available to assess and the evidence gathering was expedited but as he is an adult they did not need any from a teacher just someone who knows him well.

it is absolutely the right diagnosis for him - he ticks every box so it was no great surprise. might have been nice to have shown a little empathy and recognise the relief of him knowing who he is rather than suggesting it’s a dodgy diagnosis.

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Ibizaonmymind · 25/11/2025 18:46

Anonymous07200408 · 25/11/2025 18:27

Quick update for those who kindly commented on my thread. My ds got an inattentive type adhd diagnosis today. We are going to start stimulant meds in the next week or so and then if low mood doesn’t lift we will go to the gp and enquire about ssris. Thanks again everyone!

That seems incredibly quick! How on earth did you get from your OP to assessment and diagnosis in this time?

I hope it is a reputable company and a thorough assessment as surely the information gathering alone would have taken longer.

Anonymous07200408 · 25/11/2025 18:27

Quick update for those who kindly commented on my thread. My ds got an inattentive type adhd diagnosis today. We are going to start stimulant meds in the next week or so and then if low mood doesn’t lift we will go to the gp and enquire about ssris. Thanks again everyone!

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Anonymous07200408 · 18/11/2025 18:01

SheinIsShite · 18/11/2025 17:44

Also want to point out that the OP has said she is in Scotland. NICE guidelines are not a thing here. NHS Scotland is completely separate and you can never assume that just because something is policy in England/Wales/N Ireland that it applies in Scotland, and vice versa.

ive sent you a message.

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SheinIsShite · 18/11/2025 17:44

Also want to point out that the OP has said she is in Scotland. NICE guidelines are not a thing here. NHS Scotland is completely separate and you can never assume that just because something is policy in England/Wales/N Ireland that it applies in Scotland, and vice versa.

NearlyDec · 18/11/2025 17:39

Anonymous07200408 · 18/11/2025 17:23

Of course! My other son has assessed by them in 2022 and has been brilliantly supported through titration and beyond. They have a lot of practitioners working on assessments. It’s not a guaranteed diagnosis of course.

That good to hear. I know not all assessment in England are equal.

Anonymous07200408 · 18/11/2025 17:23

NearlyDec · 18/11/2025 17:00

That’s a very quick wait for an assessment. Does it meet the NICE guidelines?

Of course! My other son has assessed by them in 2022 and has been brilliantly supported through titration and beyond. They have a lot of practitioners working on assessments. It’s not a guaranteed diagnosis of course.

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Anonymous07200408 · 18/11/2025 17:22

SheinIsShite · 18/11/2025 17:02

Actually @Anonymous07200408 having read all your posts - are you actually me? Your son and mine are very similar. We are in Scotland too and the support he has had from uni has been poor. Please feel free to message me if you'd like to chat. It's tough. I get it.

I definitely will. Thank you so much for your empathetic response. Hugely appreciated. I’ll message when I get some headspace this evening - your posts are encouraging. Thank you for reaching out.

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SheinIsShite · 18/11/2025 17:02

Actually @Anonymous07200408 having read all your posts - are you actually me? Your son and mine are very similar. We are in Scotland too and the support he has had from uni has been poor. Please feel free to message me if you'd like to chat. It's tough. I get it.

NearlyDec · 18/11/2025 17:00

That’s a very quick wait for an assessment. Does it meet the NICE guidelines?

SheinIsShite · 18/11/2025 16:58

OK I haven't read the full thread but here's my 2p worth.

I have a ND son who was diagnosed as dyspraxic when he was about 16. His other issues were not causing issues at that stage. No issues with academic performance, always well-behaved and engaged with education. University was a total shitshow for him at the start as he started during Covid and due to the Scottish government's over-cautious approach, was in 4 times in his first year. Struggled through second year, failed his third year and had to take a year on suspension to get himself sorted.

It is hard to disentangle his issues and Covid certainly did not help as it stopped him making any connections whatsoever. He was very down and very low and having his last year at school and first year at uni online was a disaster for him. He saw the GP and was started on a low dose of sertraline and this has helped him considerably. It gave him back the desire and willingness to at least try with social interaction.

When he was placed into academic suspension it was clear something had to change for him to complete his degree. We had to pursue a private diagnosis for ADD (he doesn't have the hyperactive bit) and it was not cheap. It was however a proper diagnostic procedure involving a consultant psychiatrist who also works for the NHS. Our GP agreed to prescribe the medication on a shared care basis. He now takes Elvanse every morning and it has helped enormously with focus and just keeping him stable. He's now back at uni and we think he's doing OK.

So short answer - possibly both. Good luck. Ignore all the people who have probably posted telling you that he's 19 and an adult and blah blah blah.

Anonymous07200408 · 18/11/2025 16:43

Frostynoman · 18/11/2025 15:03

Well done OP. If at all possible I would wait initiating the SSRI’s until the assessment is completed. Best of luck

That’s interesting. Could you explain why? My psychiatrist friend said to start ssris and wait 6 weeks to start stimulants if prescribed.

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Frostynoman · 18/11/2025 15:03

Well done OP. If at all possible I would wait initiating the SSRI’s until the assessment is completed. Best of luck

Anonymous07200408 · 18/11/2025 12:40

Quick update. We have a private assessment for adhd on Monday and I spoke to my friend who is a psychiatrist today. He recommended starting on ssris as well and endorsed the assessment route. I’ll let you know how we get on.

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BertieBotts · 16/11/2025 16:58

Anonymous07200408 · 14/11/2025 21:41

I haven’t even checked knowing that waiting lists here are upwards of 5 years. I don’t even think they assess adults through the NHS in our local authority now.

Double check what the age cut off is, as in my old area the cut off was 25.

The whole internalised PDA description makes me think ADHD task paralysis.

BlueandWhitePorcelain · 16/11/2025 16:28

Stompythedinosaur · 16/11/2025 12:27

Go to the GP for an assessment about depression first. If he's depressed, it would impact the validity of a neuro assessment.

I think adhd is unlikely in someone who has effortlessly achieved As through most of their academic life. That implies the difficulty isn't linked to executive function. You might want to consider autism assessment instead.

DH is very bright. Admittedly, he didn’t get As through school and university, but did pass our professional exams first time (no mean feat) and did well enough to get into the top 1% of earners. He did it through applying his hyperfocus and obsessiveness to his work. I have no doubt he has ADHD (hyperactive type), and difficulties with executive functioning; but he’s learnt strategies over his adult life to circumvent them, although it’s harder work for him than the rest of us.

DrPrunesqualer · 16/11/2025 12:51

Stompythedinosaur · 16/11/2025 12:27

Go to the GP for an assessment about depression first. If he's depressed, it would impact the validity of a neuro assessment.

I think adhd is unlikely in someone who has effortlessly achieved As through most of their academic life. That implies the difficulty isn't linked to executive function. You might want to consider autism assessment instead.

My ds is studying neuroscience leading to basically brain surgery
and achieved As all his life
He has Autism and adhd

Of course you can be intelligent with these. In fact you are more likely to have a high IQ

‘ Nearly 2 percent of children aged 8 or younger have been diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder (ASD). This statistic is well documented today. What’s surprising is that half of these children also have an average or considerably above-average IQ. What’s more, at least two-thirds of people with ASD, particularly those with a high IQ, also have attention deficit disorder’

Stompythedinosaur · 16/11/2025 12:27

Go to the GP for an assessment about depression first. If he's depressed, it would impact the validity of a neuro assessment.

I think adhd is unlikely in someone who has effortlessly achieved As through most of their academic life. That implies the difficulty isn't linked to executive function. You might want to consider autism assessment instead.

DrPrunesqualer · 16/11/2025 12:21

Sk73djej · 16/11/2025 07:01

Just to add I don’t think the shared care stopping is just for adhd meds. I have children under CMHT too and one of the consultants there said they were seeing it for other meds eg anti depressants too. GPs can prescribe sertraline themselves but I’m not sure about other anti depressants so it is something to think about.

Ive just looked the Mind over Mood book up and it’s highly recommended

Have ordered so huge thanks for that recommendation and @Anonymous07200408 for starting this thread
and the heads up re gps from @Sk73djej , @SpidersAreShitheads and @RedToothBrush

🙏 it’s all so hard and hoping our children find a path that it best for them.

As an aside OP my ds is at Uni and despite the struggles that’s where he wants to be. Like you, it’s hard hearing how they struggle when you can’t be there face to face.

Sk73djej · 16/11/2025 07:01

Just to add I don’t think the shared care stopping is just for adhd meds. I have children under CMHT too and one of the consultants there said they were seeing it for other meds eg anti depressants too. GPs can prescribe sertraline themselves but I’m not sure about other anti depressants so it is something to think about.

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