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To avoid PTA raffle

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Caulifleur · 14/11/2025 14:50

We have a fabulous pta which works hard and raises loads of money.

I know there are perks of being senior PTA but at my dc primary school there is sometimes a feelings of “dividing the spoils” at the end of an event like a school fair or bbq. I always feel a bit uncomfortable and I’ve stopped helping out at clear-up.

Recently there was a lovely raffle at an event. PTA said they’d hold the draw at the end. I stayed to clear up. But they waited til everyone left then let their kids draw the winning tickets. The kids were sniggering and I realised they had each bought a ticket and hidden it in their palms so they just pulled out their own ticket, literally the top prizes were all taken by the PTA!

The pta team had their backs turned but the kids were loud and obvious and if I could tell, their mums and dads must have noticed.

I do think it’s nice to reward the pta but I think it’s a bit rich to literally take all the prizes!

aibu to spurn the raffle in future?

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EleanorPeck · 14/11/2025 18:34

Come on, you know full well it's deliberate. Either stand up and speak to the Head or continue to let them get away with it, it's up to you

AmITheLastOne · 14/11/2025 18:32

Really? And you haven’t said anything?

Caulifleur · 14/11/2025 18:30

SconehengeRevenge · 14/11/2025 18:25

A school event with no members of staff present, you say? 🤔

Well definitely no one has ever been there to make announcements or thank everyone for coming like I’ve seen at other schools. I think the governors run a stall usually but by clear up time there’s no staff around.

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Icecreamisthebest · 14/11/2025 18:28

I would not be able to not say something.

Send a letter to the head and copy in the PTA. You can make it anonymous and as if you were a parent who left early. Just say something like that you were surprised that the raffle was not drawn at the event and no results published and that this process needs to change in order to avoid the impression that it is not being carried out fairly and in accordance with the relevant rules. Add that failure to change is likely to lead to a reluctance within the school community to support both the raffles and any other fund raising events.

SconehengeRevenge · 14/11/2025 18:25

A school event with no members of staff present, you say? 🤔

SheinIsShite · 14/11/2025 18:25

Past PTA chair of several years standing and that is OUTRAGEOUS.

We used to be so worried about avoiding any accusations of favouritism or "fixing" any raffles, everything was always done in public, we used an old fashioned tumble tombola thing to draw the tickets, adults drew the prizes not children.

We never "divided the spoils" because that's not what a PTA is about! We bought tickets as other parents did and if any of us won a prize, we did so fair and square. This needs to be raised with the Chair, or the headteacher.

LoopyLooooo · 14/11/2025 18:20

Heronwatcher · 14/11/2025 17:22

This is actually potentially fraudulent. I think you should mention it, if needs be anonymously, to your head teacher. If another parent reported it to Ofsted I think they might take this quite seriously.

It's not potentially fraudulent.

If what the OP says is true, it is fraudulent.

Dollymylove · 14/11/2025 18:16

Its fraudulent, nothing more, nothing less.
I would be making a complaint to the police, never mind the head teacher!!

Arlanymor · 14/11/2025 18:12

opencecilgee · 14/11/2025 18:11

I think there’s a competition and markets authority which has strict guidelines for this type of thing

send a complaint to the head

Competition and Markets Authority is a different thing - nothing to do with gambling - it's to prevent consumers from unfair practices, such as monopolies that diminish choice.

TheatricalLife · 14/11/2025 18:11

If you don't want to name yourself, send an unsigned letter to the head. At least they will be able to keep an eye on the situation. I don't think I could keep my mouth shut about that one, and I'm usually one who very much keeps my nose out of everything. I certainly wouldn't be contributing to the raffle again.

hopspot · 14/11/2025 18:11

TeenToTwenties · 14/11/2025 17:20

If that is true it is disgraceful.
(Many years on PTA).

This. I’m horrified. I’ve been on PTAs for a long time as a child of a PTA treasurer, a staff member and a parent. It’s usually their kids missing out rather than getting any perks.

opencecilgee · 14/11/2025 18:11

I think there’s a competition and markets authority which has strict guidelines for this type of thing

send a complaint to the head

opencecilgee · 14/11/2025 18:09

fucking hell, that’s abysmal

TeenToTwenties · 14/11/2025 18:07

A less contentious way of solving this going forward would be to email the PTA chair and copy the Head / raise at the next AGM and say:

I think it is important that going forward there is more visibility over the raffle draws and the winners. My understanding is that at most schools the draw is done in public during the event and is drawn by a member of staff or random parents. Also many schools publish the names of the major prize winners. I think we should adopt this going forward as otherwise it opens the PTA up to criticism that too many committee members win prizes (which could well be the case as they may buy more tickets).

Notsurewhatisnormalanymore · 14/11/2025 18:06

So unfair. I hate it when school don’t announce the winners in the newsletter! Sometimes it’s my last couple of pounds that I’ve spent to support the school and keep my kids happy and you don’t even find out who won.

If it’s difficult to approach the PTA (I would struggle with the conflict) then I would suggest to the office staff / HT that they start publishing the winners with a nudge nudge, wink wink ‘it might help parents to see who is winning.’ kind of comment, a bit cowardly but would hopefully resolve the problem as surely they would be too embarrassed to see their names published multiple times?

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · 14/11/2025 18:03

If that's true then not only do I think badly if them but I think badly of you for keeping quiet about it. You're condoning fraud.

RJ2023 · 14/11/2025 17:59

I wouldn't describe a PTA that is involved in fraud as "fabulous".

That's a really horrible thing to do and I hope someone finds out.

nutbrownhare15 · 14/11/2025 17:45

You need to complain to the head ask to be anonymous.

nutbrownhare15 · 14/11/2025 17:44

That's awful and I'd complain to the head. They clearly can't be in charge of drawing the raffle.

clary · 14/11/2025 17:32

That's appalling. I have never heard of anything like that. I would tell the head tbh.

Agree when I was on the PTA I bent over backwards to ensure there was no bias. I also thought you meant PTA members taking home any uneaten cakes for free (which is fair enough tbh).

Your later posts suggests this happens frequently. Even if it's prizes sourced by the PTA it's immoral and illegal. Are the raffle tickets sold ahead (as in, sent home in book bags etc)? If so it's governed by the lottery commission and answerable to it. You MUST tell the HT.

Heronwatcher · 14/11/2025 17:24

At the very least I’d be telling the PTA that this year they simply must have the names and pictures of the winners with their amazing hampers in the school newsletter so everyone can see and buy prizes for the next event…

Heronwatcher · 14/11/2025 17:22

This is actually potentially fraudulent. I think you should mention it, if needs be anonymously, to your head teacher. If another parent reported it to Ofsted I think they might take this quite seriously.

TeenToTwenties · 14/11/2025 17:20

If that is true it is disgraceful.
(Many years on PTA).

LoopyLooooo · 14/11/2025 17:17

YABU to not have told them exactly what you saw, and to let them know they'd better start drawing the raffle AT the event like most places do.

That's disgusting behaviour on their part but I feel as though you're complicit if you don't speak up.

That's the important thing here, not whether you personally buy a ticket or not 🙄

Caulifleur · 14/11/2025 17:15

Bushmillsbabe · 14/11/2025 14:54

That's terrible. When you said dividing the spoils I initially thought you meant taking home leftover food, drinks etc. Taking all the raffle prizes is wrong, and actually illegal as its against gambling licensing laws. Surely someone has questioned this?

Incredibly, no. There is no announcing the winners in the school newsletter and the HT and Governors don’t usually attend these events , so there is no oversight. For a variety of reasons most of the events are chaotic and so no one ever really notices that the raffles just sort of disappear.

On one occasion it was prizes the PTA worked incredibly hard to source so I forgave that. But the other occasion was a series of “gift hampers” where they asked people to donate little treats like chocolate or olives, and they made up hampers. So the prizes were actually donated by parents! I thought that was especially cheeky to take those.

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