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To have told NDN that dh won’t be helping her anymore?

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Babycarrierdilemma · 13/11/2025 20:55

NDN has a young baby. We live on the second floor and she has been knocking or messaging every day wanting dh to help her up and down the stairs with the pram.

She has asked twice for a lift to an appointment next week as said she couldn’t manage the train alone. I told her that he can’t take her and she should sort out a taxi to which she said she cant manage car seat / pram and baby alone.

I had 2 carriers from when dc were little so I took them round and gave them to her said I didn’t have instructions but I was happy to show her or could send her the link to YouTube for each one. I said to her that we can’t help her anymore as it’s really getting too much. It literally is as I’m fed up of the daily requests and it’s almost like learned helplessness?

She messaged dh that evening upset and he’s told me I’ve been really unkind ??? It’s caused an argument and I’ve had to say it’s now a deal breaker if he continues to let her disrupt our lives this way?

OP posts:
nomas · 15/11/2025 10:27

She’s either a user or after a replacement baby daddy.

tattychicken · 15/11/2025 10:25

I'd explain that he's not actually helping her in the long run. She needs to learn to be able to manage independently. As PPs have said, it's not easy managing with buggies and babies and stairs, but she needs to work out a method that works for her. She will encounter stairs all over the place in everyday life. At train stations and shops and out walking. She can't have your DH with her all the time, and even if she had a partner she would need to manage on her own day to day. By doing this for her he is actually preventing her developing this independence, so for her sake (as well as yours!) he needs to step back.

If she is suffering from PND or anxiety, she needs to get appropriate support and treatment from her GP/Midwife/Health Visitor.

TheQuirkyMaker · 15/11/2025 10:25

CurlewKate · 15/11/2025 10:04

Apart from anything else-do people really live in relationships with men who can’t be trusted in the company of another woman? Even if the woman is -and there is no suggestion than the NDN is-a bit flirtatious? Isn’t that exhausting?

Do all women think they live with men who can't be trusted not to have sex with anyone they can when they can?
Do you need to keep a eye on them when they go to the toilet in a pub? When they go to work, do their wives think they are secretly going to an orgy?
What a sad world!

GAJLY · 15/11/2025 10:24

TheQuirkyMaker · 15/11/2025 09:10

Why SHOULD it end? Life can be hard, we are all in this together. If it costs little effort to help someone, why not help them? I think this thread is about something other than just helping a neighbor.

I think helpful in terms of occasionally knocking for one off things is being neighbourly. My husband does our elderly neighbour's garden when he is doing ours. I have sorted her bin whenever it's blown over and brought them back in, (until the council started doing it). She knocks in an emergency and we do what we can. She's asked us to be present when someone was trying to sell her something. All those things are fine and agreeable to me, because she is not capable and it's occasional. I would not be happy being interrupted daily while wfh, to do things that I have done myself! There are better coping strategies she could learn and save these knocks for better occaional things like putting together something.

pawsatively · 15/11/2025 10:12

TheQuirkyMaker · 15/11/2025 09:10

Why SHOULD it end? Life can be hard, we are all in this together. If it costs little effort to help someone, why not help them? I think this thread is about something other than just helping a neighbor.

Because his wife is uncomfortable with his developing relationship with this woman! He has overstepped his wife’s boundaries! Not to mention this spiteful madam messaging him behind his wife’s back slagging her off! If life is so hard for the NDN, she can access support from her midwife, GP, health visitor, family and friends. Not overstepping boundaries with her neighbours, who are uncomfortable with this level of contact. Don’t let that get in the way of your narrative though.

CurlewKate · 15/11/2025 10:04

Apart from anything else-do people really live in relationships with men who can’t be trusted in the company of another woman? Even if the woman is -and there is no suggestion than the NDN is-a bit flirtatious? Isn’t that exhausting?

MeetMyCat · 15/11/2025 09:57

KiwiFall · 14/11/2025 23:04

I think it has gone beyond that now. She is interrupting their relationship by wanting OP’s husband to be at her beck and call. Then to go behind OP’s back to complain about her to her husband, she is purposely trying to drive a wedge between them. Whether the motive is to keep him running around for her all day every day or whether she has more ulterior motives isn’t known yet. The husband is blind and stupid for failing to see the potential harm this could do to his marriage. It’s not a neighbour asking for a bit of help every now and then. If she couldn’t manage living there as a single mother she shouldn’t have moved into that flat.

Absolutely this

Daleksatemyshed · 15/11/2025 09:55

His reaction tells a story, he wasn't sad that his DW didn't want him to help, he was sulky and unpleasant. Helping the NDN out gives his self esteem a boost so he can't see that she's becoming a nuisance. It's one thing to help out now and then but the NDN is looking for help everyday and is becoming dependant on him, that's too far. If she sees him as a Father figure how long before she's asking for babysitting or money.

LovelyUser · 15/11/2025 09:55

@CurlewKate It doesn't start out with the man wanting to fuck the neighbour. The man gets a buzz out of helping the helpless young woman. He's the hero. He feels wanted.

The NDN has already tried to make OP look mean. OP's DH sulked about ut.

AngelicKaty · 15/11/2025 09:52

TheQuirkyMaker · 15/11/2025 09:33

EVERYONE likes young attractive people! Hollywood films, daily soaps, adverts, etc. are full of nice-looking people. It's just normal, fgs! Would Eastenders, Emmerdale or Corrie be so popular if the cast all had to be over over the age of 65 years? We can't just banish nice looking people, and our lives would be impoverished if we could.

You deliberately missed @clinellwipe 's point, which was about OP's DH's motivation. Would he be helping the NDN if they weren't young and attractive? Would he be prepared to offer the same amount of daily support to a 75yr old woman - or man? Only OP can know this.

Covacsy · 15/11/2025 09:51

NDN was pushing her luck, and went a bit too far. She should have backed right off, instead she inserted herself into OP's marriage.

She's either very manipulative or very stupid. Time will tell.

TheQuirkyMaker · 15/11/2025 09:48

VarioPerfect · 15/11/2025 09:42

What’s your point though? So she’s young and pretty so OP’s DH should be helping her?

The exact opposite- just because she has those attributes he shouldn't be admonished for being helpful.

AngelicKaty · 15/11/2025 09:45

TheQuirkyMaker · 15/11/2025 09:10

Why SHOULD it end? Life can be hard, we are all in this together. If it costs little effort to help someone, why not help them? I think this thread is about something other than just helping a neighbor.

"Why SHOULD it end"? Because the NDN has totally overstepped all normal social boundaries. Crying to OP's DH because, she claims, OP has been "unkind"? That is not a neighbourly relationship - that is something more.
I have great relationships with all my neighbours - we wave when we see each other from a distance, stop for a quick chat if we bump into each other, occasionally put each others' bins out when one is away on holiday, occasionally take parcels in for each other - exactly what any normal person would expect of a neighbourly relationship. OP's NDN's expectation of a neighbourly relationship is not normal - it's excessive - and I don't believe you would tolerate it if it were happening to you in real life.

VarioPerfect · 15/11/2025 09:42

TheQuirkyMaker · 15/11/2025 09:33

EVERYONE likes young attractive people! Hollywood films, daily soaps, adverts, etc. are full of nice-looking people. It's just normal, fgs! Would Eastenders, Emmerdale or Corrie be so popular if the cast all had to be over over the age of 65 years? We can't just banish nice looking people, and our lives would be impoverished if we could.

What’s your point though? So she’s young and pretty so OP’s DH should be helping her?

TheQuirkyMaker · 15/11/2025 09:33

clinellwipe · 15/11/2025 09:17

Someone may have said similar so apologies if it’s already been said - but would he be texting and going out of his way to help an older lady (who is still physically able, lets say a healthy 75 year old) with going up and down stairs with bags, driving to appointments. If he would genuinely do that for an elderly woman or a man that is asking for help then he sounds like a truly lovely man (even if a tad annoying!). But I imagine her being a young pretty woman is a HUGE part of this.

EVERYONE likes young attractive people! Hollywood films, daily soaps, adverts, etc. are full of nice-looking people. It's just normal, fgs! Would Eastenders, Emmerdale or Corrie be so popular if the cast all had to be over over the age of 65 years? We can't just banish nice looking people, and our lives would be impoverished if we could.

AngelicKaty · 15/11/2025 09:25

AbbeyGrange · 15/11/2025 09:08

And the OP had kindly given the NDN baby slings, so why doesn't she use those just like the OP did?

I agree, she should. I simply answered the OP's question factually because I didn't realise, at the time, that it was rhetorical.

Rubyrooladyofpoo · 15/11/2025 09:23

AngelicKaty · 15/11/2025 09:21

I don't disagree with you. I was just answering your question which, at the time, I didn't realise was rhetorical.
The NDN needs to become self-sufficient and stop trying to come between OP and her DH.

Ah apologies, you weren't the original posted I quoted!

It's strange isn't it? you'd think if he was fine with his own wife doing all that without help he wouldn't feel the need to be on call for this woman 24/7

AngelicKaty · 15/11/2025 09:21

Rubyrooladyofpoo · 15/11/2025 09:15

So it's perfectly doable then? he wasnt worried about OP doing it for his kids even though she was in exactly the same situation, he just expected her to get on with it using a sling.

So why does that not apply to the neighbour?

I don't disagree with you. I was just answering your question which, at the time, I didn't realise was rhetorical.
The NDN needs to become self-sufficient and stop trying to come between OP and her DH.

WeepingAngelInTheTardis · 15/11/2025 09:21

Definitely something going on between them, not saying they are shagging but something isnt right from your updates.

Wingingit11 · 15/11/2025 09:20

OP from your morning update, it seems like you really need to sit with DH and talk this over. It sounds like he thinks this has shown you in a poor light and hopefully thats all there is to it. “Banning” him from helping is not going to end well but obviously you have feelings that he should take reasonable account of too.

AngelicKaty · 15/11/2025 09:19

Babycarrierdilemma · 15/11/2025 09:05

I can’t be sure obviously but I’m also not sure I want to cross that line by checking his phone. It all just feels a bit uneasy here.

No, I wouldn't check his phone either OP, but I would be asking him what the matter is - and not letting him get away with fobbing you off.
If he honestly can't see how her crying to him behind your back (trying to come between you), calling you unkind, him defending her to you, instead of defending you to her, and sulking shows that there is something going on, then he's being a disingenuous dick. They may not be having an affair, but there does seem to be some sort of emotional attachment between them which could lead to a physical one. Your DH needs to be reminded of where his responsibilities lie - with you and the children he helped create. In short, he needs to grow the fuck up, remember he's a husband and father, and his family should be his priority.

Sugargliderwombat · 15/11/2025 09:19

OP did he worry about you when you were having to do the stairs alone? Checking up on you and being very nurturing? If he wasn't it seems very odd he's so worried about her, when it's something you did yourself for months!

clinellwipe · 15/11/2025 09:17

Someone may have said similar so apologies if it’s already been said - but would he be texting and going out of his way to help an older lady (who is still physically able, lets say a healthy 75 year old) with going up and down stairs with bags, driving to appointments. If he would genuinely do that for an elderly woman or a man that is asking for help then he sounds like a truly lovely man (even if a tad annoying!). But I imagine her being a young pretty woman is a HUGE part of this.

Rubyrooladyofpoo · 15/11/2025 09:15

AngelicKaty · 15/11/2025 09:02

Because when OP's children were babies her DH was working in the office full-time.

So it's perfectly doable then? he wasnt worried about OP doing it for his kids even though she was in exactly the same situation, he just expected her to get on with it using a sling.

So why does that not apply to the neighbour?

3luckystars · 15/11/2025 09:14

There is definitely something going on. I hope someone more knowledgeable than me can advise you what to do next. Don’t doubt your instincts here, if you feel he is pining for her now after what you did, something is definitely going on between them.