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To have told NDN that dh won’t be helping her anymore?

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Babycarrierdilemma · 13/11/2025 20:55

NDN has a young baby. We live on the second floor and she has been knocking or messaging every day wanting dh to help her up and down the stairs with the pram.

She has asked twice for a lift to an appointment next week as said she couldn’t manage the train alone. I told her that he can’t take her and she should sort out a taxi to which she said she cant manage car seat / pram and baby alone.

I had 2 carriers from when dc were little so I took them round and gave them to her said I didn’t have instructions but I was happy to show her or could send her the link to YouTube for each one. I said to her that we can’t help her anymore as it’s really getting too much. It literally is as I’m fed up of the daily requests and it’s almost like learned helplessness?

She messaged dh that evening upset and he’s told me I’ve been really unkind ??? It’s caused an argument and I’ve had to say it’s now a deal breaker if he continues to let her disrupt our lives this way?

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LittleBitofBread · 15/11/2025 14:28

CurlewKate · 15/11/2025 14:25

I may have missed it-but has the OP used the term “multiple”? I say 10 minutes because I am assuming once down and once up. And yes, I would be happy to do that or for my dp to do that. And we have established that she didn’t bad mouth the OP. She said she was upset-it was the OP who said he thought the OP was being mean.

And we have established that she didn’t bad mouth the OP

The OP mentions 'the message where she said she didn’t know how to say and didn’t want to say but she has cried all afternoon and is stressed after my visit and that I wasn’t kind'

Freeme31 · 15/11/2025 14:26

If you want to save your marriage looking at phone is not crossing a line, it’s about you feeling safe with in your marriage after a total stranger crossed the line. No need to be a cool wife she’s over stepping not you

CurlewKate · 15/11/2025 14:25

AbbeyGrange · 15/11/2025 14:12

Are you being deliberately obtuse on this thread? If it was 10 minutes once a week then it would probably be ok, 10 minures every day would be annoying, except it's not, it's multiple times a day, that would fuck anyone off...

I may have missed it-but has the OP used the term “multiple”? I say 10 minutes because I am assuming once down and once up. And yes, I would be happy to do that or for my dp to do that. And we have established that she didn’t bad mouth the OP. She said she was upset-it was the OP who said he thought the OP was being mean.

AbbeyGrange · 15/11/2025 14:13

LovelyUser · 15/11/2025 14:08

@CurlewKate , are you this obtuse in real life?

Cross post!

AbbeyGrange · 15/11/2025 14:12

CurlewKate · 15/11/2025 14:04

The “interupt time with your partner” thing is particularly insane. We can live without each other for 10 minutes!

Are you being deliberately obtuse on this thread? If it was 10 minutes once a week then it would probably be ok, 10 minures every day would be annoying, except it's not, it's multiple times a day, that would fuck anyone off...

LovelyUser · 15/11/2025 14:08

@CurlewKate , are you this obtuse in real life?

CurlewKate · 15/11/2025 14:04

alpineglory · 15/11/2025 13:19

Do they ring you up whilst you are at work during the day asking for unplanned lifts too and unplanned favours?
Do they interrupt your time with your partner asking you for favours you havent previously agreed?
Do they send your partner texts slagging you off?

If not then your analogy doesn't remotely apply.

The “interupt time with your partner” thing is particularly insane. We can live without each other for 10 minutes!

lostintranslation148 · 15/11/2025 13:49

Worrying that he seems more concerned about her feeling than he is about yours OP.

Hoipers · 15/11/2025 13:48

He's been cool with you and she felt so entitled and comfortable with him, she felt she could bitch about you?

I hope you get how absolutely unbelievable that is from a new neighbour.

I find it hard to believe he has not become smitten with her, and she knows it.

I would be so wary.

Nofilter · 15/11/2025 13:38

Have you asked him if she’s contacted him again? How do you know he’s on board with not communicating?

LovelyUser · 15/11/2025 13:29

alpineglory · 15/11/2025 13:19

Do they ring you up whilst you are at work during the day asking for unplanned lifts too and unplanned favours?
Do they interrupt your time with your partner asking you for favours you havent previously agreed?
Do they send your partner texts slagging you off?

If not then your analogy doesn't remotely apply.

Hear, hear.

HorrorPudding · 15/11/2025 13:25

@JudgeJ though OP said in an early post that if the NDN can’t get a response from DH she messages OP to get her to chase him so that does qualify a “we can’t help quite as much” from OP.

It’s good to help others of course but there are limits and DH needs to be aware that his [presumably innocent] unlimited kindness could backfire on him IF she is manipulative and decides his enthusiasm for helping her can be relabelled as “the creep who is constantly badgering me”.

LunaMay · 15/11/2025 13:20

CurlewKate · 15/11/2025 13:16

I do a taxi run to Church every Sunday (despite not going to church myself) If my dp tried to stop me, I’d be pretty damn sulky too!

Hardly the same thing is it. Typical Mumsnet full of 'cool wife' BS. No-one would be comfortable with this situation and the H reactions in the real world

alpineglory · 15/11/2025 13:19

CurlewKate · 15/11/2025 13:16

I do a taxi run to Church every Sunday (despite not going to church myself) If my dp tried to stop me, I’d be pretty damn sulky too!

Do they ring you up whilst you are at work during the day asking for unplanned lifts too and unplanned favours?
Do they interrupt your time with your partner asking you for favours you havent previously agreed?
Do they send your partner texts slagging you off?

If not then your analogy doesn't remotely apply.

CurlewKate · 15/11/2025 13:16

MinnieMountain · 15/11/2025 12:48

It’s your DH’s sulking when asked to stop that’s the worry.

When I met DH he had an old school friend who treated him a bit like a boyfriend on nights out. It came to a head just before we got married when she got drunk and admitted she fancied him. DH’s reaction was to tell her that she needed to stop it or they could no longer be friends. I have no doubt that he would have followed through on that if necessary.

I do a taxi run to Church every Sunday (despite not going to church myself) If my dp tried to stop me, I’d be pretty damn sulky too!

Millytante · 15/11/2025 13:14

AbbeyGrange · 15/11/2025 11:38

This is exactly how I see it...

Yes. The mixture of his obliviousness, this neighbour’s very alarming sense of entitlement, and her immediate nasty retaliation when thwarted, make me foresee pretty dramatic trouble ahead.

YouChair · 15/11/2025 13:07

Given that DH gave out OPs phone number to NDN rather than OP deciding to do it herself, worth considering whether being involved in the other's social relationships is just the dynamic in this couple.

JudgeJ · 15/11/2025 12:59

CurlewKate · 15/11/2025 10:04

Apart from anything else-do people really live in relationships with men who can’t be trusted in the company of another woman? Even if the woman is -and there is no suggestion than the NDN is-a bit flirtatious? Isn’t that exhausting?

Also, why do women think they can makes decisions for their husbands/partner based on her own prejudices? I'm not saying he should be helping so much but having his mummy-wife telling the neighbour he won't be helping is embarrassing.

MinnieMountain · 15/11/2025 12:48

It’s your DH’s sulking when asked to stop that’s the worry.

When I met DH he had an old school friend who treated him a bit like a boyfriend on nights out. It came to a head just before we got married when she got drunk and admitted she fancied him. DH’s reaction was to tell her that she needed to stop it or they could no longer be friends. I have no doubt that he would have followed through on that if necessary.

hoxtonbabe · 15/11/2025 12:42

mamagogo1 · 15/11/2025 11:11

She sounds like she isn’t coping, she needs to seek proper help rather than relying on you. She’s also being ridiculous saying she can’t manage on public transport or stairs - I had 2 dc in a flat before the days of flat entry buses and didn’t drive, i went out all the time.

Same here. I left home at 18, had my son at 22, lived in a Victorian conversion on the second floor (so you know it had many steps and the hallway was narrow) and I just had to get on with it. This was also back in the days where the busses were not pram friendly and lifts were a rarity.

This neighbor just seems lazy, taking the piss, and just wants an easier time of it rather than her actually struggling with motherhood in general or struggling with the pram due to a physical disability ,etc.

My 17 year old ( who is almost 18) can be like this. He will always opt for the easy route/try to have it handed to him on a plate even if that means inconveniencing others before trying things for himself, and each time I lay into him about this because if I keeled over tomorrow, then what?!?

That said, neighbor can ask all she likes, if partner can’t see what she is doing is ridiculous and going to him complaining about his wife is unacceptable then he actually needs binning.

G5000 · 15/11/2025 12:40

I'm sure most people help their neighbours occasionally. But I do not believe people stating they would not mind at all if they had to do everyday tasks for someone else several times per day, every day. Healthy young woman cannot carry her groceries up the stairs?

LovelyUser · 15/11/2025 12:35

I agree .

If this was 75 -yr old Pauline or Graham asking the DH, they'd have been fobbed off weeks ago.

Daytimetellyqueen · 15/11/2025 12:29

I agree @Goldshelfie

Goldshelfie · 15/11/2025 12:28

The thing is that it’s not about no trust in the DH, the fact is that affairs can creep up on people, and spending time with someone can bring feelings and cause an affair when there was never any intent at the beginning. Getting to know people can cause an attraction to flourish, so that’s why we have boundaries.

It’s not as black and white as saying well if I don’t trust my DH with another woman then we should divorce. I am sure that my DH is fully committed to our relationship, but I wouldn’t like him spending a lot of one on one time with another woman even if it started off as purely innocent, because that’s when feelings can begin even when there was no bad intent at the start.

LovelyUser · 15/11/2025 12:28

CurlewKate · 15/11/2025 11:32

It is exactly that.

@CurlewKate , It really isn't.

she has been knocking or messaging every day wanting dh to help her up and down the stairs with the pram.
Someone else's DH.

She has asked twice for a lift to an appointment next week
Not taking No for an answer.
She messaged dh that evening upset and he’s told me I’ve been really unkind ??? It’s caused an argument ..
Coming between OP and DH, and DH is siding with NDN.

It's gone far beyond asking for occasional help and into Cheeky Fuckery.

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