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To have told NDN that dh won’t be helping her anymore?

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Babycarrierdilemma · 13/11/2025 20:55

NDN has a young baby. We live on the second floor and she has been knocking or messaging every day wanting dh to help her up and down the stairs with the pram.

She has asked twice for a lift to an appointment next week as said she couldn’t manage the train alone. I told her that he can’t take her and she should sort out a taxi to which she said she cant manage car seat / pram and baby alone.

I had 2 carriers from when dc were little so I took them round and gave them to her said I didn’t have instructions but I was happy to show her or could send her the link to YouTube for each one. I said to her that we can’t help her anymore as it’s really getting too much. It literally is as I’m fed up of the daily requests and it’s almost like learned helplessness?

She messaged dh that evening upset and he’s told me I’ve been really unkind ??? It’s caused an argument and I’ve had to say it’s now a deal breaker if he continues to let her disrupt our lives this way?

OP posts:
pawsatively · 14/11/2025 11:53

plumlipstick · 14/11/2025 11:49

Exactly! - women get post partum depression due to hormonal/chemical imbalances after birth. Women can get PPD even when they have an entire extended family to help them and lots of people around them who love them. Or, is that poster suggesting its entirely the OP's fault this woman has depression (self diagnosed of course by them, a person online who doesnt even know her)

Edited

Absolutely agree with all you’ve said. Horrified that poster so ignorantly thinks women get PPD because their neighbours don’t want to carry their shopping for them.

wantam · 14/11/2025 11:52

Notatallanamechange · 14/11/2025 11:51

Jesus wept. Imagine a men saying to do this to watch their wives because they bloody helped someone.

From little acorns do big oaks grow m'dear. It's not just helping in an emergency is it.

WeepingAngelInTheTardis · 14/11/2025 11:52

Babycarrierdilemma · 14/11/2025 11:48

We had a chat this morning as last night dh just wasn’t wanting to speak to me at all. He’s said that he can see my point of view and if it’s a deal breaker then fair enough he was just trying to be helpful and told me I should have been proud of that. I said I am to a certain extent but it’s become a burden to us ? We’ve agreed that we won’t respond to requests for help anymore from her (unless obviously some kind of actual emergency).

Well done. Hopefully in a week or two she will start using the baby slings you gave her. It will do her the world of good, she needs to learn how to cope on her own.

Notatallanamechange · 14/11/2025 11:51

wantam · 14/11/2025 11:49

Be a Miss Marple here.

If you don't have one, get a ring doorbell, to check on her approaches to your door when you are not there.

Block her number from your phone. But check DH phone for her messages AND his replies. ( yep, that's a bit mean, but needs must sometimes!)

No point in thinking something's going on, get proof that it is or isn't. Worth it rather than it going over and over in your head I'd say.

Help in emergency only.

I'd want to kill her and DH TBH.

(edit missed your latest post, I see things have moved on somewhat after your chat with DH, but I'd still keep an eye out 😉)

Edited

Jesus wept. Imagine a men saying to do this to watch their wives because they bloody helped someone.

Notatallanamechange · 14/11/2025 11:49

calamarisandwich · 14/11/2025 10:16

When the husband has clearly told her to ask for help when she needs it

Disingenuous. Helping a neighbour out is not the same as an expectation that it will be many times a day whilst he is meant to be working.

He seems happy with it. So OP needs to sort her shit communication with her husband, and not barrel on round and give a totally different message to the woman, who is only asking for help because the husband has encouraged it.

plumlipstick · 14/11/2025 11:49

pawsatively · 14/11/2025 11:47

This is not at all why women have post partum depression. What a stupidly ignorant thing to say!

Exactly! - women get post partum depression due to hormonal/chemical imbalances after birth. Women can get PPD even when they have an entire extended family to help them and lots of people around them who love them. Or, is that poster suggesting its entirely the OP's fault this woman has depression (self diagnosed of course by them, a person online who doesnt even know her)

wantam · 14/11/2025 11:49

Be a Miss Marple here.

If you don't have one, get a ring doorbell, to check on her approaches to your door when you are not there.

Block her number from your phone. But check DH phone for her messages AND his replies. ( yep, that's a bit mean, but needs must sometimes!)

No point in thinking something's going on, get proof that it is or isn't. Worth it rather than it going over and over in your head I'd say.

Help in emergency only.

I'd want to kill her and DH TBH.

(edit missed your latest post, I see things have moved on somewhat after your chat with DH, but I'd still keep an eye out 😉)

CurlewKate · 14/11/2025 11:48

ginasevern · 14/11/2025 11:34

@Notatallanamechange "Some women on mumsnet really are
utterly obsessed with everyone being out to steal their man, and everything being a sign of it."

So you'd be absolutely cool with a neighbour asking your DH every single day (sometimes twice a day) to help her carry shopping, give her lifts, help with the pram etc etc? She's young, fit and pretty - not old and disabled. And she's also messaging him, and only him, and complaining about his wife. Regardless of whether she's trying to steal the man or not, I personally don't know anyone who wouldn't be a teeny bit irritated (or more realistically fucked right off) by this level of intrusion.

Yes I would be absolutely cool with that. I would find it incredibly unattractive if my dp wasn’t prepared to help a neighbour with a young baby living on the 3rd floor. Mind you, I’m also certain that my dp would not seize the opportunity,in the 5 minutes it would take him to carry the pram upstairs, to have a quick shag.

Babycarrierdilemma · 14/11/2025 11:48

We had a chat this morning as last night dh just wasn’t wanting to speak to me at all. He’s said that he can see my point of view and if it’s a deal breaker then fair enough he was just trying to be helpful and told me I should have been proud of that. I said I am to a certain extent but it’s become a burden to us ? We’ve agreed that we won’t respond to requests for help anymore from her (unless obviously some kind of actual emergency).

OP posts:
VarioPerfect · 14/11/2025 11:47

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 14/11/2025 11:40

I think I'd go round, with DH and sit down with neighbour and explain. DH is there too, to listen to both points of view; he might take it more seriously you explaining that it is impacting your time together and her reaction might be more telling if he is actually there. If he is very obviously siding with neighbour against his wife who is sitting right there telling them both that it's making her unhappy, and neighbour can sit and listen to it and still say 'yeah, but what about ME' without any indication that she has sympathy and understanding... Well, it might not sort out the issue but it might make OP see her DH in a new light.

I think this would be totally inappropriate - she’s a random neighbour that they’ve known a matter of weeks - she doesn’t get an equal say with OP on what OP’s DH does, she has no right to be treated like she’s worthy of input in their marriage, her “point of view” is completely irrelevant here.

OP needs to speak to her DH, explain that it’s not appropriate, and then DH needs to tell the neighbour to stop bothering them. End of.

pawsatively · 14/11/2025 11:47

waterrat · 14/11/2025 11:26

Trhis is honestly why we have a MH crisis in this country.

A woman completely on her own!! with a tiny baby - has found a friendly neighbour and there is nuts talk of her stealing a man and people saying 'be HARD on this' . this is why people have post partum depression

This is not at all why women have post partum depression. What a stupidly ignorant thing to say!

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 14/11/2025 11:40

I think I'd go round, with DH and sit down with neighbour and explain. DH is there too, to listen to both points of view; he might take it more seriously you explaining that it is impacting your time together and her reaction might be more telling if he is actually there. If he is very obviously siding with neighbour against his wife who is sitting right there telling them both that it's making her unhappy, and neighbour can sit and listen to it and still say 'yeah, but what about ME' without any indication that she has sympathy and understanding... Well, it might not sort out the issue but it might make OP see her DH in a new light.

Millytante · 14/11/2025 11:40

HorrorPudding · 14/11/2025 10:40

Agree @BellesAndGraces he is putting himself in a precarious position. If she is prepared to complain about OP then that shows a manipulative streak. What if this gets to the point where he jumps every time and when he doesn’t she makes an allegation about him? “He insisted on helping me all the time. I felt uncomfortable refusing and now he’s assaulted me Officer”. That may sound like a catastrophizing idea but it happens. Helping to a point is fine but he needs to be unavailable sometimes and he needs to say “no’ as a matter of principle on a regular basis. I think he’s a sitting duck right now.

I think this is wise advice. The problem isn’t helping another woman in need of a bit of support at all, but that this woman is looking increasingly like a serious liability all round.
(A top floor flat was really a barking mad choice for her, unless she had already presumed on 24/7 help and an emotional crutch being available, which is pretty mindboggling of her)

She surely has access to assistance from some part of the health service, a GP at the very least if the birth has discombobulated her, but continued fetching and carrying like this isn’t a good idea when the person is already very emotionally manipulative where you two are concerned.

I think OP is absolutely right to want this to end right now, and it’s not about possessiveness or being mean-spirited. The neighbour has already created an unsettling atmosphere, and I’d say safety, on one plane or other, is a concern now, and they are walking straight into trouble.

TheLemonLemur · 14/11/2025 11:39

The neighbour wanting help shouldn't be an issue but its become one because you are now arguing over it. At the end of the day she needs to learn to cope - while it might only be a short stage for pram etc where will it end once baby is a toddler will she become so dependent on your dh that she asks him to look after the child? Household jobs, diy etc I also wouldn't be happy that when hes busy and not replying she's bothering you why did he give her your number!

MeetMyCat · 14/11/2025 11:36

Hoipers · 14/11/2025 11:29

She's already triangulated them by complaining to her husband about her, creating an us and you scenario.
Unbelievable.
Highly manipulative.

This. The neighbour has already crossed a line by doing this. She's not as helpless as she makes out. And let's face it, if the neighbour was 92yr old Bert, then I doubt the DH would be so keen to help.

ginasevern · 14/11/2025 11:34

@Notatallanamechange "Some women on mumsnet really are
utterly obsessed with everyone being out to steal their man, and everything being a sign of it."

So you'd be absolutely cool with a neighbour asking your DH every single day (sometimes twice a day) to help her carry shopping, give her lifts, help with the pram etc etc? She's young, fit and pretty - not old and disabled. And she's also messaging him, and only him, and complaining about his wife. Regardless of whether she's trying to steal the man or not, I personally don't know anyone who wouldn't be a teeny bit irritated (or more realistically fucked right off) by this level of intrusion.

jeaux90 · 14/11/2025 11:31

waterrat · 14/11/2025 11:26

Trhis is honestly why we have a MH crisis in this country.

A woman completely on her own!! with a tiny baby - has found a friendly neighbour and there is nuts talk of her stealing a man and people saying 'be HARD on this' . this is why people have post partum depression

Agree. Some of the posts on here are so depressing. This woman is struggling. She definitely doesn’t need OPs DH caping for her but she does need some advice to get her to be more independent. I despise this competition some women set up in their heads about this woman stealing OPs DH.

Hoipers · 14/11/2025 11:29

She's already triangulated them by complaining to her husband about her, creating an us and you scenario.
Unbelievable.
Highly manipulative.

waterrat · 14/11/2025 11:26

Trhis is honestly why we have a MH crisis in this country.

A woman completely on her own!! with a tiny baby - has found a friendly neighbour and there is nuts talk of her stealing a man and people saying 'be HARD on this' . this is why people have post partum depression

waterrat · 14/11/2025 11:25

so she is completely alone with a newborn?

I do think your attitude is a bit on the mean side!!

Could you check in with her have a cup of tea and get to know her?

LlamaNoDrama · 14/11/2025 11:06

I'd leave him to it. When he has to do it all because you're not doing any he'll soon realise.

HorrorPudding · 14/11/2025 10:40

BellesAndGraces · 13/11/2025 21:44

I don’t think the problem here is that your DH is being a “doormat” at all. What would worry me is that he’s putting himself in a really precarious position with a young woman who is clearly leaning on him in a way that goes far beyond neighbourly help.

Daily requests, lifts, emotional upset when he can’t do something, messaging him directly rather than dealing with you - she’s positioning him as the only man she can rely on and while he might enjoy being her white knight, it’s not fair on you or your relationship.

My response to the accusation that you’re being uncaring would be “I can’t believe I’m with someone who can’t see a walking red flag”.

She needs proper support in place, not a married neighbour becoming her default rescuer, no matter how much your DH might like it!

Did your DH respond to her message?

Agree @BellesAndGraces he is putting himself in a precarious position. If she is prepared to complain about OP then that shows a manipulative streak. What if this gets to the point where he jumps every time and when he doesn’t she makes an allegation about him? “He insisted on helping me all the time. I felt uncomfortable refusing and now he’s assaulted me Officer”. That may sound like a catastrophizing idea but it happens. Helping to a point is fine but he needs to be unavailable sometimes and he needs to say “no’ as a matter of principle on a regular basis. I think he’s a sitting duck right now.

CurlewKate · 14/11/2025 10:30

Switcher · 14/11/2025 10:24

It's really worrying and a massive red flag. I'm actually not sure what I'd do at this point, because the OP is now in a really awkward situation of looking like the bad guy, thus driving the narrative the DH is obviously lapping up and which is giving him quite the dopamine hit of him being the hero. Could really escalate. I think I'd tell my husband that this risks their relationship and tell him it's his choice if he'd rather be with someone else. I would say the NDN is pretty unstable, but clearly the DH is blinded.

She looks like the bad guy because she IS the bad guy!

Switcher · 14/11/2025 10:24

3luckystars · 14/11/2025 10:01

The absolute CHEEK of her texting your husband. I would go absolutely livid at this tactic. You need to cut her off completely and look after your own house. Have absolutely nothing more to do with her. Give her the details of the Public Health Nurse and ignore her. Sneaky snake.

It's really worrying and a massive red flag. I'm actually not sure what I'd do at this point, because the OP is now in a really awkward situation of looking like the bad guy, thus driving the narrative the DH is obviously lapping up and which is giving him quite the dopamine hit of him being the hero. Could really escalate. I think I'd tell my husband that this risks their relationship and tell him it's his choice if he'd rather be with someone else. I would say the NDN is pretty unstable, but clearly the DH is blinded.

CurlewKate · 14/11/2025 10:23

MeetMyCat · 14/11/2025 10:14

But sadly its all too common. The 'helpless young woman' knows exactly what she's doing.

and you would want to stay with this man exactly why?