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AIBU to feel hurt and pushed aside by DIL?

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confusedgranny · 13/11/2025 13:25

I’m genuinely not sure anymore whether I’m being reasonable or “one of THOSE MILs”.

My DIL is pregnant with their 2nd child. Her first birth was very traumatic, and I’ve honestly tried to be sensitive and supportive this time. Despite this I appear to have got it wrong. One small example: I recently found out (through my other child) that during the first birth, DIL didn’t want me updated when labour started and would have preferred to tell me only once the baby had arrived (I didn’t message or try to contact her once during the labour). She also found it offensive when I asked my son how HE was following the traumatic birth. I genuinely thought he might need checking on too, given how shaken he said he felt, but it seems that was taken as ignoring her experience. This time they have a planned C section “for late November”, they know a date but didn’t specify so I didn’t ask. (Should I? Don’t want to be called intrusive).

There’s also the issue of how often they see DIL’s parents. My son can work from home, so they go to her mum and dad’s for days at a time. Meanwhile I get one day visit per month. I travel to them, and I don’t stay overnight because it’s never been offered or suggested. I’ve tried not to take it personally and have never said anything, but it’s hard not to notice the difference.

And when it comes to childcare, it feels even more lopsided. My granddaughter is often left with their nanny or with DIL’s mum but never with me. I’ve been told by DIL because with a nanny “it feels easier” in that it’s a paid service — you pay the nanny and no one owes each other anything at the end. I can understand the logic, but it’s painful to feel that a hired professional is seen as less complicated and more trustworthy than the child’s own grandmother.

And I know (again, through my other child) that DIL is uncomfortable with my son ever taking GD to stay with me overnight because she’s never been away from the child overnight and “it would upset both her and the child.” So I’m left feeling like I’m some sort of risk or stranger, even though I’m her grandmother. My son isn’t allowed to go without her (or he risks upsetting his wife which understandably he doesn’t want to do, esp I ally pregnant) and she doesn’t want to come. They’ve been here 3 times total.

Communication is becoming another minefield. I want to keep the group chat warm and friendly, but I’m increasingly aware that asking for a photo of GD or sending a picture of my garden or something I’m doing seems to irritate her. If I message, I feel annoying; if I don’t, I feel distant. I can’t seem to get it right.

And is there anything I can do to rebuild things when I seem to get everything wrong no matter how careful I try to be?

OP posts:
MeetMyCat · 13/11/2025 15:55

you aren’t top grandma. Mum’s mum usually is.

Absolutely this

CatrionaBalfour · 13/11/2025 15:55

I can't work out why they won't tell you the date of the C Section? What do they think will happen, or is it just to make a point?

Charminggoldfinch · 13/11/2025 15:51

It’s difficult to advise you OP without knowing your sons and DIL’s side of the story. I would say though that your son is his own person - if he wanted you to have a close relationship with his children or see you more then it’s up to him to facilitate that not DIL. If I was you I would perhaps do some honest reflection on what your relationship was like with your son before he got with DIL etc. when adult children have their own kids it exemplifies existing issues in their relationship between them and their parents and highlights it. I would be cautious of blaming your DIL and potentially scapegoating her for issues in the family dynamic between you and your son. I hope you get this sorted.

Daisy12Maisie · 13/11/2025 15:51

Why don’t you buy her a pregnancy pamper kit? What’s the worst that could happen from that.

Im going through a bereavement at the moment and my partners mum who has always said she would like us to be closer has behaved like a prat. Made really inappropriate comments and said no to the one thing I asked her to do.
If she had dropped over a lasagne or something it would have gone a long way as we are not really managing to eat other than take away. As it stands I feel I will need to keep my distance from her going forward as she has been so unkind at a time she could have been kind/ helpful.

So even if you have annoyed her by accident or she feels let down by whatever a small thoughtful gift wouldn’t hurt. I would like something edible but there may be something else that suits her that would be thoughtful.

MadisonMarieParksValetta · 13/11/2025 15:50

I think your DIL sounds very difficult OP but unfortunately I don't see how you can change that. You aren't doing anything wrong at all. It's such a shame.

MadisonMarieParksValetta · 13/11/2025 15:49

Octavia64 · 13/11/2025 13:35

i think you just need to calm down.

you aren’t top grandma. Mum’s mum usually is.

I had a traumatic birth and I’d have been pretty pissed at you asking my dh how he was when I nearly died.

at the end of the day, follow her cues. Don’t push too hard but be available.

That's ridiculous honestly.

I also nearly died with my eldest and my husband went to his mums when he left the hospital where of course his own mother asked how he was. Wtf? My husband needed support too. He was in a state of shock.

CluelessInLondon · 13/11/2025 15:48

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 13/11/2025 15:44

Yes she is, the DIL needs taking to task by the OP's son. He needs to grow some balls and tell her stop controlling everything, and deliberately excluding his mother, and slagging her off to all and sundry!

I notice the (few) people on here defending the DIL are conveniently NOT mentioning the fact that the OP's other child keeps being telling her (the OP) of all the nasty shit the OP's DIL and her mother keep saying. As well as excluding her hugely!

Anyone defending this DIL and her mother needs to give their head a wobble! They sound dreadful! The DIL won't even allow the OP to have any of the children at her house overnight, like she's some kind of threat or danger to them FFS! Hmm But mommie dearest - HER mother gets to see, and look after the children whenever she likes!

@confusedgranny You have my sympathy, truly you do. Ignore the haters on here, you have done nothing wrong. Your SIL's behaviour is awful, but it's up to your SON to deal with it.

Where does the DIL's mother come into it? I can't see anything in the OP's posts about DIL and her own mother being nasty about her.

Digdongdoo · 13/11/2025 15:45

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 13/11/2025 15:44

Yes she is, the DIL needs taking to task by the OP's son. He needs to grow some balls and tell her stop controlling everything, and deliberately excluding his mother, and slagging her off to all and sundry!

I notice the (few) people on here defending the DIL are conveniently NOT mentioning the fact that the OP's other child keeps being telling her (the OP) of all the nasty shit the OP's DIL and her mother keep saying. As well as excluding her hugely!

Anyone defending this DIL and her mother needs to give their head a wobble! They sound dreadful! The DIL won't even allow the OP to have any of the children at her house overnight, like she's some kind of threat or danger to them FFS! Hmm But mommie dearest - HER mother gets to see, and look after the children whenever she likes!

@confusedgranny You have my sympathy, truly you do. Ignore the haters on here, you have done nothing wrong. Your SIL's behaviour is awful, but it's up to your SON to deal with it.

What "nasty shit" has DIL said?

GooseyGandalf · 13/11/2025 15:45

With the best of intentions, I don’t find my PiLs very easy to get along with. They’re just completely different to me and I guess that we just rub each other the wrong way.

What has helped is that dh has a strong relationship with them, and takes the dc to visit so that I only go every 3-4 times, which is more manageable for me.

I use dh as a go between, or a buffer, and it has made for smoother relationships all round. Maybe you should focus your efforts on your ds, and keep a bit of a cheery distance from your dil? Send your best wishes through him, but stop interacting with her directly.

I know that sounds counterintuitive but we’re not meant to get along brilliantly with everyone and in law relationships are especially tricky. We get thrown together at an unearned intimacy level - we’re family yet if the marriage broke down, the inlaw would be dropped like a hot potato. I don’t mean cut all communication with her either, just pull back a bit.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 13/11/2025 15:44

Gloriia · 13/11/2025 15:27

The son isnt allowed to take his own dd to see his dm without the controlling wife, who doesn't want to go! So yes the dw is to blame in this scenario.

Yes she is, the DIL needs taking to task by the OP's son. He needs to grow some balls and tell her stop controlling everything, and deliberately excluding his mother, and slagging her off to all and sundry!

I notice the (few) people on here defending the DIL are conveniently NOT mentioning the fact that the OP's other child keeps being telling her (the OP) of all the nasty shit the OP's DIL and her mother keep saying. As well as excluding her hugely!

Anyone defending this DIL and her mother needs to give their head a wobble! They sound dreadful! The DIL won't even allow the OP to have any of the children at her house overnight, like she's some kind of threat or danger to them FFS! Hmm But mommie dearest - HER mother gets to see, and look after the children whenever she likes!

@confusedgranny You have my sympathy, truly you do. Ignore the haters on here, you have done nothing wrong. Your SIL's behaviour is awful, but it's up to your SON to deal with it.

shiverjrteee · 13/11/2025 15:43

MD2020and10LambertandButlerPlease · 13/11/2025 13:33

Its absolutely fine for her not to want you updated during labour, and to be a bit pissed off that your main concern was for your son rather than her after a traumatic birth.

You've also asked her why she leaves the baby with a nanny and her mum instead of you, and clearly created an environment where your other child feels comfortable enough to stir up trouble and gossip with you about her. So I dont think you're quite as laid back as youre trying to portray here.

The OP didn’t say that her son was her main concern.My daughters last labour was very traumatic ( I was there ) and I can honestly say that obviously the baby and daughter were my priority but I was absolutely concerned for my Son IL who was very distressed as well . He had lots of hugs and we have had long chats about the ordeal many times since. All ok now.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 13/11/2025 15:40

You have a weak son problem, my dear.
As for most of the comments on here, they are obviously controlling dil nightmares as well.😂
All you can do is be there when they need you, op
X

Differentforgirls · 13/11/2025 15:39

MrFluffyDogIsMyBestFriend · 13/11/2025 15:08

It sounds as if she's determined to be offended by everything you do and say. She's depriving her children of your love, which I think is incredibly selfish. I'd usually look for things you weren't telling us, but you seem self aware.

I can't believe the people saying that you're jealous that you're not top grandma...ignore them - they sound young or mentally challenged.

Mentally challenged? Btw, they are HER children, not the OP's.

OP, I have two boys, my MIL has four. Neither of us have daughters. I love her.

However, one day I had invited her out for lunch and she used it as an opportunity to tell me that my husband didn't call her enough and ask how I would like it if it was my two. So could I have a word?

I told her that if was my two, I would take it up with them and not their partners and if she ever used an invite to lunch with me again to berate me about her relationship with her son, then it would be her last lunch with me.

Stop blaming your DIL.

Also, if I found out that my MIL was gossiping about me with her children, she would never have the opportunity to do it again as I would simply ensure she had nothing to gossip about as she wouldn't see me for dust.

Your relationship with your son is the one thats needs to be mended. Not the one with your DIL.

Hotchocolateandsnow · 13/11/2025 15:32

I feel like the DIL is getting a lot of blame that should be put on your son OP.

You want to sleep over, suggest it. Say you can get an hotel for the night, speak to your son.

Digging further, OP do you have anxiety by any chance? You seem to be spiralling and making things bigger than they potentially are.

MintTwirl · 13/11/2025 15:29

Gloriia · 13/11/2025 15:27

The son isnt allowed to take his own dd to see his dm without the controlling wife, who doesn't want to go! So yes the dw is to blame in this scenario.

That’s not what OP said. DIL doesn’t want to be away overnight from her dc (like many mothers of young children) but that doesn’t stop the son taking the little one over for a daytime visit.

DaisyChain505 · 13/11/2025 15:29

You’re placing alot of blame on your DIL and not even thinking about how your son could make more of an effort to see you and involve you in his child’s life. It is not his wife’s responsibility.

PirateDays · 13/11/2025 15:28

I hate this top Grandma being the mum's mum - why should that be the case?
Its just as much our grandchild as theirs.

I think it's not actually the case that they're the preferred grandparent, but more that they tend to see the grandchildren more because mothers, especially new first time mothers, (understandably) feel more comfortable with their own parents, potentially in their own childhood home.

Gloriia · 13/11/2025 15:27

LadyDanburysHat · 13/11/2025 15:25

But she is spending time with them. And as many others have commented she is fully blaming her DIL for this, instead of her son.

The son isnt allowed to take his own dd to see his dm without the controlling wife, who doesn't want to go! So yes the dw is to blame in this scenario.

PirateDays · 13/11/2025 15:27

I feel for you OP, it makes me sad on here when so many people seem to think it's totally normal only seeing their mothers once a month, especially when there is such an imbalance between the 2 sets of in-laws.

I can understand why DIL doesn't want to come and stay with you when your son will be working, I wouldn't want to do that at my in-laws' either. It would be different at my own parents'. But I am not sure why they couldn't see you a little more often/invite you to stay here and there so you could spend a few days with the GC.

Does your other child live nearby to your son and DIL?

Trickletreat · 13/11/2025 15:26

Octavia64 · 13/11/2025 13:35

i think you just need to calm down.

you aren’t top grandma. Mum’s mum usually is.

I had a traumatic birth and I’d have been pretty pissed at you asking my dh how he was when I nearly died.

at the end of the day, follow her cues. Don’t push too hard but be available.

I hate this top Grandma being the mum's mum - why should that be the case?
Its just as much our grandchild as theirs.
I know where you are coming from OP, I suspect I will be in the same position soon.
It irks me because if you don't offer the help you are branded as not bothered, but if you do you are seen as overbearing - it seems us MIL's or '2nd grandma's ' cant win.
And why should you not ask how your son is.. he also had a traumatic experience

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 13/11/2025 15:26

MrsTerryPratchett · 13/11/2025 15:18

I very much hope this DIL is not on MN. A woman who might not even know she has a disgruntled MIL, very pregnant with her second child after a traumatic first birth. Being called a madam, bitch, selfish and all sorts.

There is a GransNet. I don't go there but it might be more appropriate for this. Because third hand accounts of mild annoyance turning into a a heavily pregnant woman being called a bitch? Possibly not in the spirit of MUMSnet.

I hope she IS on here. Maybe she will think twice about her behaviour (and her family's behaviour) and attitude towards the OP. The mother of her childrens father!

LadyDanburysHat · 13/11/2025 15:25

gamerchick · 13/11/2025 15:24

It's not needy to want to spend time with your son and grandchild.

But she is spending time with them. And as many others have commented she is fully blaming her DIL for this, instead of her son.

Gloriia · 13/11/2025 15:25

MrsTerryPratchett · 13/11/2025 15:22

You hope a heavily pregnant woman hears she's a 'bitch'? Because of a third hand conversation.

Yeah, she's not the bitch.

She isnt a 'bitch' no. As i said most posters have politely pointed out that the dil is oversensitive and controlling. She needs to know that as the wet dh seems happy to have her call all the shots.

gamerchick · 13/11/2025 15:24

LadyDanburysHat · 13/11/2025 14:45

I don't push my MIL out, but she also isn't desperately needy. I do agree with others that the DIL is standoffish, but perhaps it is partly the way the OP acts around her.

It's not needy to want to spend time with your son and grandchild.

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