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AIBU to feel hurt and pushed aside by DIL?

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confusedgranny · 13/11/2025 13:25

I’m genuinely not sure anymore whether I’m being reasonable or “one of THOSE MILs”.

My DIL is pregnant with their 2nd child. Her first birth was very traumatic, and I’ve honestly tried to be sensitive and supportive this time. Despite this I appear to have got it wrong. One small example: I recently found out (through my other child) that during the first birth, DIL didn’t want me updated when labour started and would have preferred to tell me only once the baby had arrived (I didn’t message or try to contact her once during the labour). She also found it offensive when I asked my son how HE was following the traumatic birth. I genuinely thought he might need checking on too, given how shaken he said he felt, but it seems that was taken as ignoring her experience. This time they have a planned C section “for late November”, they know a date but didn’t specify so I didn’t ask. (Should I? Don’t want to be called intrusive).

There’s also the issue of how often they see DIL’s parents. My son can work from home, so they go to her mum and dad’s for days at a time. Meanwhile I get one day visit per month. I travel to them, and I don’t stay overnight because it’s never been offered or suggested. I’ve tried not to take it personally and have never said anything, but it’s hard not to notice the difference.

And when it comes to childcare, it feels even more lopsided. My granddaughter is often left with their nanny or with DIL’s mum but never with me. I’ve been told by DIL because with a nanny “it feels easier” in that it’s a paid service — you pay the nanny and no one owes each other anything at the end. I can understand the logic, but it’s painful to feel that a hired professional is seen as less complicated and more trustworthy than the child’s own grandmother.

And I know (again, through my other child) that DIL is uncomfortable with my son ever taking GD to stay with me overnight because she’s never been away from the child overnight and “it would upset both her and the child.” So I’m left feeling like I’m some sort of risk or stranger, even though I’m her grandmother. My son isn’t allowed to go without her (or he risks upsetting his wife which understandably he doesn’t want to do, esp I ally pregnant) and she doesn’t want to come. They’ve been here 3 times total.

Communication is becoming another minefield. I want to keep the group chat warm and friendly, but I’m increasingly aware that asking for a photo of GD or sending a picture of my garden or something I’m doing seems to irritate her. If I message, I feel annoying; if I don’t, I feel distant. I can’t seem to get it right.

And is there anything I can do to rebuild things when I seem to get everything wrong no matter how careful I try to be?

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confusedgranny · 13/11/2025 13:44

@SoftLeafRe my son “stepping up” — I think he avoids confrontation entirely. He tends to go with whatever keeps the peace at home, which I do understand. But it means decisions default to what DIL prefers, not necessarily what he wants or what might work for both sides.

@LadyDanburysHatI honestly don’t feel “jealous”, and I’m certainly not trying to be “top Grandma”. I’m not competing with anyone. I just want some relationship with my granddaughter that isn’t limited to one day a month where I pop down, hand over a couple of books, and go home. The huge imbalance in time is what makes it noticeable - they do have the time, I’m just not worth it.
As for the labour, I just can’t understand why my son texting me “my wife is in labour, you’ll be a granny soon” was such a big deal considering I didn’t text her, didn’t disturb or invite myself anywhere.

@BigNovthats the thing, I’m not sure what I’ve done to become so untrustworthy. I’d love to know but don’t want to create drama or be labelled intrusive by asking. And she certainly doesn’t need the drama when heavily pregnant or with a newborn.

@MD2020and10LambertandButlerPleaseAs for the nanny/grandma thing — I didn’t interrogate her. I just offered to babysit at times. Her explanation about the nanny being a paid service was actually very matter-of-fact, not dramatic. I accepted it immediately.
About my other child “stirring up trouble” — it came up because we were talking about general family stuff, the arrival of a new nephew and they mentioned DIL had vented about not liking labour updates the first time. It wasn’t gossiping, just context.
I promise I’m not pretending to be laid back — I am trying to tread carefully. I want to be as honest as possible here because I want advice from kind internet strangers but this isn’t a place where I’d care about people’s opinions and would happily hear if I’m in the wrong and can correct for the sake of my relationship with my GC.

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EsmeArcher · 13/11/2025 13:42

Octavia64 · 13/11/2025 13:35

i think you just need to calm down.

you aren’t top grandma. Mum’s mum usually is.

I had a traumatic birth and I’d have been pretty pissed at you asking my dh how he was when I nearly died.

at the end of the day, follow her cues. Don’t push too hard but be available.

I’m sorry you had a traumatic birth, I had one too, but surely you appreciate that it must have been awful for your husband to be a helpless bystander watching his most beloved person potentially at the risk of death?

NerrSnerr · 13/11/2025 13:41

We didn’t tell any family when we were due to have our c sections, just friends who were local. We just didn’t want the endless ‘hoe are you getting on’ messages.

Focus on your relationship with your son. You won’t annoy DIL if you message him to ask for pictures. I also think it would probably be better to ask how he’s getting on in private, my MIL is a bit like this and it comes across that the woman has to put up with it but the man must be celebrated for anything they do.

JustTakeTheCakeJake · 13/11/2025 13:40

It's very normal for a baby's Mum's Mum to be more closely involved. Don't keep score.

The labour thing is weird.
Your ds needs to have a stronger role.

Be nice to dil, tell her she's a great mum, don't keep counting who's had grandchild when and i think the rest will follow.

MrsTerryPratchett · 13/11/2025 13:39

Group chat <shudder>

If you're a grandmother you must remember a time when we weren't all constantly available to each other. It made us miss each other. Being ever-present I think is one of the issues with family now.

Once a month is normal for a visit. I wouldn't push overnights.

And did you ask her first about the traumatic birth or straight to asking DS?

TheignT · 13/11/2025 13:39

Octavia64 · 13/11/2025 13:35

i think you just need to calm down.

you aren’t top grandma. Mum’s mum usually is.

I had a traumatic birth and I’d have been pretty pissed at you asking my dh how he was when I nearly died.

at the end of the day, follow her cues. Don’t push too hard but be available.

Asking about how her son or your husband is doesn't mean she isn't considering what the mother has been through. I'm sure she asked her son how his wife was. When my DD gave birth I also asked my SIL how he was.

Octavia64 · 13/11/2025 13:35

i think you just need to calm down.

you aren’t top grandma. Mum’s mum usually is.

I had a traumatic birth and I’d have been pretty pissed at you asking my dh how he was when I nearly died.

at the end of the day, follow her cues. Don’t push too hard but be available.

MD2020and10LambertandButlerPlease · 13/11/2025 13:33

Its absolutely fine for her not to want you updated during labour, and to be a bit pissed off that your main concern was for your son rather than her after a traumatic birth.

You've also asked her why she leaves the baby with a nanny and her mum instead of you, and clearly created an environment where your other child feels comfortable enough to stir up trouble and gossip with you about her. So I dont think you're quite as laid back as youre trying to portray here.

BigNov · 13/11/2025 13:31

You obviously don’t have a good relationship with her/she doesn’t feel comfortable around you/doesn’t like you…so why is any of this surprising? She’s acting exactly as someone who doesn’t trust their MIL would act.

SoftLeaf · 13/11/2025 13:31

As a DIL, I can see that she is quite thoughtless. You’re not her mum, so she’s not interested in including you. And she has enough support from her own mum to not bother appeasing you.

Awful for you, especially when I bet you do want to help with no strings.

But this is where your son needs to step the f up. Where is he?

He is supposed to be an equal and competent parent to DGD. When DIL says don’t take her to see you, his response should be “well come along then, or I’m taking DD by myself”.

LadyDanburysHat · 13/11/2025 13:29

Honestly your relationship with them is fine, you just seem jealous that you are not top Grandma.

As for not updating when in labour, that is perfectly reasonable and no reason why you should feel put out that she wanted that.

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