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MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · 13/11/2025 11:18

He has recently replaced DD's car and is allowing her to keep the money that she gets when she has sold her old car - which should be around £12,000. He is a generous father.

But he's a nip screw husband.

The dishwasher which I have had for 15 years broke down a month ago and instead of replacing it with a new one, he ordered the part required and fixed it himself (he's also very practical).

This part lasted short of a month and the dishwasher, which let's face it, is elderly, has again broken down.

It has been broken for a few days and I hate washing up as he insists on cooking and he uses every pot and utensil we possess.

I have sourced a replacement which can be picked up in store within the hour. But he says that he's going to fix the old one and 'don't you dare go wasting money'.

There are two days worth of dishes piled up in the kitchen because I am refusing to (blackmailing) hand wash anymore. He's stomping around effing and Jeffing because there are no clean teaspoons. Poor man.

Should I order whatever I want - I can get delivery tomorrow? Or wait for him to be bothered to order the part he thinks he needs - which may or may not fix an ancient relic?

Why is he generous with the children but not with me? Should I LTB? He hates me doesn't he?

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weusedtobeapropercountry · 15/11/2025 20:31

BauhausOfEliott · 13/11/2025 12:03

Most of our money is in joint accounts - but I've always asked to spend larger amounts (he doesn't) - he bought a boat without my knowledge recently.

Don't ask him and just buy the fucking dishwasher, then!

If he questions this, point out that he bought a boat and didn't even tell you.

I would be getting a LOT of mileage out of that boat. It would be hanging precariously over his head every day, until the day I finally got sick of his tight fisted penny pinching ways.

It's better to ask forgiveness than permission.

PersonPerssonson · 15/11/2025 20:28

Sounds like you've made it his problem. Leave it and don't worry about it. Tell him if he wants dinner he'll have to wash up. Or eat out or order Deliveroo (and eat from the packaging) which isn't cost effective.
He now incentivises himself to get on with the fixing or give up.

I do see where he's coming from, dishwashers aren't cheap. If he can fix it that will save a lot. I suspect he wasn't confident on fixing the old car quite so easily. 'He hates me doesn't he' is a bit melodramatic.

You're doing the right thing making it his problem... see how long he lasts!

TheGreenUser · 15/11/2025 20:02

AcrossthePond55 · 15/11/2025 15:35

@MyOtherCarIsAPorsche

You aren't stupid. But you are prizing 'bricks and sticks' above your own happiness and most especially, your financial security. Why does the house mean so much to you that you're willing to sacrifice your happiness and your financial future for it? Houses are not happiness. It's the lives lived within them that are. And don't say "Oh, there are good times". I know that. DH and I had wonderful times, fabulous times and if I'd stayed I'm sure we would have had them in the future. But those momentary 'good times' would end upburied under the growing slag heap of abuse and sadness.

I've already said upthread that you and I are in very similar positions. The difference is that I decided that our house (3300 sq ft, on 3 acres just to clarify what I've 'given up'), the house we raised our kids in, simply was not worth the abuse and unhappiness I was enduring nor the unhappy future that lay before me. I am much happier in my little flat than I have been in the last 6 months. What will happen to our house? I have no idea, but that's something for down the road. For right now, I'm content to be living in peace and calm and by my own rules. And the knowledge that I have moved 'my share' of the finances to where he can't touch it. And that I'm pursuing legal avenues to see that he never can and that, should he run out 'his share' I will not be liable for his foolishness.

I'm not telling you to leave. That has to be your own decision. I'm just saying to be completely honest as to the ramifications of the choice you have made because things are not going to get better. But more importantly, please don't say 'never' when it comes to leaving your house. Just say 'for now'.

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Gerwurtztraminer · 15/11/2025 19:30

This is one of the saddest threads I've read in quite a while. Partly because it feels you have accepted this life and won't do what's needed to be happy again.

Please OP, don't put a house ahead of happiness. There are other happy houses to live in.
Don't waste the rest of your life hoping in vain that he'll stop hurting you.
Don't risk the mental health of your grandchildren tip toeing around a man they know they have to keep on side or the nasty side will come out.
Don't wait until you are older and poorer and your physical & mental health is shot, lonely because the children and GC no longer come to see you as H has got even worse. Don't wait to regret your life choices.

Do you really think he can't help it? Does he treat people outside the family like this or can he control it? Is he even trying to get medical advice and help for these outbursts and awful behaviour or is he simply enjoying having everyone dancing around him?

You are not unintelligent, but you are being 'stupid' to hold on to put up with this.

Jazzcatt · 15/11/2025 19:12

He can't control how you spend your money! And it's for something that benefits you both!
Have you ever asked him why he's so generous with your children and such a tight arse with you? Is he doing it to wind you up?

Pumpkinsonastring · 15/11/2025 18:48

I wouldn't give him the satisfaction of being the bad guy. I'd waste money alright, by going out to avoid his moodiness.

I'd leave him to come to a decision himself about whether to
a) do the washing up himself,
b) fix the old dishwasher or
c) buy a new one.
He's caused this problem, let him figure out the solution. Show him you're not his handmaiden and won't tolerate his manipulative behaviour (which is designed to get you to back down).

There's loads of places you can go. The leisure centre, the cinema, the library, the pub, a restaurant, a friend's house, horse riding lessons, a pilates class, join the women's institute at the community centre, driving around aimlessly in your car, taking a walk in the last of the daylight, tourist attraction if you live in a big city where things are open late (the London eye is great at night), church service, wandering round the late night opening at the shopping mall.

Anything other than hanging out at home in an atmosphere. Go have fun and live life. Stop trying to fix everything and be all things to all people, including him.

Mummyof2andthatsenough · 15/11/2025 16:36

The only way I convinced hubby we really did need a dishwasher when when I got eczema on my hands and handwashing made it so much worse!

AcrossthePond55 · 15/11/2025 15:35

@MyOtherCarIsAPorsche

You aren't stupid. But you are prizing 'bricks and sticks' above your own happiness and most especially, your financial security. Why does the house mean so much to you that you're willing to sacrifice your happiness and your financial future for it? Houses are not happiness. It's the lives lived within them that are. And don't say "Oh, there are good times". I know that. DH and I had wonderful times, fabulous times and if I'd stayed I'm sure we would have had them in the future. But those momentary 'good times' would end upburied under the growing slag heap of abuse and sadness.

I've already said upthread that you and I are in very similar positions. The difference is that I decided that our house (3300 sq ft, on 3 acres just to clarify what I've 'given up'), the house we raised our kids in, simply was not worth the abuse and unhappiness I was enduring nor the unhappy future that lay before me. I am much happier in my little flat than I have been in the last 6 months. What will happen to our house? I have no idea, but that's something for down the road. For right now, I'm content to be living in peace and calm and by my own rules. And the knowledge that I have moved 'my share' of the finances to where he can't touch it. And that I'm pursuing legal avenues to see that he never can and that, should he run out 'his share' I will not be liable for his foolishness.

I'm not telling you to leave. That has to be your own decision. I'm just saying to be completely honest as to the ramifications of the choice you have made because things are not going to get better. But more importantly, please don't say 'never' when it comes to leaving your house. Just say 'for now'.

TheMimsy · 15/11/2025 15:10

@MyOtherCarIsAPorsche Would your children have anything to do with him or let him see their children alone if you were no longer together.

I think the children and DGC visits and stays will tail off as they age and you will end up more trapped with an abusive and unpleasant partner.

Being a martyr to your wedding vows and living a miserable life in your shared home simply isn’t worth it to me.

separate and your children can decide on the relationship they wish to have with their dad.

BellesAndGraces · 15/11/2025 15:00

MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · 15/11/2025 14:36

I can't seem to keep them separate. I tread on egg shells with H and to some extent with all the DGC. I am consciously trying not to trigger 'behaviours' from the lot of them.

Asking to brush DGD's hair can set off the worst meltdown. So has to be 'are we going to brush your hair today?' rather than 'in 5 min it's time to brush your hair'. This approach can set H off and he'll say 'why are you letting them tell you what to do. Why can't you adult?' It incenses him.

It incenses him when I say, 'can't you just get up after I've taken the children to school' or 'why can't you just ignore us?'

It's provocative to tell him how to/how not to behave, no matter how diplomatically it is constructed.

He'll even manage to upset everyone on Christmas Day. And I now choose to spend my birthday with others - not him as he appears to go out of his way to spoil my birthday.

Usually by now, I know who is coming around for Christmas - not this year. It's looking like our children have had enough.

I am not unintelligent, I know I would have utter peace on my own, but I keep telling myself - he can't help it. It's all from physical damage which he didn't cause on purpose. I keep thinking that he'll eventually learn to stop hurting us.

My poor old dad looked after my mum who had vascular dementia until he died. She could be really vicious to him, mentally and physically. He would sometimes cry and then say 'this isn't mum' and just carry on.

Or maybe I am stupid.

You’re not stupid, you just deserve better. So do your DC and your DGC. Your DGC love him and run to him because they’re trapped in an abusive cycle. They run to him when he seems “safe” and make the utmost fuss of him and show him how much they love him because they’re trying to temper him, take the edge off his cruel, mean behaviour which they know is only lurking round the corner. They have no choice on being around him and have probably normalised his behaviour. My DH is 40 years old and still panics when he knocks a glass over because his dad did a number on him as a child.

You’re clearly a loving grandmother but no matter what fiction tells us, love is not enough. Your love for who he used to be should not be enough to make you stay and withstand his abuse and your love certainly won’t protect your DGC from the harm he’s causing. Please leave him.

MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · 15/11/2025 14:36

Nanny0gg · 15/11/2025 12:56

@MyOtherCarIsAPorsche

Why are you staying while he abuses your grandchildren?

I can't seem to keep them separate. I tread on egg shells with H and to some extent with all the DGC. I am consciously trying not to trigger 'behaviours' from the lot of them.

Asking to brush DGD's hair can set off the worst meltdown. So has to be 'are we going to brush your hair today?' rather than 'in 5 min it's time to brush your hair'. This approach can set H off and he'll say 'why are you letting them tell you what to do. Why can't you adult?' It incenses him.

It incenses him when I say, 'can't you just get up after I've taken the children to school' or 'why can't you just ignore us?'

It's provocative to tell him how to/how not to behave, no matter how diplomatically it is constructed.

He'll even manage to upset everyone on Christmas Day. And I now choose to spend my birthday with others - not him as he appears to go out of his way to spoil my birthday.

Usually by now, I know who is coming around for Christmas - not this year. It's looking like our children have had enough.

I am not unintelligent, I know I would have utter peace on my own, but I keep telling myself - he can't help it. It's all from physical damage which he didn't cause on purpose. I keep thinking that he'll eventually learn to stop hurting us.

My poor old dad looked after my mum who had vascular dementia until he died. She could be really vicious to him, mentally and physically. He would sometimes cry and then say 'this isn't mum' and just carry on.

Or maybe I am stupid.

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MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · 15/11/2025 14:07

Nevereatcardboard · 15/11/2025 11:28

How often do your DGC hear him shouting and swearing? I think it’s appalling that you and your DCs allow this to happen while they are in your care. I don’t think you understand just how bad this is for ND children.

Most times he sees them - it's a watered down version of swearing - but still very offensive.

Blithering bloody idiot, clumsy sod, stupid, what's wrong with you idiot?

I go to one daughter's house to childmind: it's an hour away by car so he doesn't see our three DGC who live there very often.

My other daughter drops her children off here on her way to work. If I went out to childmind, I would never be at home and it made me feel under pressure to spend my day off cleaning instead of relaxing.

These DGC still adore him, he's just spent two cold and wet hours with them at their football club this morning. He takes the boys to drive their quad bike and motor bike. He takes them on the train regularly for days out. He goes swimming with them every Sunday. He toasts marshmallows with them whenever they have a sleepover. He does all the great outdoor stuff with them, whereas I am the boring one who makes them read their school books, practice handwriting, quiet crafts, board games, home corner stuff. I make meals for them, clean their shoes, put their coats near the radiator so they're warm for when they go out. I clean and tidy up after them, buy their shoes and coats (like my mum used to with my children).

When they arrive they always run to grandad and he will throw them in the air and they have a 'mad half hour'.

The majority of the time he's fun and perfectly reasonable. But there's always a point where, for example, there's too many crumbs, someone drops something messy, DGS has not eaten anything, they ignore his requests ....

I have to jump in - and when they've gone, tell him he can't say that and he'll insist he's in the right and that they'll never learn while I'm pandering to them and wrapping them in cotton wool. He says they'll get worse abuse at school. And they have really: one of them gets called 'Dalek' because of how he speaks and one gets called 'Dropsy' because he has epilepsy and falls spectacularly, there are many falls documented in his seizure record - he had a terrific fall on sports day and the whole of KS 1/early years saw it. Both terms, I think, coined by adults and just as bad as H's insults.

When he's not here the DGC ask for him - they want him around.

I know he models cruel behaviour. I can preempt some of it and smooth things over before he has a chance to wade in but his vile words always seem to be able to escape him.

He was not like this before - in fact, he was always at work before his surgery and only saw them on sleepovers and family get togethers.

He saves the spicier swearing for me.

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Nanny0gg · 15/11/2025 12:56

@MyOtherCarIsAPorsche

Why are you staying while he abuses your grandchildren?

Nanny0gg · 15/11/2025 12:56

MustWeDoThis · 15/11/2025 12:49

Why do you need his permission? Is he your husband or your keeper?

GO.AND.GET.THAT.DISHWASHER!!! Do it for those of us who do not have one!!!

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Sorry but it's installed and in use now

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I refer you to your user name

KateShugakIsALegend · 15/11/2025 12:51

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Perhaps try getting back into bed then getting out of the other side?

Or maybe a few deep breaths?

Wishing you well, hope your day gets better.

MustWeDoThis · 15/11/2025 12:49

MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · 13/11/2025 11:18

He has recently replaced DD's car and is allowing her to keep the money that she gets when she has sold her old car - which should be around £12,000. He is a generous father.

But he's a nip screw husband.

The dishwasher which I have had for 15 years broke down a month ago and instead of replacing it with a new one, he ordered the part required and fixed it himself (he's also very practical).

This part lasted short of a month and the dishwasher, which let's face it, is elderly, has again broken down.

It has been broken for a few days and I hate washing up as he insists on cooking and he uses every pot and utensil we possess.

I have sourced a replacement which can be picked up in store within the hour. But he says that he's going to fix the old one and 'don't you dare go wasting money'.

There are two days worth of dishes piled up in the kitchen because I am refusing to (blackmailing) hand wash anymore. He's stomping around effing and Jeffing because there are no clean teaspoons. Poor man.

Should I order whatever I want - I can get delivery tomorrow? Or wait for him to be bothered to order the part he thinks he needs - which may or may not fix an ancient relic?

Why is he generous with the children but not with me? Should I LTB? He hates me doesn't he?

Why do you need his permission? Is he your husband or your keeper?

GO.AND.GET.THAT.DISHWASHER!!! Do it for those of us who do not have one!!!

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KateShugakIsALegend · 15/11/2025 12:48

Wishing you a happy and fulfilling future, @MyOtherCarIsAPorsche .

I think I would be laying out some options for my DH, stressing that continuing the status quo is not an option for you.

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Reported

Hotflushesandchilblains · 15/11/2025 12:44

I can assure you literally no one but you and apparently your family have ever heard that phrase.

You are wrong @MissDoubleU - its a very old term, but it was well known. Have even seen it in old novels.

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Well maybe you should and you would see exactly what is going on. I will give you a clue - she's not the jerk

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