Who wants to wait whilst my kittens are born!

Are you mentally challenged. Why are you talking about bananas.

Nothing wrong with terfs. Personally I loathe bananas.

There was no need for any of the nastiness on this thread.

I doubt they have, Mumsnet is notorious for getting worked up over people having pets. The multitude of posters who say dogs are disgusting and treat cats like they're fleas is giving OCD.

I am genuinely interested about how you know who the Dad is. Was it an arranged thing or did you see this black one hanging around?

Absolutely not asking to criticise, just being nosey and recalling the pregnancy of our neighbour's cat who escaped before being neutered. No idea who the Dad was, but bit of a giveaway that one of the kittens was bright orange!

The poster with Terf in her name (ew) sounds utterly nasty and condescending. I was telling her so. I'd rather have more cats that people like her around.

So you don't have children or contribute to capitalism I take it?

These people can't read correctly, OP. I wouldn't worry about them. Apparently they are cat saints and spend their lives covered in cat pee when not screeching at people on the internet. They're lonely little sadsacks.

@Kittenwatch please can you start another thread in the Litter Tray board in a few days' time so we can see how the little ones are getting on? I would love to have an update without the derailments.

I’m in London too, and I had a very similar experience when I was looking for my current cat three years ago.

I was 64 at the time, and had lived with cats constantly from birth, with the exception of about three years when I was very young. My last two cats lived to 20 and 21 respectively, and I approached various cat rescues about a month after the 21 year old died - the house just felt so wrong without a cat. We have a big house with a large secluded garden, and it’s extremely difficult for a cat to get out to the road at the front unless they travel across many back gardens to find a way out to the front. My husband had retired by that time so was at home all day, and I was working part time from home so was also around all day. I was completely truthful about my experience with cats and what we could offer them, and particularly wanted a kitten or a young cat. For reasons best known to themselves, Battersea and Celia Hammond both told me that I wasn’t suitable to adopt one of their cats, the Cats Protection League took my details but didn’t get back to me for several weeks. I contacted four other rescues and they all claimed not to have any kittens or young cats. I also rang local vets to see if they had clients who might want have kittens looking for a home. After two weeks of trying I gave up and bought my current lovely cat from Gumtree.

Love it!!!

Judging a person by some else’s actions! Can you not see how wrong that is?

You don’t know OP, you could walk past her on the street, yet you unquestionably believe that she is a liar because someone else you know, completely unrelated, at a completely different time and place, did something different?

Zero credibility.

Some of the reasons we received:

Concerns about us not being at home a lot - even though my husband works within walking distance of our home and I wfh twice a week.
Garden was too small and enclosed, some were not happy that we planned on cat fencing to ensure it didn’t roam free.
Concerns about us having children - even though we didn’t want any, still don’t want any and will never have any.
Two bedroom home was too small

My pearls have been well and truly clutched at this remark 😆

Please don’t waste another moment replying to them just keep posting gorgeous kitty piccies please!

That’s all it has become these days - a pile on. It’s such a shame that it goes this way but it virtually every thread overtaken by negative judgmental folk. They’ll be on in a bit to defend their position but it’s so tedious and predictable it ruins the site.

Just found the thread, so I missed the drama, but the best thing I’ve seen on the internet today. Congratulations to you and mama cat 😻

Please keep us posted on their progress.

As an old wife myself, I have observed it to be true, having lived with female cats for six decades now.
Even our present vet at the young and cool cat hospital abides by this advice for new cat guardians.

Another thing Ive observed is the invariable habit of cat threads, in any forum, of getting very nasty. Sniping galore.
Let’s be glad for the lives of these tiny kittens at least, and not cast a pall over OP’s joy.

Yes this is what I read too, so I don't understand that comment.

You are very mistaken. That's a complete old wives tale. They definitely should not have a litter before they're spayed.

For crying out grief, what has happened to this site? A sweet post about kittens and the OP gets a kicking. Those of you who posted those joyless sanctimonious comments: Did that make you feel good? Do you feel superior now you’ve pissed on the OP’s chips? God forbid anyone could have a moment of happiness, eh?

OP, congratulations on your kittens! They’re beautiful.

The wellbeing of this new mother cat is worth something though, and a domestic indoor cat thrives if she’s allowed one litter before early spaying.
It is better, healthwise, that she be allowed to give birth just the once, but also, the experience of bearing kittens is pure pleasure to a cat, and if the kittens are found homes in advance, all is well. I say brava, to OP.
We curtail many of our a cats’ basic instincts when we live with them in our home, for many good reasons, but if circs allow it, its also good if they can at least enjoy a bit of feline family life.
That there are strays and rescues out there is not to be denied, but it’s better we focus on strengthening a NTR programme than dictate very strictly how responsible cat guardians such as this are to treat their cats.

(Id also say, and only flippantly, that if we could minimise any suffering endured by strays, I think there can never be too many cats.
Ideally they’d all live in a green park in a town centre, adding to the gaeity of the citizens, and maybe curbing the pigeon population. What else are old dears like me for, if not to feed urban cat colonies, if any survived the building boom of recent decades! )