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Am I a complete weirdo for contemplating moving to America?

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Frinkleg · 12/11/2025 20:57

It’s always been an option as dh is a pilot. He’s spoken to an airline out there and would be able to secure a job with 3x the salary. We would actually be able to feel a little bit more than just comfortable.

I actually really do love the UK. I enjoy village life, British holidays, Brits are just funnier etc.

But the money is just too much of a head turner.

We could afford a gorgeous home in Connecticut with a pool.

We spend a lot of time in the states but only as holidaymakers. It would certainly be an adjustment.

of course I fear guns, American politics re female rights, I’m by no means pro Trump. The ICE raids are horrific. But we’d have some bloody money. And a nice house.

I can’t imagine the US ever feeling like home that’s the only thing.

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Loew · 13/11/2025 13:20

MN often views the USA as a similar sized and controlled country to the UK, often forgetting that it's actually 40 times larger

Do they?

In 18 years on MN, and frequenting similar threads countless times, I'm struggling to see how anyone could assert this POV, tbh.

You'd have to be pretty ignorant of an entire smorgasbord of very obvious information to think that the US is a similar size to the UK. Separately, most people know that the political/administrative/socio-economical make-up differs to the UK.

Generally speaking, and different opinions aside, MN posters aren't quite that thick.

Cleikumstovies · 13/11/2025 13:20

I wonder if there would be as much negativity if the op was asking about Dubai, other middle eastern countries, countries in Africa. Is it just the USA that is to be avoided?

QforCucumber · 13/11/2025 12:58

I'd go for it, why not give it a try, we would if we had the opportunity. MN often views the USA as a similar sized and controlled country to the UK, often forgetting that it's actually 40 times larger and so it's stupid that there's a single president 'in charge', he isn't, every state has its own Congressional institution that basically runs things and if they disagree with the president then they can keep their own laws (very basic overview) I'd definitely choose my state carefully.

1100sq ftage of house here is considered large, a 'small' house in the US is around 1500sq ft.

We live in NE England, and my 2 primary aged kids are doing lockdown drills at school including having to hide under tables and in cupboards, this has been going on for at least 3-4 years now, and I know the local senior carries them out as well.

Connecticut has the strictest gun laws in the US too.

Over 12,000 people have been arrested so far this year in the UK for social media posts, so the talk of no free speech in the US isn't exactly any different to here atm - if anything you won't get arrested in the US for posting something on X whereas you can be here.

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 13/11/2025 12:55

Frinkleg · 13/11/2025 10:58

I’ve not said that at all. I love to embrace my family’s Indian heritage. Just that I don’t expect we would be at the top of the list of ICE raids.

Let’s leave aside the ethics and look at this purely in terms of (economic and other kinds of) benefits for you personally:

College? That would be incredibly expensive
Lack social security if anything goes wrong

legal protection in case of death or divorce: would you need a post-nup?

Did you consider custody? Would you accept being potentially trapped in the US (seeing as you probably couldn’t leave with your children unless your DH agrees)?

Social connections: do you have family and or friends in the UK? How would you feel losing these connections? For your DC to not be close to aunts, grandparents or cousins (if that would be the case in the UK)?

BunnyLake · 13/11/2025 12:52

queenofarles · 13/11/2025 11:59

Do Americans really think nothing wrong in not having free healthcare ? while the rest of us can’t comprehend why certain groups in the US are in constant danger of losing their insurance , The majority of Americans seem to think it’s fine and it’s actually the fault of those individuals for not working harder not finding a job or not being paid enough.
it’s a broken system.

Social healthcare is communism but they don’t seem to mind state education. (Before anyone says anything there was a youtube videos of Americans aghast at the idea of social healthcare for everyone, admittedly they were quite old, white and obviously not poor but it was a strange reach to think that way).

Personally if I had to live in America then East Coast/New England would be my preference. I do really like that Connecticut type home interiors, the dark wood and light furnishings. I also very much liked Newport in Rhode Island and parts of Cape Cod were gorgeous.

I have this thing though where I’d hate to live in a big country, I like small countries. It’s probably a bit unusual to have that as a requirement to move though.

queenofarles · 13/11/2025 12:49

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 13/11/2025 12:24

Your kids can stay on your insurance until they turn 26.

If they are at college, the college will also have a health insurance plan they can buy if they prefer.

See that’s what we can’t comprehend. Just why?
Healthcare should be freely available specially to those who can’t afford it. and going private should be a choice .
I know the NHS gets lots of hate and no doubt it is really struggling but honestly it’s an excellent system that does not discriminate.

Hiptothisjive · 13/11/2025 12:47

nixon1976 · 13/11/2025 09:31

We are talking about Connecticut, not a southern state. It's like comparing two completely different countries. As I said, I've lived here over seven years and literally never seen a gated community in the north east

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Hahahaha. Yeah I’m very aware of the size of the country and distance and different in states being from NA. Ive seen gated communities in New York State, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Maryland etc. They do exist - a simple google will tell you that. I have been to people houses in the eastern seaboard in gated communities.

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 13/11/2025 12:45

DdraigGoch · 13/11/2025 12:36

Have you included a buffer for inflation? Trump's trade war is causing costs to spike (when even Marjorie Taylor Green is complaining about it, it must be bad). The ACA is toast now too so health insurance premiums are about to go through the roof.

I wouldn't consider moving anywhere where I couldn't walk to the shops or get public transport somewhere. That does limit options in the US, places like Boston and Chicago aren't exactly cheap to live in. McMansions in suburbia may look attractive to you but it can be very isolating.

The ACA itself is not toast - the subsidies are, for now.

At one of our open enrollment meetings the other day someone asked if the loss of subsidies for people who get their insurance via the ACA marketplaces would push up everyone else’s premiums and the answer from the benefits specialist was ‘not a great deal’ FWIW.

DdraigGoch · 13/11/2025 12:36

Frinkleg · 12/11/2025 22:17

We’ve done the maths with the help of an online calculator and we are certainly better off in the US.

Have you included a buffer for inflation? Trump's trade war is causing costs to spike (when even Marjorie Taylor Green is complaining about it, it must be bad). The ACA is toast now too so health insurance premiums are about to go through the roof.

I wouldn't consider moving anywhere where I couldn't walk to the shops or get public transport somewhere. That does limit options in the US, places like Boston and Chicago aren't exactly cheap to live in. McMansions in suburbia may look attractive to you but it can be very isolating.

JHound · 13/11/2025 12:30

Not really. The USA is a huge and very diverse place. Moving states can be like moving European countries to an extent.

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 13/11/2025 12:24

BunnyLake · 13/11/2025 09:23

What happens about health insurance when kids have left education? Who is responsible for it?

Your kids can stay on your insurance until they turn 26.

If they are at college, the college will also have a health insurance plan they can buy if they prefer.

hididdlyho · 13/11/2025 12:07

I would be tempted to try it given your circumstances. Presumably your DH would have no problem getting another pilot job back in the UK if you move and hate living in the States? My DH wants to get out of England and he likes the idea of moving to America. Our situation is very different though, neither of us have sought after professions, so it sounds like we'd be paying out a lot of money to move out there and neither of us have even visited the US!

queenofarles · 13/11/2025 11:59

Do Americans really think nothing wrong in not having free healthcare ? while the rest of us can’t comprehend why certain groups in the US are in constant danger of losing their insurance , The majority of Americans seem to think it’s fine and it’s actually the fault of those individuals for not working harder not finding a job or not being paid enough.
it’s a broken system.

dottiedodah · 13/11/2025 11:48

I am someone who got homesick after 10 days in Florida! I think at the moment there seems to be a talk down of our country if that makes sense .Maybe because of a right wing press I don t know. Everyone is different although I think being away from familiar faces/ ways /customs is often downplayed .Can you have a long 6 weeks say or so .get to have a look close up as it were .

Agrumpyknitter · 13/11/2025 11:43

We visited Connecticut last summer. People were lovely and very friendly. we visited Madison which has a lovely beach and visited some of the local areas around there. We had a tyre losing pressure in our hire car, stopped at a local garage who helped us without expecting payment (we did tip). And then we went on to Mystic which was very really lovely. Small community feel to some of the towns.

Very Gilmore girls feel to some of the towns. I didn’t like New Haven where Yale is based, they had a high proportion of homeless with some suffering mental health issues.

I would go for it, if I were you. It’s largely a democratic state and I am a person of colour so if I felt welcome then you should fit in fine. I like America it is a beautiful country and largely it’s the state and district politics that will impact you most. And if the democrats win back the house in the mid-terms that will help too.

C8H10N4O2 · 13/11/2025 11:33

BunnyLake · 13/11/2025 10:01

All I know is the US is the only first world country where people go bankrupt because of the health care system (it’s actually the number one cause of bankruptcy in the US). Absolutely no one outside the US envies your system.

Whereas under the NHS people simply don’t get the treatment, can’t access doctors, we have some of the worst “dread disease” outcomes in Europe and our maternity care is shocking (especially if you are not white).

Interestingly of all the pros and cons listed by family, friends and colleagues taking up long term residence in the US, healthcare never gets a mention, including from a colleague who developed MS a few years after moving and who has a lifetime income from his insurance which many people here would envy.
Its worth noting that some people make an explicit choice not to have insurance or to choose “community” schemes instead, and those bankruptcies by their nature feature people without full insurance as its not compulsory. The rules vary from state to state. The laws in Connecticut, Missouri and Oregon have no more in common than the rules in UK, Poland and Italy. Connecticut is a big blue state with matching policies on health, employment and education (and FaW).

Hopefully, looking at the clock there will be more US living MNers to talk about the realities of US life rather than the scare stories.

hedgehog82 · 13/11/2025 11:33

cyty · 13/11/2025 11:22

The UK is not much better at the moment. And you can always come back if needs be. Seems a no brainer

I’m afraid you are taking things for granted if you don’t think things are very much better here. Granted this country is in a total doom loop, but things could be SO much worse if Trump’s mini-me Farage gets in.

Ohthatsabitshit · 13/11/2025 11:31

cyty · 13/11/2025 11:22

The UK is not much better at the moment. And you can always come back if needs be. Seems a no brainer

Are you missing the women dying for want of a termination? ICE? The separating of children from their families on the border? The rising numbers of gun/knife violence including in schools and universities? The men shot because their colour implies a lower tolerance? The raging drug related hell that is spreading across the entire country? The president sex pest?

How is that reflected here? If you were raped tomorrow and conceived where would you want to be?

suki32 · 13/11/2025 11:26

All those saying it's fine if you're white (or white passing as per OP), speaks volumes to the society we're living in now. I'm so glad you're all able to ignore what is happening to minorities, as long as you and yours are okay. Carry on as normal. Enjoy your little bubble.

cyty · 13/11/2025 11:22

The UK is not much better at the moment. And you can always come back if needs be. Seems a no brainer

Squirrelsnut · 13/11/2025 11:17

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 13/11/2025 09:46

A big house, a pool and more money for Botox. The trade-off being your kids at risk of being shot every day when they go to school.
Sounds like you need to re-think your priorities in life.

This. I'm genuinely amazed the compromises people will consider for money. It's not just that you probably wouldn't be targeted by ICE, it's the fact you would willingly move somewhere that has ICE.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 13/11/2025 11:12

If it was just you and your husband I would say yes. Taking three young kids out there with the gun and drug problems they have. Hell no. Not enough money and big houses in the world. Not to stay you should stay in the UK though. Where else could you move to?

HappyGolmore2 · 13/11/2025 11:12

Waitingfordoggo · 13/11/2025 11:10

Knife crime has declined in the UK in 2025, according to the stats. And despite the popular misconception, there is more knife crime in the US than the UK, per capita. So you’re more likely to be shot and also more likely to be stabbed in the US than the UK. (Although Connecticut may well have better stats than other parts of the States, just as some parts of the UK have better stats than other parts of the UK).

All violent crime is higher in the USA including KNIFE crime, but because their gun deaths are so high- 40k + a year - their knife crime rarely gets a mention.

Waitingfordoggo · 13/11/2025 11:10

Dinoswearunderpants · 13/11/2025 10:00

I love USA so it sounds like a fantastic opportunity. Will the airline help with the immigration side of things?

It could be an incredible opportunity as a family and I'd go for it but I completely understand your reservations.

The states have guns but the knife crime in the UK is getting worse and worse. I'm terrified for my sons future.

Knife crime has declined in the UK in 2025, according to the stats. And despite the popular misconception, there is more knife crime in the US than the UK, per capita. So you’re more likely to be shot and also more likely to be stabbed in the US than the UK. (Although Connecticut may well have better stats than other parts of the States, just as some parts of the UK have better stats than other parts of the UK).

Thecowardlydonkey · 13/11/2025 11:09

Personally I wouldn't because no money is worth sending DC to school and not knowing they are safe. I would also be concerned about safety in the air around America at the moment given the issues with air traffic control. If you are happy with those risks and think the extra money is worth it, then go for it.

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