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AIBU to want child support?

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CandyColouredEggshells · 12/11/2025 14:53

I’ve been separated since April 2024, divorce came through April this year, and with the house sale we both bought our own properties with mortgages. It hasn’t been easy (he was emotionally and psychologically abusive, coercive and just generally not a nice guy, my previous threads are probably here somewhere without going into too much detail) but I managed to sort things.

We have 50/50 custody of DD, and it mostly works. The problem I have is I earn about £50k, and XHB earns about £104k. When we separated he didn’t see why he should pay me child support because “that would make it like I was paying you to look after her and we look after her equally” and said she’d never go without and if she needed something he’d get it. Obviously that isn’t working, he is a typical Disney dad and she gets everything she wants granted, and if I specifically ask he will sometimes get it.

For example in the holidays I bought her school uniform, new bag, pencil case, lunchbox, new coats, and asked him to get her some school shoes and trainers for PE. Which he did. I had to find out through DD because he ignores me now, but she did tell me he was taking her and shoes did appear.

He said he was going to send me money for half her coat but didn’t, I’ve been paying for her dance classes every month since we split up without him contributing and now I’ve forked out £60 on the rehearsals and costumes for the Christmas show and asked him for half and he’s ignored me. The frustrating thing is if he doesn’t see her show DD would be heartbroken so I’ll have to offer him a ticket too (last year I told him I wouldn’t be booking him one without payment upfront and he did eventually send it).

Has anyone dealt with something similar? Don’t have money for solicitors, don’t want to speak to him about it, especially if I’m not really entitled to anything as we do have 50/50 custody. I can get by, it’s just infuriating.

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CandyColouredEggshells · 12/11/2025 23:05

TheatricalLife · 12/11/2025 17:16

Really frustrating, but I doubt there is anything you can do, beyond keep asking and asking for his half. If he isn't willing to make the effort to interact with you, what can you do? Thankfully, beyond co-parenting, he's not your problem anymore, so take that as a massive blessing.
I think the key to handling someone who gets a kick out of control is grey rock. Keep everything extremely basic, cordial and factual. He's probably getting a real kick out of keeping you dangling with money. I'd rather struggle than give him that. My friend once had this with her wealthy ex, and he only started paying his share more often when he was smirking on the doorstep about not paying for something and she said 'oh, I didn't realise you were struggling with your finances, sorry to hear that'. His huge ego couldn't stand that she thought he might be poor and she didn't have so many issues from then on 🤷‍♀️ shows how pathetic and controlling some are.

Completely, I’m torn between being so mad he doesn’t pay his way (he would say he does, he gets her everything she wants, blah blah blah) and being so stubborn that I won’t ever
go cap in hand to that man.

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CandyColouredEggshells · 12/11/2025 23:02

Goodnightreps · 12/11/2025 18:01

He lives with other children?

Erm, dunno how you’ve got here lol, but yes his GF and her DC live there too.

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Enrichetta · 12/11/2025 19:47

Didntask · 12/11/2025 18:04

Then you might still have claims on each others assets...

Including pensions and other investments...

ShesTheAlbatross · 12/11/2025 18:42

ItsOnlyHobnobs · 12/11/2025 17:26

It’s a difficult situation to be in op, I do sympathise.

How old is your daughter?
How does the 50/50 split work practically? One week on, one week off, or a division of the week on a rolling basis?

For things like school uniform, I’ve known friends who. Have bought enough uniform for their care of the child, that stays in their home. When dad is doing school, he can provide uniform.

Yes but if she does that, I imagine he’ll then do the same with the school shoes and PE trainers he bought.

Didntask · 12/11/2025 18:04

CandyColouredEggshells · 12/11/2025 17:03

No

Then you might still have claims on each others assets...

Goodnightreps · 12/11/2025 18:01

He lives with other children?

millymollymoomoo · 12/11/2025 17:28

50:50 on equity is likely to be deemed fair in divorce based on

same housing needs
ops earning level
shared care of child

ItsOnlyHobnobs · 12/11/2025 17:26

It’s a difficult situation to be in op, I do sympathise.

How old is your daughter?
How does the 50/50 split work practically? One week on, one week off, or a division of the week on a rolling basis?

For things like school uniform, I’ve known friends who. Have bought enough uniform for their care of the child, that stays in their home. When dad is doing school, he can provide uniform.

TheatricalLife · 12/11/2025 17:16

Really frustrating, but I doubt there is anything you can do, beyond keep asking and asking for his half. If he isn't willing to make the effort to interact with you, what can you do? Thankfully, beyond co-parenting, he's not your problem anymore, so take that as a massive blessing.
I think the key to handling someone who gets a kick out of control is grey rock. Keep everything extremely basic, cordial and factual. He's probably getting a real kick out of keeping you dangling with money. I'd rather struggle than give him that. My friend once had this with her wealthy ex, and he only started paying his share more often when he was smirking on the doorstep about not paying for something and she said 'oh, I didn't realise you were struggling with your finances, sorry to hear that'. His huge ego couldn't stand that she thought he might be poor and she didn't have so many issues from then on 🤷‍♀️ shows how pathetic and controlling some are.

CandyColouredEggshells · 12/11/2025 17:05

fireandlightening · 12/11/2025 16:54

I feel for you, OP. I am in a similar situation. I try to keep my interaction as minimal as possible with nasty abusive exH, so just take the financial hit. I do not ask him for anything that isn't already covered in the Child Arrangements Order. I am lucky that I can afford it (although he earns many times more than I do) so I just let it go. Hope you can find a way to get through to him or that you can accept that this is the way it will be. Those are the only options to avoid feeling stuck and frustrated.

Thank you, and snap. I can afford it, I manage. But honestly feel like asking if he’s planning on paying anything towards the dance show he’s going to watch her perform in. 😂

I keep thinking if I rise to it he knows I’m stressed or struggling and I’ll do anything to avoid that.

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CandyColouredEggshells · 12/11/2025 17:03

Didntask · 12/11/2025 16:38

Have you signed a consent order?

No

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fireandlightening · 12/11/2025 16:54

I feel for you, OP. I am in a similar situation. I try to keep my interaction as minimal as possible with nasty abusive exH, so just take the financial hit. I do not ask him for anything that isn't already covered in the Child Arrangements Order. I am lucky that I can afford it (although he earns many times more than I do) so I just let it go. Hope you can find a way to get through to him or that you can accept that this is the way it will be. Those are the only options to avoid feeling stuck and frustrated.

Didntask · 12/11/2025 16:38

CandyColouredEggshells · 12/11/2025 16:32

Shrugs
Because I was an absolutely broken woman who just wanted to be allowed to leave, couldn’t afford a divorce solicitor and he dragged his feet over everything else so much I just wanted to be able to start over. If I’d have tried to negotiate on the split of the proceeds of sale he’d have made my life even more miserable.

Just for context, our house sold, I had an offer accepted on my house the week later and six weeks later he was still looking but nothing really seemed right for him. This was just before the stamp duty change and I was desperate to move before the end of March, I went and begged him to move into rented accommodation just temporarily, offered to help help him and help arrange storage and he said no, then he said I was a vile, horrible toxic person and he hoped I was never happy, hoped one day I woke up and realised what I’d done and what I’d thrown away and couldn’t live with myself. So yeah.

Have you signed a consent order?

CandyColouredEggshells · 12/11/2025 16:36

Enrichetta · 12/11/2025 16:32

No personal experience but, sadly, I doubt that you are entitled to CM, given that custody is 50:50, despite the disparity in your earnings.

im wondering, though, if instead of chasing him for his share of individual items, it might be more straightforward if you emailed him a monthly summary of what each of you have spent - obviously focusing on major items rather than day to day expenses.

That would make the disparity in contributions and his need to make up the shortfall crystal clear.

I think you might be right, I’m just frustrated more than anything. If I never had to see him or speak to him again it’d be a relief, and I am stuck between chasing him for half of things again and not engaging with him because he’s horrid.

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Enrichetta · 12/11/2025 16:32

No personal experience but, sadly, I doubt that you are entitled to CM, given that custody is 50:50, despite the disparity in your earnings.

im wondering, though, if instead of chasing him for his share of individual items, it might be more straightforward if you emailed him a monthly summary of what each of you have spent - obviously focusing on major items rather than day to day expenses.

That would make the disparity in contributions and his need to make up the shortfall crystal clear.

CandyColouredEggshells · 12/11/2025 16:32

Didntask · 12/11/2025 16:26

Why were the house proceeds split 50/50? Was there no negotiation for more in your favour considering the disparity in your earnings?

Edited

Shrugs
Because I was an absolutely broken woman who just wanted to be allowed to leave, couldn’t afford a divorce solicitor and he dragged his feet over everything else so much I just wanted to be able to start over. If I’d have tried to negotiate on the split of the proceeds of sale he’d have made my life even more miserable.

Just for context, our house sold, I had an offer accepted on my house the week later and six weeks later he was still looking but nothing really seemed right for him. This was just before the stamp duty change and I was desperate to move before the end of March, I went and begged him to move into rented accommodation just temporarily, offered to help help him and help arrange storage and he said no, then he said I was a vile, horrible toxic person and he hoped I was never happy, hoped one day I woke up and realised what I’d done and what I’d thrown away and couldn’t live with myself. So yeah.

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InterIgnis · 12/11/2025 16:28

CandyColouredEggshells · 12/11/2025 16:16

I think you might be right, because I’ve just read that. Annoying thing is in the calculator there’s a question that asks how much time they spend with the other parent and there is the option to select half and half. And it does say “You will not get child maintenance if the day-to-day care of your child is equal between parents.” CARE, not TIME.

But then again, I’m too scared to do anything beyond text him and ask and then accept when he ignores me. And I don’t want the fight if I have to try and prove what I buy for her, and he’ll just hate me even more then.

The legal definition of ‘care’ here is distinct from your understanding of what it means (that isn’t a criticism of you, this is a common cause of confusion).

Maintenance, or lack thereof, is decided according to the time spent in the care of each parent, day and night.

CandyColouredEggshells · 12/11/2025 16:26

InterIgnis · 12/11/2025 16:22

Where did I personally get it? I have a law degree and worked in the field of family law.

Here are a couple of sources that explain it:
www.stewartslaw.com/news/adjusted-mostyn-f

tvedwards.com/news-and-blogs/blogs/understanding-child-maintenance-and-top-up-orders/

Sorry 😂just asking as I’d not seen THAT on the CM calculator website.

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Didntask · 12/11/2025 16:26

Why were the house proceeds split 50/50? Was there no negotiation for more in your favour considering the disparity in your earnings?

CandyColouredEggshells · 12/11/2025 16:25

Pipersouth · 12/11/2025 16:14

Sorry I read the divorce date wrong (thought it was coming through) . Sadly you don’t get to choose what he spends on anymore unfortunately - obviously it would be nice if you can work together but it doesn’t sound like he wants to.

Ah, I see.

I think you might be right. Yup when we were getting divorced he’d always care about me and always look after us and DD would never go without. When he realised I was actually going to live in a house on my own (don’t know what he thought would happen) he suddenly couldn’t have anything to do with me or remember to pay for school things. That got 100% worse when I met someone about a year after we separated. Trust me the only thing I ever want to interact with him over is DD.

It’s the mind games I hate the most, I paid the deposit on her residential months ago, we needed to pay the balance and he agreed to split it. I would not have been able to afford the full amount on my own, he continuously ignored me and when I caught him in person (went to pick up DD) I had to practically jump up and down in front of him for him to acknowledge me for him to nonchalantly wave his hand and say he’ll sort it. He sent me half the money days before the deadline.

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InterIgnis · 12/11/2025 16:22

CandyColouredEggshells · 12/11/2025 16:09

Thank you, that’s interesting, where did you get this from please?

Where did I personally get it? I have a law degree and worked in the field of family law.

Here are a couple of sources that explain it:
www.stewartslaw.com/news/adjusted-mostyn-f

tvedwards.com/news-and-blogs/blogs/understanding-child-maintenance-and-top-up-orders/

MoFadaCromulent · 12/11/2025 16:21

"If one parent earns £50k and the other earns £100k then would the higher earner not be responsible for more of the cost of the child and so be paying the lower earner?"

You're not a partnership anymore

CandyColouredEggshells · 12/11/2025 16:16

InterIgnis · 12/11/2025 16:12

According to the CMS intro to the calculator:

You will not have anything to pay through the Child Maintenance Service if you are:

  • sharing care equally with the other parent
  • a full-time student with no income
  • in prison

Another MN poster recently ran afoul of blindly trusting the calculator, and not only lost a significant amount of money, but is now likely going to have to pay back the money she did manage to claim from him.

I think you might be right, because I’ve just read that. Annoying thing is in the calculator there’s a question that asks how much time they spend with the other parent and there is the option to select half and half. And it does say “You will not get child maintenance if the day-to-day care of your child is equal between parents.” CARE, not TIME.

But then again, I’m too scared to do anything beyond text him and ask and then accept when he ignores me. And I don’t want the fight if I have to try and prove what I buy for her, and he’ll just hate me even more then.

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Pipersouth · 12/11/2025 16:14

Sorry I read the divorce date wrong (thought it was coming through) . Sadly you don’t get to choose what he spends on anymore unfortunately - obviously it would be nice if you can work together but it doesn’t sound like he wants to.

InterIgnis · 12/11/2025 16:12

CandyColouredEggshells · 12/11/2025 15:54

I did this with our circumstances posing as me (so 50/50 and I earn and he earns) and it said I was entitled to £80 pw. But when I did it posing as him with figures it said he was entitled to £40 pw. So does that theoretically mean that I should be getting £40?

According to the CMS intro to the calculator:

You will not have anything to pay through the Child Maintenance Service if you are:

  • sharing care equally with the other parent
  • a full-time student with no income
  • in prison

Another MN poster recently ran afoul of blindly trusting the calculator, and not only lost a significant amount of money, but is now likely going to have to pay back the money she did manage to claim from him.