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Absolutely furious with son's school.

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ThisMerryCat · 12/11/2025 13:15

Hello, I have a ten year old son, and my primary school has been noticeably bad at even acknowledging he exists. He turns up almost every day, except when the stomach bugs are circling, yet is conveniently overlooked for attendance awards (over 85% attendance is eligible for an award), is never given a speaking role in any of the assemblies or productions, is never chosen for tasks, such as getting equipment from another school, was heartbroken when he wasn't picked for the sports teams, and not given any academic awards, despite the teacher telling me in the last parents' evening that he is in the top 25% of the class. I complained about this last year, when he was repeatedly in tears at home, yet nothing was done, and I have learnt over the weekend it is getting worse. My son told me the teacher doesn't even answer his questions, instead merely stares, and doesn't let him answer questions when his hand is clearly raised. I would get him into clubs, but we have very little money at the moment, and I have discovered his friends, who did make the teams, are drifting away from him. I feel like doing what my mother-in-law describes as 'going full Welsh', but I don't know what else to do. I am very worried for my son, as my previously confident, happy child, now doesn't want to go into school, and I have caught him looking thoroughly miserable when he thinks I'm not looking. Am I being unreasonable if, especially given my previous complaints, I go into the school demanding they give my son the same attention they give everyone else?

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SaltySwimmer · 13/11/2025 20:26

I think you need to explain to him that this is normal.

When I was at school I was average at sport and fairly intelligent but never top of the class. As a result I never got any academic awards and was never picked for sports teams. Yeah it always sucked a bit when my name wasn't called, but that's life, they can't award people just to give them an award. I ended up getting a 1st class degree and working in sport, so life swings around.

As for attendance awards, I'd imagine most of the class has 85% plus attendance, so if that's the cut-off they'd need to give most kids the award to stop them feeling hard done by, which seems a bit daft. I'd have thought it gets given to the 1 or 2 kids with highest attendance.

Okiedokie123 · 13/11/2025 20:22

@ThisMerryCat Im sad for you that yet again, a thread where you as the op has explained the situation very well but a bunch of people have apparently not bothered to read what you’ve said properly. So infuriating.
Presumably he is currently in an English stream class? If he would cope with being in a Welsh class and would like to, yes why not switch - the extra challenge may be good for him and full fluency can’t be a bad thing.
I’ve no advice re the rest though but I do understand how annoying and confusing it must be for both you and him. Is this a new problem this academic year? How was he last year? Hoping things get better. Maybe you could have your own weekly award/celebration for him at home on a Friday tea time? xx

Cricketmadmum · 13/11/2025 20:14

Attendance below 90% is considered persistent and should result in intervention not awards!

Casperroonie · 13/11/2025 19:59

ThisMerryCat · 12/11/2025 13:15

Hello, I have a ten year old son, and my primary school has been noticeably bad at even acknowledging he exists. He turns up almost every day, except when the stomach bugs are circling, yet is conveniently overlooked for attendance awards (over 85% attendance is eligible for an award), is never given a speaking role in any of the assemblies or productions, is never chosen for tasks, such as getting equipment from another school, was heartbroken when he wasn't picked for the sports teams, and not given any academic awards, despite the teacher telling me in the last parents' evening that he is in the top 25% of the class. I complained about this last year, when he was repeatedly in tears at home, yet nothing was done, and I have learnt over the weekend it is getting worse. My son told me the teacher doesn't even answer his questions, instead merely stares, and doesn't let him answer questions when his hand is clearly raised. I would get him into clubs, but we have very little money at the moment, and I have discovered his friends, who did make the teams, are drifting away from him. I feel like doing what my mother-in-law describes as 'going full Welsh', but I don't know what else to do. I am very worried for my son, as my previously confident, happy child, now doesn't want to go into school, and I have caught him looking thoroughly miserable when he thinks I'm not looking. Am I being unreasonable if, especially given my previous complaints, I go into the school demanding they give my son the same attention they give everyone else?

Are you sure about the 85% ?!?!?! That's waaay below persistent absenteeism which is 90% or so. 85% attendance is bordering on Safeguarding.

This really sounds like you are getting the information from your sons perspective only, you need to speak to the school. Going mad at them will only make you look silly, get the facts first.

TheWytch · 13/11/2025 19:48

ThisMerryCat · 12/11/2025 15:51

We are a Welsh family, living in Wales, so expressions like that are part of our vernacular.

I thought you might get some flak for that but it did make me laugh.

It's exactly what my best friend says - she's from the Valleys and when she does go full on Welsh we all run and hide!

Not so much a thing in my part of Wales though

User5306921 · 13/11/2025 19:37

I think rewarding healthy children for being at school all the time is very discriminatory.

Maybe have a chat to your son about how nonsensical the 'award' is and if he understands why its so wrong, he won't want that particular 'award' anyway.

Potentialscroogeincognito · 13/11/2025 19:36

Not read the whole thread and I’m sure someone may have said already but beavers/ cubs might help and is relatively low cost. Also bat shit at school unacceptable.

Acg1991 · 13/11/2025 19:34

I see where your son is coming from... I used to be top of the class academically, sporty etc, but never really got noticed for things because I was quiet and good and I guess the school didn't think I needed the encouragement.
I used to be peed off at the time, but I can honestly say 20 years on that it hasn't psychologically damaged me!
Don't you think your son would feel any award or anything would be cheapened if you had to demand that he be given something?
If the teacher is genuinely completely ignoring him then obviously you need to bring it up with school, but in general people respond far better to calm, measured conversation than they do to someone kicking off. I agree with the person that suggested framing it as "my son doesn't feel seen" as that should make them less defensive.
At my kid's school they each get "star of the week" at least once a year. "Jobs" are rotated at least termly, but again there will be some that miss out on the most popular jobs. And attendance awards are given to all over a certain attendance percentage.

TheDenimPoet · 13/11/2025 19:24

Being in the middle is the worst place to be. The top of the class are rewarded, the bottom of the class are encouraged, but the middle? They're doing fine, but are neither exceptional nor a cause for concern. I would definitely keep fighting and bringing it up with the school. It's horrible to feel ignored.

Mounj25 · 13/11/2025 19:06

If it’s really that bad then I would be moving my child to another school

usedtobeaylis · 13/11/2025 18:58

bigolbananasplit · 13/11/2025 15:43

OMG you're a tosser, tattle was right about this place

I didn't know tattle had things to say about Mumsnet but I imagine they're not wrong. It's a fucking cesspit. Twitter by women.

Cob81 · 13/11/2025 18:56

ThisMerryCat · 12/11/2025 19:06

Sadly, quite often what happens is the adult is the better liar.

Is your son an only child or the youngest? The fact you’re automatically believing his version tells me he’s an only child and you’ve no previous experience with older children how they can be very manipulative, pull at your heart stings, self pity almost daily to gain your attention and sympathy, twist the truth to make them look hard done by!! By any chance has he any SEN? In my experience kids with ADD tend to pull the poor me act a lot, is he very emotion over the silliest things and cry’s or try’s hold back tears when you barely said boo to him over something trivial? Does he feel sorry for himself a lot in daily life at home? I’m just asking as I’m trying to paint a picture in my head. As I said, I have personal experience and find from your explanation that your son has similarities to the kids I’m referring to. I promise you, going in all guns blazing shouting the odds could leave you red faced if you discover his “truth” is massively exaggerated. Speak to your son again, tell him you need to know the EXACT details of what’s being happening but drill into him the importance of truth and how lies can get other people in trouble which isn’t fair and he wouldn’t like if people told lies to get him into trouble, I ALWAYS remind my kids of that, it’s kind of like being a detective, you have to repeatedly ask the same questions and get the statement multiple times before the facts start dripping out and the stories a lot different from when it was first told 😂

usedtobeaylis · 13/11/2025 18:55

How are people still managing to post about the OP's son's attendance incorrectly

usedtobeaylis · 13/11/2025 18:54

LochSunart · 13/11/2025 15:55

Take it from an ex-teacher: children love attention. Just a bit of recognition: that's all it takes. It doesn't have to be a song and dance at an awards ceremony. "Blimey, John - that's a nice piece of work you've done there. I like how you've done x, y and z." Difficult as it is with 25-30 kids in a room, it is the teacher's responsibility to share that attention around because, for a child, not getting any attention is soul-destroying. And I've seen kids' faces light up with just a tiny bit of praise.

If a young teacher is as much of a fool as I was in my early career, they might not understand this need for attention, and might react badly to being told, so the parent has to find someone in the school who will understand the legitimacy of the parent's desire for the child to receive positive attention.

My wee girl absolutely beamed when she came home and told us something the teacher had said to her. It was literally a six word sentence but the teacher had hit on something that meant a lot to her. So simple, but visibly meant more than any certificate or sticker she's ever received.

People think there's something inherently wrong with wanting a bit of praise but none of us wants to go into a work appraisal or performance review and have no positive feedback on what we're doing. Why would kids be any different.

wordler · 13/11/2025 18:42

@ThisMerryCat I realise many posters have misunderstood the 85% attendance thing.

Are you saying that all the kids who are 85% and above are getting attendance certificates apart from your son? If yes, then that's something you would be able to email the school about and get cleared up fairly quickly.

Or do they just reward a small percentage of the top attenders?

When you complained last year, what did the school say to you?

whyayepetal · 13/11/2025 18:02

LochSunart · 13/11/2025 15:55

Take it from an ex-teacher: children love attention. Just a bit of recognition: that's all it takes. It doesn't have to be a song and dance at an awards ceremony. "Blimey, John - that's a nice piece of work you've done there. I like how you've done x, y and z." Difficult as it is with 25-30 kids in a room, it is the teacher's responsibility to share that attention around because, for a child, not getting any attention is soul-destroying. And I've seen kids' faces light up with just a tiny bit of praise.

If a young teacher is as much of a fool as I was in my early career, they might not understand this need for attention, and might react badly to being told, so the parent has to find someone in the school who will understand the legitimacy of the parent's desire for the child to receive positive attention.

Agee with this 100%, and my background is also in primary teaching. My children were often the ones overlooked - they got on with stuff and didn’t fuss. All they really needed was a little word of praise every now and then. When teachers did this, it was always reported back to me, and I could have hugged the (few) teachers concerned.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 13/11/2025 17:59

Unreasonable to be furious and demanding.
Entirely reasonable to request a meeting with the teacher to discuss your child feeling over looked for everything you listed.
Also a good idea to teach striving to do one's best to feel good and not rewards or recognition.

Walkaround · 13/11/2025 17:58

A child with attendance below 90% is classified as a persistent absentee. The only “award” a child with 85% attendance is likely to get is a letter to their parents inviting them to meet the Education Welfare Officer to discuss their child’s poor attendance. Whilst the OP claims her ds is hardly ever absent, she might actually have a very skewed idea of what good attendance looks like if she really thinks a child with 86% attendance should be entitled to a reward for good attendance. If the OP’s ds actually does have attendance below 90%, part of the problem might be he is beginning to notice he is missing out on things and not understanding what is going on in class due to his recent absences.

Phoenixfire1988 · 13/11/2025 17:51

Our school only give out awards for 100% attendance end of last term my son was took bowling for havng 100% for the year , 85% really isn't that great and it sounds like he's off quite a bit .
I think the problem that needs addressing with the teacher is that he now doesn't want to go to school and go from there .

Notsurewhatisnormalanymore · 13/11/2025 17:49

This cannot be true. So for 5+ years. and 5+ different teachers your son has been literally ignored? Wtf?

User5306921 · 13/11/2025 17:27

fireandlightening · 12/11/2025 13:49

I agree with PP, you should calm down and ask them how your son can be further engaged in school. There is no entitlement to academic prizes unless he is at the top of the class (top 25% isn't usually enough) or to be in sports teams (unless he is exceptionally good) or to get attendance (unless he is at near 100%). There are as others said plenty of children who do well and toddle along - and at 10 that is plenty. I would encourage my child to separate external validation from self-worth. If he is a happy, kind, hard-working, loyal child he will have meaningful friendships and make the best of school, and you should applaud him for that.

This is a lovely post.

It resonates with me because I have one child who is a high achiever, struggles with friendships, makes the sports teams yet is quite negative about life in general and another child who is average, doesn't make the school teams, yet ambles along making friends easily and is generally happy with life. Of course they are disappointed when they don't make teams but they are also far more resilient than the high achieving child.

Encourage your child at home. Tell him he is amazing for the qualities that he has and that you must have nurtured at home. Build him up. Life isn't long tearing us down.

FrankSinatraonToast · 13/11/2025 17:21

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 12/11/2025 15:36

85% attendance...top 25%... I expect better from my children.

Parent more. Complain less.

What a nasty response. I'm surprised you didn't end with 'HTH'.

EarthSight · 13/11/2025 17:20

ThisMerryCat · 12/11/2025 15:51

We are a Welsh family, living in Wales, so expressions like that are part of our vernacular.

I'm from Gwynedd and have never heard of this before. Must be an English speaker thing?

RawBloomers · 13/11/2025 17:10

ThisMerryCat · 12/11/2025 19:08

Then the school will have to answer for the psychological damage they have caused.

Here's the thing, OP, they won't. There are almost no circumstances in which the school will be held to account in a meaningful way and certainly not in a way that properly recompenses for any harm.

And that is true of almost all situations your DC will find himself in in life.

So while getting the school to treat him in a way that encourages his love of learning and desire to be there is a great goal and I do think going in to talk with them is important, you should also look at building up his resilience. Improving his internal motivation, his sense of self, his growth mindset, his ability to put disappointment behind him, and his ability to find and focus on the things he likes in whatever situation he's in will make his life much better whatever happens with the school.

MyMiniMetro · 13/11/2025 17:01

Sounds like your kid is average. If he wants accolades he needs to be more than average in a least one thing. That’s life.