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As Rachel Reeves struggles to balance the books, the Royal Family should forgo a £46 million increase in their funding. AIBU?

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User198174 · 12/11/2025 10:25

Due to an increase in Crown Estate profits, the government is set to increase its grant to the Royal Family from £ 86.3 million to £132.1 million.
As the Royal Family appear to be getting by at present on an £86.3 million grant, AIBU to say that they should share in the pain of the national squeeze on finances?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy5lzq94gqo.amp

King Charles in the foreground of the image looks away to the left of the frame, whilst his younger brother Andrew Mountbatten Windsor is seen behind him, slightly out of focus.

Royal finances: Where does the King get his money? - BBC News

The language of Buckingham Palace's statement is "very brutal", royal historian Kelly Swaby tells the BBC.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy5lzq94gqo.amp

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RedTagAlan · 12/11/2025 14:59

Vaxtable · 12/11/2025 14:38

The sovereign grant is only 12% of the crown estate profits (raised at the moment to 25% to cover repairs to Buckingham Palace) and is used for (according to chat)

What is the Sovereign Grant used for
The Sovereign Grant is funded from general taxation / public finances, based on the formula tied to the Crown Estate’s profits. It is used for:

  • The official work of the monarch (as Head of State). GOV.UK+1
  • Running and maintenance of the occupied Royal Palaces used for official purposes. Research Briefings+1
  • Costs of official travel (UK and overseas) by the King and members of the Royal Family when acting on his behalf. Research Briefings+1
  • Staff employment in the Royal Household supporting those duties. Research Briefings+1

and as the RF do a lot of work behind the scene, as the behest of the Foreign Office to help with various matters, trade deals etc and brings in tourism to the country I don’t begrudge them getting it

But my question would actually be what to the Government do with the rest which is a really considerable amount that gets shared across across different things

What do you mean, what would the Government do with the rest ? The rest of what ? I honestly do not know what you mean :-)

It's a strange thing to me, that as the Tories and Reform yell that if the rich folk leave the UK, the entire economy will collapse. Something to do with the fabled trickle down economics.

But the Royals might actually be an example of a rich UK institution that does result in trickle down. The list you provided above show that instead of the Royals stashing their cash in financial mechanisms to make more cash, they really do have to spend it.

That grant money is not lost to the system, it goes straight back into it.

tapaw · 12/11/2025 14:57

£46 million increase? They bring massive interest and tourism. People all over the world are interested in that part of our culture. They come, spend money etc.

That increase is approx 0.01% of our welfare costs - and the welfare costs are the problem. The royal family is a net financial positive and not the problem here.

sittingonabeach · 12/11/2025 14:46

But the balance of the Crown Estates money goes to the Treasury. If the Crown Estates was say owned by Duke of Westminster the taxpayer wouldn't see any of it, apart from any tax paid on the income

80smonster · 12/11/2025 14:40

Surely Reeves is planning a Royal family tax raid, be rude not to. Why not create a Royal tax? Make them pay 85p on £1.

Vaxtable · 12/11/2025 14:38

The sovereign grant is only 12% of the crown estate profits (raised at the moment to 25% to cover repairs to Buckingham Palace) and is used for (according to chat)

What is the Sovereign Grant used for
The Sovereign Grant is funded from general taxation / public finances, based on the formula tied to the Crown Estate’s profits. It is used for:

  • The official work of the monarch (as Head of State). GOV.UK+1
  • Running and maintenance of the occupied Royal Palaces used for official purposes. Research Briefings+1
  • Costs of official travel (UK and overseas) by the King and members of the Royal Family when acting on his behalf. Research Briefings+1
  • Staff employment in the Royal Household supporting those duties. Research Briefings+1

and as the RF do a lot of work behind the scene, as the behest of the Foreign Office to help with various matters, trade deals etc and brings in tourism to the country I don’t begrudge them getting it

But my question would actually be what to the Government do with the rest which is a really considerable amount that gets shared across across different things

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 12/11/2025 14:29

UnhappyHobbit · 12/11/2025 13:26

I don’t believe in getting rid of the royals. This does seem like a huge increase to them however, it depends on how much they are making back for the government/economy as a whole.

Any increase in profit they get goes 75% to the Treasury and 25% to them.

RedTagAlan · 12/11/2025 14:27

We could pay them 500 million a year, and they would still be cheaper than having a Trump as head of State :-)

But seriously, I think it is worth it because having a King is the ultimate check and balance on our elected Parliament.

In theory, the King can sack Parliament, and Parliament can sack the King.

Untested in modern history of course ( but the late Queen did sack the Ozz guv in '75). Hopefully it's a system that means we don't get a Trump.

Idstillratherbepaddleboarding · 12/11/2025 14:24

If they really care about all the charities they claim to support and early years education, they should offer to forgo their raise or refuse it.

XWKD · 12/11/2025 14:21

Oh look, Peasants! They're so cute with their little opinions! Now run along and get me some gin.

Icybird7 · 12/11/2025 14:19

Omg
What the hell are we giving them money for
Which political party is going to do away with this

surreygirly · 12/11/2025 14:14

Just stop foreign aid that is much more than 46 m

5128gap · 12/11/2025 14:12

Cleikumstovies · 12/11/2025 13:42

Leaving aside whether the monarchy should or should not exist. Should those with large wealth bail out a government who has mismanaged their country or bailout a government who has been voted in to govern a mismanaged country by predecessors?

Its not bailing out a government, its chipping in to support the society they are part of. And in the case of the Royals, justify their own roles by a claim of care and service towards.
Its all well and good hoarding wealth beyond the level you could ever need, provided you're content to live in a bubble, closing your eyes and holding your nose in the face of the poverty of those around you.
If the problems caused by deprivation, the crime, the sickness, the ugliness of it never has to cross your radar, you can sit in your luxury and keep your fingers crossed there won't be a revolution.
But the whole point of the Royal family is to be of service to the people, and to be seen to be, and I'm frankly amazed that people don't see the glaring hypocrisy in all their performative charity, while they contine a life of obscene excess on public money.

JacknDiane · 12/11/2025 14:05

Im sorry this is sickening

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 12/11/2025 14:04

Off with their heads! Peado Andy first

Mercurial123 · 12/11/2025 14:03

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 12/11/2025 13:45

How ungrateful! After all the royal family do for us this is the least the government should be doing. I know Prince Andrew has had some bad publicity recently but let's not punish the others .

Lol seriously this has to be a joke. Why should anyone be grateful to a dysfunctional family who live in immense wealth with shady tax policies, suitcases full of cash and a disgraced ex Prince. But you keep doffing your cap.

slowsakura · 12/11/2025 13:58

User198174 · 12/11/2025 13:57

Got to work now (those royal handouts won’t pay for themselves! 🤣) I will be back later.

Grin
slowsakura · 12/11/2025 13:58

Hadalifeonce · 12/11/2025 13:51

Isn't the funding from the crown estates,not the tax payer? Apologies if I have got that wrong. I thought the crown estates is effectively, a property company, and its profits determine the sovereign grant.

They make vast profits from tax payers though, they are often the landlord to public bodies and a very robust and commercial landlord at that.

They also get any property bona vacantia property and really that should go to the government and I think that's a ripe area for reform.

User198174 · 12/11/2025 13:57

Got to work now (those royal handouts won’t pay for themselves! 🤣) I will be back later.

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slowsakura · 12/11/2025 13:55

The crown estate is a very aggressive landlord and lots of it's "profits" will be money collected from public bodies

Mammut · 12/11/2025 13:54

Badbadbunny · 12/11/2025 13:50

£46m is chicken feed. Less than a pound per person living in the UK.

But each every person living in the Uk needs that pound more than the royals surely?

slowsakura · 12/11/2025 13:54

Yanbu.
If they can't afford to maintain their assets they should donate them to the state.

New land for housing , hospitals or even just new parks for people to enjoy as the rest of the country gets built on

It's disgusting that everyone else is asked to tighten their belts but royals don't have to do the same.

jumpingthehighjump · 12/11/2025 13:53

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 12/11/2025 13:45

How ungrateful! After all the royal family do for us this is the least the government should be doing. I know Prince Andrew has had some bad publicity recently but let's not punish the others .

What do they do for us?
For me?

A 48% increase in the sovereign Grant whilst people are struggling so much is a joke

lemonraspberry · 12/11/2025 13:52

AlphaApple · 12/11/2025 10:34

I’d go a step further and disestablish the royal family altogether, nationalise the Crown Estate and their inherited assets. The whole notion of royalty is an anathema.

Get rid of the crown you also need to get rid of the church. The two work side by side. Another man made entity which decides how people should, should not live and known for endless quests for power it does not deserve.

Hadalifeonce · 12/11/2025 13:51

Isn't the funding from the crown estates,not the tax payer? Apologies if I have got that wrong. I thought the crown estates is effectively, a property company, and its profits determine the sovereign grant.

Badbadbunny · 12/11/2025 13:50

£46m is chicken feed. Less than a pound per person living in the UK.