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Help me avoid a falling out with my sister in law

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everytimeifall · 12/11/2025 08:34

My parents provide childcare to my brother and sister in law for their two sons (2 and 6). My dad is older and has had some health issues across the last two years or so. It has been a common theme that when my dad is poorly, she won’t ask how he is but instead immediately ask about whether childcare can go ahead.

I appreciate they need to know, but there’s never even a “how are you feeling?”, just straight to childcare. He’s pulled her up on this before and she has responded with really nasty messages, dismissing his feelings and calling him immature for bringing it up. She says her work is important that’s what matters to her.

last night my dad text the family chat to explain his latest round of tests and she immediately responded with “okay so you can have the boys on Friday?”

im biting my tongue at the minute because my dad isn’t feeling his best but I really want to say something! It’s got to the point that my dad will be in tears because he feels like she doesn’t care about him, but only the childcare.

OP posts:
C152 · 12/11/2025 10:31

Stay out of it, OP. This is between your father, your brother and your SIL. Your parents choose to keep the status quo. You may disagree with this, but it is an active choice on their part. It comes across that your dislike your SIL, which is fine - you don't have to fall out; just be polite whenever you meet up.

everytimeifall · 12/11/2025 10:30

Autumn38 · 12/11/2025 10:29

I’d say it depends on how many messages FIL has sent over the last two years pertaining to his health….

You genuinely think he shouldn’t update his family?

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everytimeifall · 12/11/2025 10:29

Heronwatcher · 12/11/2025 10:25

This is irrelevant.

He should be saying to SIL to give her head a wobble, arranging proper childcare and also making it clear to your parents that they won’t lose contact with the grandkids, irrespective of what his wife has to say about it, because he will bring them to visit on his own.

No reason why he couldn’t be doing this, even if he didn’t realise she was such a nut job. You seem to be making quite a few excuses for him for some reason?

Same way everyone is making excuses for the wife!

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Brefugee · 12/11/2025 10:29

everytimeifall · 12/11/2025 10:00

It all comes from my sister in law though. She values her family over my brother’s

but that's on your bother.
She can'T force your brother to cut off his family just because they can't provide childcare and she is a rude mare.

That will be on him then, to keep up the relationship with his parents.

In your shoes? i would tell my brother that he reins her in, and tells her to treat his father with respect and understanding. And if she continues, you will unleash Your Words On Her and sod the consequences.

Autumn38 · 12/11/2025 10:29

MorrisZapp · 12/11/2025 10:27

No woman on earth, no matter how self centred, would read a message from their in laws about health problems and not reply something like 'oh dear, so sorry to hear that. Should we rearrange Friday?' or similar.

' OK but what about childcare?', nah. I'd have to see that to believe it.

I’d say it depends on how many messages FIL has sent over the last two years pertaining to his health….

RealChristmasBaby · 12/11/2025 10:28

I'm going to be blunt here. Please understand that I certainly sympathise with your parents, your SIL is being horrible and selfish.
However your parents seem to have accepted this treatment from her so they can see their GC. I wouldn't- but they have made that choice.
So if you force SIL to ask how your poor father is, you will all know that nothing has really changed. She is making a moment's choice to be fake polite in order to achieve her ultimate goal of childcare. How is that any better? She won't mean it from her heart.
The only real solution is for your parents to stop childcare to show they won't be treated like that but they won't - so making SIL ostensibly be polite changes nothing in reality does it?

MorrisZapp · 12/11/2025 10:27

No woman on earth, no matter how self centred, would read a message from their in laws about health problems and not reply something like 'oh dear, so sorry to hear that. Should we rearrange Friday?' or similar.

' OK but what about childcare?', nah. I'd have to see that to believe it.

Autumn38 · 12/11/2025 10:26

everytimeifall · 12/11/2025 10:24

Not as stressful as being admitted to hospital

I’ve been admitted to hospital many times. Some things I personally find more stressful- for example my own children’s health. I think mothers have a very different take on life to be honest

Heronwatcher · 12/11/2025 10:25

everytimeifall · 12/11/2025 10:02

Not really? He didn’t know she was like this until they had children!

This is irrelevant.

He should be saying to SIL to give her head a wobble, arranging proper childcare and also making it clear to your parents that they won’t lose contact with the grandkids, irrespective of what his wife has to say about it, because he will bring them to visit on his own.

No reason why he couldn’t be doing this, even if he didn’t realise she was such a nut job. You seem to be making quite a few excuses for him for some reason?

Autumn38 · 12/11/2025 10:25

everytimeifall · 12/11/2025 10:21

I mean, he’s just asking his kids to check in on how he is when he’s admitted to hospital rather than immediately only asking and caring about childcare!

Every time though? Also, presumably when he is texting in the group chat, he is actually ok.

ive got to be honest ive actually got a FIL who is similar and the running commentary of his health problems does become a bit overwhelming sometimes. I care about him a lot actually, but I’m already keeping track of so much that I really only want to know if something needs to be done. If it’s just for info, I’m actually ok to hear of it when I see him.

everytimeifall · 12/11/2025 10:24

Autumn38 · 12/11/2025 10:21

My father is also elderly and has heart failure. When I ask how he is he says ‘keeping on keeping on, love. How are you?’ Because he is aware that being a mum to small kids with a full time job is also tough and doesn’t like to burden me overly. He knows I care and doesn’t need constant texts from me to reassure him of that.

Not as stressful as being admitted to hospital

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Fluffyholeysocks · 12/11/2025 10:23

If I were you, I'd ignore her comment about whether they can do child care and really go to town on the group showing concern about your DF'S health. If need be get your DP to pop in a comment too to show sympathy. Totally ignore the childcare comment from her and advise your parents to leave her hanging with a 'oh we'll have to see, I'm sure we all want Dad fit and well as soon as possible'.

sunsu · 12/11/2025 10:22

everytimeifall · 12/11/2025 10:19

I’m not protecting him. But he at least does ask how dad is and doesn’t send my dad horrible messages while he’s in hospital!

Sorry OP but that’s the bare minimum. He still backs up his wife and calls your dad childish, he’s just as bad! I do think your anger should be directed at your DB for not speaking to his wife about the way she treats his family.

For what it’s worth, I think she sounds absolutely awful. I probably wouldn’t be able to hold my tongue and would call it out in the chat. But DB is equally as responsible.

everytimeifall · 12/11/2025 10:22

Autumn38 · 12/11/2025 10:17

Also, is everyone posting their problems on the group chat for people to be ever so empathetic about, or is it just your dad??

He uses it as a place to update all of his children, his grandson (who is in his 20s) and his in laws as opposed to repeating the same conversation five times.

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Perruquier · 12/11/2025 10:22

nomas · 12/11/2025 10:18

Why do you keep making SIL a scapegoat? Your brother agrees with her yet you all protect him like a mother hen.

I see this all the time on here, though. An OP blaming the sibling’s spouse, not the sibling, for presumably joint behaviour — I imagine it’s easier to project onto the non-blood relative, assume the blood relative has no agency, as well as a weird, gendered assumption that women are responsible for family relationships.

Otherwise, as in this case, the OP would have to acknowledge that her brother is exploiting his own parents.

Autumn38 · 12/11/2025 10:21

saraclara · 12/11/2025 10:19

Dad is elderly and is likely to have more health issues than his kids. But I see nothing in OP 's posts to indicate that no-one else feels able to share that they're unwell.

My father is also elderly and has heart failure. When I ask how he is he says ‘keeping on keeping on, love. How are you?’ Because he is aware that being a mum to small kids with a full time job is also tough and doesn’t like to burden me overly. He knows I care and doesn’t need constant texts from me to reassure him of that.

everytimeifall · 12/11/2025 10:21

Autumn38 · 12/11/2025 10:19

It sounds like the men of the family are used to being mollycoddled to be honest. Everyone having to be ever so thoughtful to dad as he’s been having health problems whilst presumably everyone else has been problem free for the last two years?

I mean, he’s just asking his kids to check in on how he is when he’s admitted to hospital rather than immediately only asking and caring about childcare!

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everytimeifall · 12/11/2025 10:19

nomas · 12/11/2025 10:18

Why do you keep making SIL a scapegoat? Your brother agrees with her yet you all protect him like a mother hen.

I’m not protecting him. But he at least does ask how dad is and doesn’t send my dad horrible messages while he’s in hospital!

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saraclara · 12/11/2025 10:19

Autumn38 · 12/11/2025 10:17

Also, is everyone posting their problems on the group chat for people to be ever so empathetic about, or is it just your dad??

Dad is elderly and is likely to have more health issues than his kids. But I see nothing in OP 's posts to indicate that no-one else feels able to share that they're unwell.

Autumn38 · 12/11/2025 10:19

nomas · 12/11/2025 10:18

Why do you keep making SIL a scapegoat? Your brother agrees with her yet you all protect him like a mother hen.

It sounds like the men of the family are used to being mollycoddled to be honest. Everyone having to be ever so thoughtful to dad as he’s been having health problems whilst presumably everyone else has been problem free for the last two years?

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 12/11/2025 10:18

Again, how likely is it that she will completely withhold the children? She is relying on your DP for childcare, which indicates her own family don't have a lot of spare time or the ability - would she REALLY cut off her nose to spite her face?

nomas · 12/11/2025 10:18

everytimeifall · 12/11/2025 10:15

I think she is when she’s been repeatedly told what my dad would like and she ignores it and is downright horrible to him when he asks! Being tactless is one thing but when she starts calling him childish etc for vocalising his feelings it’s another

Why do you keep making SIL a scapegoat? Your brother agrees with her yet you all protect him like a mother hen.

Butchyrestingface · 12/11/2025 10:17

everytimeifall · 12/11/2025 08:48

They won’t change it because they know if they do, they won’t see the boys and they adore them.

Well then, your brother is as awful as his wife. They're probably well matched.

Allswellthatendswelll · 12/11/2025 10:17

inigomontoyahwillcox · 12/11/2025 09:08

I do get those saying stay out of it - but I have to agree with the poster that you have less to lose than your parents if you were to step in to defend them.

I would call them out about the potential weaponisation of the kids before they do it, which may possibly shame them into not doing it. Something along the lines of "I need to step in here, as <parents> are desperately scared that they may not get to see their grandchildren at all if they don't continue to look after them. We've reached the stage where regularly looking after the boys is having a detrimental effect on them, and in particular, Dad. He is elderly, ill and has already ended up in hospital due to catching an infection from one of the boys, Mum is caring for him and cannot be responsible for an adult and 2 young children. This simply cannot continue. I appreciate that you need regular and reliable childcare, but you need to be looking elsewhere for this."

I kind of agree with this as it sounds like falling out with the SIL would be no great loss to the OP! And it sounds like someone needs to say it.

Autumn38 · 12/11/2025 10:17

Also, is everyone posting their problems on the group chat for people to be ever so empathetic about, or is it just your dad??