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To wonder if people prefer the last government to this one?

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malificent7 · 12/11/2025 05:58

The amount of people who are saying they hate this government and would vote reform.
So let me get this straight: many would rather vote for someone who was a member of the facist party at university than labour? Er...ok then. It seems to me that most people are fairly racist and blame others for the state of the economy; immigrants, the disabled, sinle parents, working class etc.

The last government gave us Brexit which was a nightmare and landed us in the shit economically.
At least the roads are getting repaired under labour which is a tangible use of my taxes....and yet people moan about paying more taxes.

Im not saying Labour are amazing...tjey are not but are they worse than the tories?

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RobustPastry · 12/11/2025 10:14

HoskinsChoice · 12/11/2025 09:41

It was a referendum, not the Tory's. The public gave us brexit. Labour was a disaster through that period - they should have stood strong and opposed it but instead they flapped around and sat on the wall, (mostly because Corbyn was openly anti-Europe decades before the word 'Brexit' had been invented). Only the lib dems were brave enough to opposed it and, sadly, they don't have enough voice so nobody listened. We also have no idea what Labour would have agreed for us if they had been in control so there is no evidence that we would be better off with them. I'm very happy to pick holes in the Tories, I certainly didn't vote for them, but to blame them is just illogical bias (or stupidity/denial).

No Beexit squarely rests on the Tories. How can you say otherwise?
Cameron wanted to stop the moaning in the party by the UKIpper types and feared a leadership challenge so he gave as a sop a manifesto commitment to hold a referendum and they held him to it.
Sheer political ego and Party Before Country which is how the Tories always operate. This country had no understanding of what a non binding referendum would really mean because no roadmap was given in advance. It didn’t exist. Nobody really knew what Brexit would mean for us. For many it was just a fuck you vote against the Cameron Government. For loads of different reasons.
Now we’re paying the price and that manifesto commitment is what started it and that’s why Cameron resigned the next day after the vote. I hope he feels ashamed of himself every day of his life. And all of the Tories involved in Brexit. The billions lost to the economy, the social division, it’s absolutely shameful.

Fairyliz · 12/11/2025 10:09

malificent7 · 12/11/2025 06:09

In my area all the roads are being resurfaced...no more potholes.

Are they, where do you live and can they send them to my area next.
Ive not noticed any improvement in the roads around here in the last year; the massive potholes are getting worse.

RedRiverShore5 · 12/11/2025 10:06

I would much rather have Sunak and Hunt back

WellYouWereMythTaken · 12/11/2025 10:03

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 12/11/2025 06:04

The current government is a shit show.

But the Tories were an even shittier show, and Reform would be a fucking sewer.

I've heard a lot of people saying that they might vote Reform because "things can't get any worse". Er, yes they can... and will if people are stupid enough to elect them.

I will be voting for the least worst option at the next election, and for whichever party is most likely to keep Reform out.

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Yep. All of this.

Anyone who thinks Reform is the answer to our problems is wronger than marmite yogurt. The Tories are and have been a toilet for my entire life just get progressively worse.

I don’t know who I’ll be voting for next time. I voted Labour (always do) and while I don’t regret it I am pissed off with them.

x2boys · 12/11/2025 10:01

malificent7 · 12/11/2025 05:58

The amount of people who are saying they hate this government and would vote reform.
So let me get this straight: many would rather vote for someone who was a member of the facist party at university than labour? Er...ok then. It seems to me that most people are fairly racist and blame others for the state of the economy; immigrants, the disabled, sinle parents, working class etc.

The last government gave us Brexit which was a nightmare and landed us in the shit economically.
At least the roads are getting repaired under labour which is a tangible use of my taxes....and yet people moan about paying more taxes.

Im not saying Labour are amazing...tjey are not but are they worse than the tories?

The Tories were decimated in the last election they are gone and I can,t see them being reelected anytime soon
However nothing has gone right for labour since they got into power and they seem to limping from one disaster to another so where does that leave us ?

RainbowBagels · 12/11/2025 09:58

Boomer55 · 12/11/2025 06:04

Labour are worse than hopeless, and I regret voting for them.

And now there seems to be some sort of internal coup going on, so that they can oust Starmer and Reeves.

So, it’ll be the Tories Part Two, by another name. 🙄

What roads, and where? 🤷‍♀️

I regret voting for them now too. I actually do think Sunak would have been better. Fwiw I don't think the problem is the government per se but they are weak and being held to ransom by backbenchers that they can't control and who feel no loyalty to the government. It's a problem they have always had, that was then copied by the Tories and caused their destruction (and included Brexit). Labour haven't learnt. They are a part made up of factions who hate each other and would rather be in opposition than have a Labour government of another faction.

LizzieW1969 · 12/11/2025 09:54

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 12/11/2025 08:12

It was the Tory government that decided to give us a referendum asking a very simple question about a complex matter that most of the electorate didn't understand. Hence loads of people googling "What is the EU" on the day after the vote.

And they gave us that referendum, not because they believed that it was any sort of democratic imperative to put the question to the country, but because they thought it would shut up the eurosceptics in their own party.

The Tory government at the time was far too complacent in assuming that the public wouldn't be so stupid as to vote for a colossal act of national self harm, and they failed to make a strong enough case for Remain. Theresa May then came in with her ridiculous and meaningless statement that "Brexit means Brexit", steering us towards an unnecessarily hard Brexit despite the closeness of the referendum vote. And then we had Boris with his "oven-ready" deal that turned out to be a complete botch job.

Yes, the people who voted for Brexit must accept some accountability for their choices - they made a terrible decision. And yes, the Labour Party must bear its share of the responsibility for having failed to make a stronger case in favour of Remain. Yes, Farage and his cronies must take a share of the blame for his anti-EU rhetoric and the politics that pushed the Tories towards their disastrous decision in the first place. But the Tories were ultimately accountable for what happened, and they must take the largest share of the blame. And many people will never forgive them.

The reason why Labour didn’t make a strong case for Remain was that at heart Jeremy Corbyn was a Eurosceptic and always had been. I always have felt that if he had got behind the Remain campaign there might have been a different result. Because a lot of Labour voters did vote Leave.

I blame both the major parties for Brexit.

SunnyViper · 12/11/2025 09:54

Cel77 · 12/11/2025 07:06

I like them They're sensible, addressing the big issues of the country, decent, not trying to grab headlines with unverified dramatic claims. They're pragmatic and looking at long term solutions.
They know what they're doing, work hard and don't spend their time pandering to the tabloids.

I hope we never see Reform up there because it will be an absolute sh*t show with all of them running like headless chickens, infighting, blaming everyone for their shortcomings, not getting anything done properly

The Tories ? Nah...

This one is fine. It feels like the country is run by sensible grown-ups . It hasn't been for years.

Interesting that you see it that way. I am a lifelong Labour supporter but I think this lot are a total shitshow with Keir being one of the most disingenuous people I’ve come across.

Freysimo · 12/11/2025 09:54

Cynic17 · 12/11/2025 09:22

Of course I prefer the last Government. They weren't perfect, but they had the right general ideas. Whereas this lot have no clue..... I thought Wes Streeting might take a grip of the NHS and bring in the private sector much more, but not sure that has happened.

I had hopes for Wes, as he gets that the NHS needs massive reform, not throwing money at, but think he's been constrained by Starmer and the sacred cow that is the NHS.

vellichoria · 12/11/2025 09:52

I don't think that the last government or the one before it were better than what we have now. Nothing that we experience now is a result of any kind of 24-hour job. It's all a result of policies and work conducted not just by the current government but by all previous governments. For example, if there is such a problem as the 50bn hole in the public finances, then it certainly wasn't created by this government alone. NHS issues haven't been caused by this government alone (just revisit the Guardian headlines on the NHS for the last 15 years and you will see what's been happening for yourself, not to mention that most of us probably had personal experiences with the local A&E). Similarly, all other issues: education, police service, fire service and every public service seem to be falling apart all the time and no amount of money is ever enough to fix them.

I have zero confidence in the current government and, to be honest looking at the folk we have to choose from pretty low confidence in the immediate future with the next government whoever it happens to be.

HoskinsChoice · 12/11/2025 09:49

Papyrophile · 12/11/2025 09:34

Our roads remain in a shocking condition but I don't hold the government responsible because roads are the responsibility of the local council.

But this current government will, I predict, be remembered for its sheer economic incompetence and its ruthless pursuit of even small financial successes.

Agree on the economic incompetence. It has always been thought that Labour are economically incompetent but the Tories are the nasty party for not spending money. After so long under Tory rule, I think the public had forgotten that Labour are famed for wasting money. The irony is that they are actually cutting costs in our public services, more than the Tories did in the NHS, which goes against that theory but all of the savings made will be wasted by stimulating job losses, paying out for waspis, removing the 2 child cap, not sticking to their winter fuel, throwing money at NHS pay (which has massively backfired as they've just come back for more!) etc etc. It's a very worrying time!

GeneralPeter · 12/11/2025 09:49

malificent7 · 12/11/2025 05:58

The amount of people who are saying they hate this government and would vote reform.
So let me get this straight: many would rather vote for someone who was a member of the facist party at university than labour? Er...ok then. It seems to me that most people are fairly racist and blame others for the state of the economy; immigrants, the disabled, sinle parents, working class etc.

The last government gave us Brexit which was a nightmare and landed us in the shit economically.
At least the roads are getting repaired under labour which is a tangible use of my taxes....and yet people moan about paying more taxes.

Im not saying Labour are amazing...tjey are not but are they worse than the tories?

Who was a member of the fascist party at university?

I’d be very wary of supporting anyone who had been, but that sounds made up.

And, though I’d still be very wary, people can evolve. There have been prominent UK politicians who were members of an explicitly totalitarian party at university, and they are mostly Labour figures. Jack Straw, John Reid, Charles Clarke, Peter Mandelson, for example.

HelpMeGetThrough · 12/11/2025 09:47

malificent7 · 12/11/2025 06:09

In my area all the roads are being resurfaced...no more potholes.

Highways in your local authority have money they need to spend before financial year end, so they are going to “fix” all the potholes with shite materials.

Before you know it, the roads will be fucked again and they’ll say there is no budget to repair them.

I saw this type of thing happening endlessly when I worked for a LA.

Statesider · 12/11/2025 09:47

The tories weren’t that great, but at least Boris was funny and Rishi was nice to look at. Kier Starmer is terrible and also utterly boring.

Dgll · 12/11/2025 09:42

I think the Conservative party really deserved to be voted out but this lot are far worse for me.

HoskinsChoice · 12/11/2025 09:41

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 12/11/2025 06:27

The Tories absolutely did give us Brexit. Cameron chose to hold a stupid referendum in a failed attempt to get his own party in order. May and Johnson between them then led us into the hard version of Brexit that we eventually ended up with, which has done untold damage to our economy. And no, Brexit isn't "history" - it is very much reflected in our present woes. We can't change the past, but the fuckers responsible should at the very least be held accountable.

It was a referendum, not the Tory's. The public gave us brexit. Labour was a disaster through that period - they should have stood strong and opposed it but instead they flapped around and sat on the wall, (mostly because Corbyn was openly anti-Europe decades before the word 'Brexit' had been invented). Only the lib dems were brave enough to opposed it and, sadly, they don't have enough voice so nobody listened. We also have no idea what Labour would have agreed for us if they had been in control so there is no evidence that we would be better off with them. I'm very happy to pick holes in the Tories, I certainly didn't vote for them, but to blame them is just illogical bias (or stupidity/denial).

BunnyLake · 12/11/2025 09:41

I suppose it all depends on your shit preference, bullshit, horseshit or dogshit?

Papyrophile · 12/11/2025 09:34

Our roads remain in a shocking condition but I don't hold the government responsible because roads are the responsibility of the local council.

But this current government will, I predict, be remembered for its sheer economic incompetence and its ruthless pursuit of even small financial successes.

DraftLovely · 12/11/2025 09:27

WrigglyDonCat · 12/11/2025 06:13

Wow , all of them? What magical area is this? Is it not inconvenient having works on all the roads in the whole area at the same time?

Or can I sniff some serious hyperbole on the wind?

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The pot holes are being done in our area as well. The roads being blocked off has been very annoying but they have been done other the last few months and usually at night. It is an absolute delight!

PandoraSocks · 12/11/2025 09:23

CaptainMyCaptain · 12/11/2025 08:56

Absolutely this. My disappointment with this government is that it's not socialist enough.

Quite. The narrative that Starmer and co. are rabid commies is laughable.

Cynic17 · 12/11/2025 09:22

Of course I prefer the last Government. They weren't perfect, but they had the right general ideas. Whereas this lot have no clue..... I thought Wes Streeting might take a grip of the NHS and bring in the private sector much more, but not sure that has happened.

Florencesndzebedee · 12/11/2025 09:21

Vaxtable · 12/11/2025 09:17

The roads aren't getting repaired where I am!

Any sensible person with a memory told people what would happen if there was a Labour government but people went ahead and voted them in

But even I didn’t realise just how bad they would get, I didn’t think it was possible after the last Labour Government but here we are! Rachel has to be the most useless Chancellor in history and it’s only going to get worse after November

I know people moan about the Tories but austerity was down to the Labour government leaving the country in a mess. Compounded by giving people a vote for Brexit and the pandemic which no one predicted.

But as was said at Brexit people voted them in, so those who did can’t moan now

Er… I think you’ve forgotten Kwasi Kwarteng?

BlissfullyBlue · 12/11/2025 09:20

I have been a lifelong labour voter but Rachel Reeves is going to run the country’s economy into the ground. We are all going to be a lot worse off.

CrocodileJen · 12/11/2025 09:20

Yes I much prefer the last government, useless as they were when it came to Brexit and Covid. Labour are far worse but then it was always obvious that they would be. I’ve never voted Labour and never will. And yes, I intensely dislike Farage but I would still vote for him to get Labour out if there was an election tomorrow. If you think that makes me a racist then I’m fine with that. I’m more concerned with the dire state of the economy than ideologies at this point.

LondonPapa · 12/11/2025 09:18

malificent7 · 12/11/2025 05:58

The amount of people who are saying they hate this government and would vote reform.
So let me get this straight: many would rather vote for someone who was a member of the facist party at university than labour? Er...ok then. It seems to me that most people are fairly racist and blame others for the state of the economy; immigrants, the disabled, sinle parents, working class etc.

The last government gave us Brexit which was a nightmare and landed us in the shit economically.
At least the roads are getting repaired under labour which is a tangible use of my taxes....and yet people moan about paying more taxes.

Im not saying Labour are amazing...tjey are not but are they worse than the tories?

I prefer the last government. Labour are rank and file amateurs. Starmer is the absolute worst as a leader and I’m not surprised he’s fighting off a challenge before the budget. The budget will be a shitshow.