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To wonder if people prefer the last government to this one?

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malificent7 · 12/11/2025 05:58

The amount of people who are saying they hate this government and would vote reform.
So let me get this straight: many would rather vote for someone who was a member of the facist party at university than labour? Er...ok then. It seems to me that most people are fairly racist and blame others for the state of the economy; immigrants, the disabled, sinle parents, working class etc.

The last government gave us Brexit which was a nightmare and landed us in the shit economically.
At least the roads are getting repaired under labour which is a tangible use of my taxes....and yet people moan about paying more taxes.

Im not saying Labour are amazing...tjey are not but are they worse than the tories?

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BritHoward · 12/11/2025 20:25

We couldn't have had the Tories in again as they were a complete shit show - I don't think this Gov are doing a lot better but it was worth taking the risk - but where to go to next - definitely not Reform. I think I'll really struggle getting behind any party.

kirinm · 12/11/2025 20:19

There’s a lot of rewriting of history going on here! Brexit the fault of Labour (!!!)

RubySquid · 12/11/2025 20:10

malificent7 · 12/11/2025 06:09

In my area all the roads are being resurfaced...no more potholes.

You are lucky. Mine are all being dug up. Not sure it's much to go with the government though,

RainbowBagels · 12/11/2025 20:08

I voted Labour because I thought they would at the very least invest in infrastructure and in industry, have a better relationship with the EU which would stimulate growth and pay for things. But they seem to have done none of that. They are being held to ransom by their own backbenchers despite having a stonking majority, and as a result have made damaging and expensive u-turns, making things worse than they were before the decisions. It just gives a terrible impression of a government that just wont be able to achieve anything, because their own party is acting as the official opposition.

nearlylovemyusername · 12/11/2025 19:48

Rosiecidar · 12/11/2025 18:01

I voted Labour at the last election, for the first time in many years. I wish I hadn’t. This is a very left wing government. It seems to have the mentality that behaviour of companies and individuals won’t change no matter how hard you tax or over legislate. The moment that the NIC for employers increased, workers rights increased and min wage increased the less likely employers became to take on risks with staff. Smaller businesses near me reduced staff hours rather than make staff redundant. Push too hard and businesses start finding ways to mitigate. The increase in unemployment is appalling.

Just curios - why did you vote for them? to get Tories out no matter what? or did you expect something different from Labour?

MyLimeGuide · 12/11/2025 18:47

FranticSemantics · 12/11/2025 10:29

You know that's been discredited, dont you?

How can it be discredited?!! It happened.

BurntBroccoli · 12/11/2025 18:24

InveterateWineDrinker · 12/11/2025 18:03

Labour's formal policy position was to remain, and if it had wholeheartedly campaigned to remain and made the case for it then it's likely that enough 'red wall' voters would have voted remain to tip the balance too.

Put simply, that cunt Corbyn sabotaged Labour's contribution to the remain campaign because he personally was opposed to it.

Absolutely nothing would have changed the minds of those red wall voters.

It’s the same now with them supporting Farage and Reform.

tommyhoundmum · 12/11/2025 18:23

traintonowheretoday · 12/11/2025 06:04

Yes I prefer the last government

I liked Rishi Sunak.

Both Governments have very similar problems.

I would like all the infighting to stop and for them to get on with their jobs quietly.

InveterateWineDrinker · 12/11/2025 18:03

BurntBroccoli · 12/11/2025 17:49

Why are you trying to blame Labour for Brexit? It was a Tory decision to hold the referendum in the first place! Stupidity.

Labour's formal policy position was to remain, and if it had wholeheartedly campaigned to remain and made the case for it then it's likely that enough 'red wall' voters would have voted remain to tip the balance too.

Put simply, that cunt Corbyn sabotaged Labour's contribution to the remain campaign because he personally was opposed to it.

Rosiecidar · 12/11/2025 18:01

I voted Labour at the last election, for the first time in many years. I wish I hadn’t. This is a very left wing government. It seems to have the mentality that behaviour of companies and individuals won’t change no matter how hard you tax or over legislate. The moment that the NIC for employers increased, workers rights increased and min wage increased the less likely employers became to take on risks with staff. Smaller businesses near me reduced staff hours rather than make staff redundant. Push too hard and businesses start finding ways to mitigate. The increase in unemployment is appalling.

scalt · 12/11/2025 17:56

BurntBroccoli · 12/11/2025 17:49

Why are you trying to blame Labour for Brexit? It was a Tory decision to hold the referendum in the first place! Stupidity.

I think Cameron called the referendum hoping that the result would be Remain, and he could knight himself as the one who put the issue to bed once and for all.

He didn’t follow the advice of a pupil on Grange Hill in about 1988: “They’ll only call a referendum when they’re certain they’ll get the result they want!”

coolmum123 · 12/11/2025 17:55

RosesAndHellebores · 12/11/2025 06:22

The last government did not give us Brexit. There was a referendum and the British people voted for, and by a small margin, gave us Brexit. Brexit is history and if anyone thinks we would be better off had we stayed in Europe just look at the economic state of France, Germany and many other members of federal Europe.

The Conservatives did not deserve to remain in power at the last election but Labour have reverted to type and are gravely and grossly mismanaging the economy. The NI increase, particularly the lowering of the threshold to £5k, has plugged growth and resulted in job losses.

Where we are now was inevitable. I have never voted Labour and never shall because I am old enough to remember the 1970s shit show. Neither shall I ever vote Reform.

It may be helpful if the Liberals could possibly spare some thought for policy and strategy and share it with us. Ed Davey is a genuinely nice man and has worked tirelessly in his constituency but he shows no sign of leading the Libs into government.

Personally, I'm not keen on Kemi but presently she's the best bet.

This. I won’t be voting Labour anytime soon. I liked Rishi Sunak and he was right about what this government would do.

BurntBroccoli · 12/11/2025 17:49

InveterateWineDrinker · 12/11/2025 16:17

Jeremy Corbin gave us Brexit by agreeing to front the Remain campaign on behalf of the Labour party and then giving every impression he supported Leave.

Why are you trying to blame Labour for Brexit? It was a Tory decision to hold the referendum in the first place! Stupidity.

InveterateWineDrinker · 12/11/2025 16:17

bottledboot · 12/11/2025 15:34

The last government did not give us Brexit. There was a referendum.

They did a shit job of explaining the pros of staying in!

Jeremy Corbin gave us Brexit by agreeing to front the Remain campaign on behalf of the Labour party and then giving every impression he supported Leave.

kalokagathos · 12/11/2025 15:51

I prefer this government to the last one but didn’t vote for it (voted Liberal Democrats). I will be voting Greens next time unless there’s some major scandal in that house. Reform is beneath me 😱😱

lostintranslation148 · 12/11/2025 15:41

The massive problem we've had in the country for a pretty long time is that there's no one worth voting for.

The only time I bother voting is to try to keep someone out. I'll be voting in the next election to try to keep Farage out but god knows who I'll vote for.

bottledboot · 12/11/2025 15:38

@Ticklyoctopus you are aware that NEET numbers are lower than the past?

bottledboot · 12/11/2025 15:35

@Ticklyoctopus in 15 years we don't know what will happen to NEETs, how can that be more pressing than the ageing population which is impacting us now?

bottledboot · 12/11/2025 15:34

The last government did not give us Brexit. There was a referendum.

They did a shit job of explaining the pros of staying in!

BurntBroccoli · 12/11/2025 15:33

JulianClarysDog · 12/11/2025 15:08

The last government did not give us Brexit. There was a referendum.

They offered the public a vote to appease their own back benchers including Farage!

Remember UKIP under Farage? They had surged in popularity, especially after 2010. In the 2014 European Parliament elections, UKIP won the most UK seats, pushing both Labour and the Conservatives into second and third place.
This electoral pressure forced David Cameron, then Prime Minister, to promise an EU referendum in the 2015 Conservative manifesto. This is widely seen as a response to UKIP’s rise and to appease them.

BurntBroccoli · 12/11/2025 15:26

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 12/11/2025 10:39

@malificent7 ,
“So let me get this straight: many would rather vote for someone who was a member of the facist party at university”
Could you provide evidence of this please? I’m aware that the propaganda machine is in full force where Mr Farage and the Reform Party are concerned. I have actually searched for some time to find any information about this.
The only thing I can find is that when he was 13 years old he was suggested to his headmaster as a prefect and another teacher who didn’t even personally know him objected because they said they had heard he was a Facist.

It really is quite unacceptable to throw around unsubstantiated accusations of this type and more fool anyone who believes them without fact checking. Was that what you were hoping for?

Have you read this account?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-fascist-nazi-song-gas-them-all-ukip-brexit-schoolfriend-dulwich-college-a7185236.html

To wonder if people prefer the last government to this one?
To wonder if people prefer the last government to this one?
Ciribiner · 12/11/2025 15:16

Your vote choice isn't clear.

I absolutely can't stand Starmer. He doesn't have any respect for the UK or it's people. He doesn't know what a woman is. I can't even put into words how much I hate him. No politician has ever made me seeth and my skin crawl like he does. I have to turn the TV off every time he comes on, always have done. I didn't and would never vote for him and will vote for anyone to get him and his traitorous cabinet out of government.

Everanewbie · 12/11/2025 15:11

GasPanic · 12/11/2025 14:41

I suppose you can pretty much view any tax as "a great big jealousy tax on success".

So maybe we should all stop paying any taxes then.

Or recognise that good services require higher levels of taxation.

I don't think it is practical to tax income more, because that is tapped out and it disproportionately hits those with the least money.

There is an enormous amount of wealth to be taxed from the UK middle class and the government needs to grow a pair and get hold of it.

Generally I view that there should be a basic set of stuff that isn't taxed. And everything above that should be. So a basic car, no. An SUV for the damage it does, yes. A basic house no, a large mansion yes.

What is your definition of a mansion? grounds? Square footage? Value?

Do you think it is not enough that a hospital consultant (for example, insert entrepreneur, accountant, civil servant, MP as you prefer) who worked around the click for years and financed their own exams, finally qualifies, gets a salary of £125,000 but only takes home £78,000? Is £47,000 in tax not enough for you?

In your little communist utopia, this person would also pay double or more council tax on their band G house and more tax on their Nissan Qashqai. And if they managed to save a few quid they can pay even greater CGT and an arbitrary annual wealth tax.

Not a penny more, the middle classes are being pretty well rinsed as it is.

JulianClarysDog · 12/11/2025 15:08

The last government did not give us Brexit. There was a referendum.

Ticklyoctopus · 12/11/2025 15:07

Because in about 15 years we will have record NEETS as well as a huge elderly population.