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KeepDancing1 · 12/11/2025 13:26

musicalfrog · 11/11/2025 22:48

Maybe they were busy dealing with their families?

There was no social media then, people were far less informed.

I mean, I was busy being a teenager, and I managed to know all about it! The news was inescapable, with endless coverage in the newspapers and on every TV discussion show (I remember my parents always being glued to Central Weekend on a Friday night) and every local and national radio station. That’s why so many of us born in the 1970s have always been cynical about our own state pension prospects

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 12/11/2025 13:26

passporti · 12/11/2025 13:25

Probably already been said but ime the reason most younger people get p*ssed off by this is because we’ve barely any hope of home ownership, despite being sold the dream of better careers/salaries than our parents generation by attending university this hasn’t eventuated, most younger people families I know have two working parents and barely stay afloat, will have to work til 70+ and may not get a pension at all, maybe I’m from the wrong area but I certainly won’t be getting an inheritance nor will my partner, none of my friends are expecting anything significant…

Yup. Plus the idea that the previous generations had it so much harder than us, yet they’re the ones living in luxury now!

passporti · 12/11/2025 13:25

Probably already been said but ime the reason most younger people get p*ssed off by this is because we’ve barely any hope of home ownership, despite being sold the dream of better careers/salaries than our parents generation by attending university this hasn’t eventuated, most younger people families I know have two working parents and barely stay afloat, will have to work til 70+ and may not get a pension at all, maybe I’m from the wrong area but I certainly won’t be getting an inheritance nor will my partner, none of my friends are expecting anything significant…

Snailslide · 12/11/2025 13:17

CanaryChaffinch · 12/11/2025 11:46

If this cohort is so rich, then it stands to reason that the next generation down will benefit massively for the sheer luck of being an offspring. Don’t hear very much complaining about that. Just like any generation benefits or otherwise from just happening to be born at a certain time.

Wouldn’t it be nice if the young of today could seek to buy a house etc without having to rely on the gamble of who they were born to.

Wreckit · 12/11/2025 13:09

Allthings · 12/11/2025 09:16

And the younger baby boomers (born 1964) are still working and it will be for another 6 years before they reach state pension age.

A cohort of 18 years have quite different experiences depending on when they were born. Some have the benefits or difficulty’s in line with the previous or the next generation and there are individual differences as well. There seems to be a massive assumption on here that baby boomers are dripping in multiple properties and have vast pensions when that is not the case. A few may do, but that is the exception out of any generation. Women in particular are worse off than men. Whilst younger women now have the benefit of access to equal pay (some still miss out), pensions etc it wasn’t always the case. The poorest pensioners are women. As long as women continue to have time away from the workplace for childbirth and child rearing, women as a group will continue to be worse off than men.

It’s about time we stopped pitting one generation or one person against another. Divide and conquer and the race to the bottom is not helpful for any of us.

It's easy to say "stop pitting generations against each other" when the cohort who likely won't retire till 70+ will be the one paying for the generation being compensated for NOT retiring at 60

Periperi2025 · 12/11/2025 13:07

Vaxtable · 11/11/2025 21:56

I am 1959 as well, I don’t remember seeing lots of publicity and certainly there wasn’t for those born earlier. 1959 is right at the end of the scale here

Seriously?! I was a teenager when the initial changes were announced and I've always been aware that women's pension ages were increasing to match men's.

Not being interested in current affairs isn't a valid claim for compensation, funded by current tax payers.

Wreckit · 12/11/2025 13:01

NeedANewOne25 · 12/11/2025 09:06

I’ve reported this thread. This thread is ageist, sexist and really mean spirited. Some of these affected women were left in very difficult situations with very little notice, not all, but some. This community should be supportive of these, not whipping up some of the vitriol I have read.

Snowflake generation

MadinMarch · 12/11/2025 12:31

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 12/11/2025 08:10

Boomer is not a slur.

I would argue that 'Boomer' has become a slur. It's certainly used in that way on MN!

mutinyonthetwix · 12/11/2025 12:29

CanaryChaffinch · 12/11/2025 12:17

@Northquit ”Same place as the 1bn for redundancies in the NHS (And I hope to god they measure how many people take redundancy and then come back the week after)” Is that because each trust is essentially a separate employer so you could be made redundant from one, then go and work in another? I agree it’s wrong.

I think that refers to the redundancy payments for the abolition of NHS England itself. The gossip was that HM Treasury wouldn't hand over the cash for the redundancy payouts to DHSC unless DHSC agreed to absorb the costs of higher payment for medicines to US pharma companies that was promised to Trump. Some deal must have been struck somewhere in Whitehall as the redundancies are finally happening.

CanaryChaffinch · 12/11/2025 12:17

@Northquit ”Same place as the 1bn for redundancies in the NHS (And I hope to god they measure how many people take redundancy and then come back the week after)” Is that because each trust is essentially a separate employer so you could be made redundant from one, then go and work in another? I agree it’s wrong.

Northquit · 12/11/2025 12:14

1dayatatime · 11/11/2025 22:57

So where exactly is the £10 billion coming from?

For those in favour which other services should be cut to pay for it or which taxes would they like to see increased?

Same place as the 1bn for redundancies in the NHS (And I hope to god they measure how many people take redundancy and then come back the week after)

Same place as the lifting of 2 child cap will come from.

Magic money tree.

They don't understand what growing the economy means. It means good productive jobs.

CanaryChaffinch · 12/11/2025 12:14

MidnightPatrol · 12/11/2025 11:54

I think most people would like society to operate on merit and be able to live a good life throughout, not hoping they might inherit a few quid when they’re in their 60s.

And of course - there is no guarantee anyone will inherit a lot of money. A lot of pensioner wealth is in their pension (which won’t be inherited in most cases), and properties may end up being used to pay for care home fees.

So - there is more to it than ‘oh well you’ll inherit some money’.

I agree. I was just making the point that if there are SO MANY with millionaire wealth, then there is undoubtedly inheritance to the next one (or 2 as the OP says is her case). Even with tax, which I personally believe is fair because you just passively receive it, not through any effort but luck of the birth draw, many offspring will receive a fair amount, especially if they’re in an area of vast house price increase. And perhaps luck again if parent hasn’t needed care home.

OneAmberFinch · 12/11/2025 12:12

Garamousalata · 12/11/2025 10:03

And the ageist posts just keep on coming. It’s so depressing that women can’t stand shoulder to shoulder to fight injustice against our sex.

Could you please explain the ways you are standing shoulder to shoulder with younger women who will likely have to retire past 70, and doubt whether they will get any state pension at all?

Digdongdoo · 12/11/2025 11:54

CanaryChaffinch · 12/11/2025 11:46

If this cohort is so rich, then it stands to reason that the next generation down will benefit massively for the sheer luck of being an offspring. Don’t hear very much complaining about that. Just like any generation benefits or otherwise from just happening to be born at a certain time.

Not really. Inheritances are divided up usually. Then there's care home fees. Inheritance tax is also likely to increase imo. And it massively entrenches inequality.

MidnightPatrol · 12/11/2025 11:54

CanaryChaffinch · 12/11/2025 11:46

If this cohort is so rich, then it stands to reason that the next generation down will benefit massively for the sheer luck of being an offspring. Don’t hear very much complaining about that. Just like any generation benefits or otherwise from just happening to be born at a certain time.

I think most people would like society to operate on merit and be able to live a good life throughout, not hoping they might inherit a few quid when they’re in their 60s.

And of course - there is no guarantee anyone will inherit a lot of money. A lot of pensioner wealth is in their pension (which won’t be inherited in most cases), and properties may end up being used to pay for care home fees.

So - there is more to it than ‘oh well you’ll inherit some money’.

Ticklyoctopus · 12/11/2025 11:53

CanaryChaffinch · 12/11/2025 11:46

If this cohort is so rich, then it stands to reason that the next generation down will benefit massively for the sheer luck of being an offspring. Don’t hear very much complaining about that. Just like any generation benefits or otherwise from just happening to be born at a certain time.

We won’t benefit at all. DH’s parents have said they’re skipping him and his brother in their will and all will go to grandchildren. Fine, their choice. But we won’t be benefitting. And most people who do ‘benefit’ will when they’re in their 60s and have already basically done a full working life and bought a home etc.

OP posts:
Ticklyoctopus · 12/11/2025 11:52

Letthemeatgateau · 12/11/2025 11:13

Pensioners haven't got the country into a financial mess. It's the government who make all the financial decisions, not older people.

And who votes for the government? Everyone over 18 but the Boomers are a huge generation and not a benevolent one.

OP posts:
Letskeepcalm · 12/11/2025 11:51

CanaryChaffinch · 12/11/2025 11:46

If this cohort is so rich, then it stands to reason that the next generation down will benefit massively for the sheer luck of being an offspring. Don’t hear very much complaining about that. Just like any generation benefits or otherwise from just happening to be born at a certain time.

Yep

Letskeepcalm · 12/11/2025 11:50

Letthemeatgateau · 12/11/2025 11:13

Pensioners haven't got the country into a financial mess. It's the government who make all the financial decisions, not older people.

👏👏

CanaryChaffinch · 12/11/2025 11:46

If this cohort is so rich, then it stands to reason that the next generation down will benefit massively for the sheer luck of being an offspring. Don’t hear very much complaining about that. Just like any generation benefits or otherwise from just happening to be born at a certain time.

MidnightPatrol · 12/11/2025 11:43

Garamousalata · 12/11/2025 10:31

You are spectacularly missing the point.

Do elaborate

Digdongdoo · 12/11/2025 11:37

LabourOfLoathing · 12/11/2025 11:34

Because handing over £20million to a corrupt government abroad is a waste of tax payer money.

If our government wasn’t so quick to dish out millions of pounds to other governments then maybe we would have more money to spend on people in the Uk, and maybe they wouldn’t have to go back on their election promise not to increase taxes on working people (eg NI and also income tax - which they are widely expected to do).

And maybe, just maybe they wouldn’t need to backtrack on the compensation the Waspi women.

HTH.

£20m over the course of a decade, so reduce foreign aid spending in the long run. It's also completely irrelevant.

LabourOfLoathing · 12/11/2025 11:34

Digdongdoo · 12/11/2025 11:07

Yes. So I'm struggling to see what your point is or what it has to do with this topic?

Because handing over £20million to a corrupt government abroad is a waste of tax payer money.

If our government wasn’t so quick to dish out millions of pounds to other governments then maybe we would have more money to spend on people in the Uk, and maybe they wouldn’t have to go back on their election promise not to increase taxes on working people (eg NI and also income tax - which they are widely expected to do).

And maybe, just maybe they wouldn’t need to backtrack on the compensation the Waspi women.

HTH.

Anonymouseposter · 12/11/2025 11:25

Ticklyoctopus · 12/11/2025 10:57

I don’t think anyone has said that every woman of WASPI age feels this way. But you have to see the wider context. Todays pensioners have had the best financial days this country has ever seen, they retired far earlier than we will, many will be drawing a pension for 25+ years and the rest of the country is barely above water, yet they’re still clamouring for more at our expense. It’s awful and just so greedy.

Financial circumstances change for everyone at a moment’s notice, that doesn’t entitle us to compensation from the state. Tuition fees tripled overnight the year after I left school. Our mortgage shot up after the Trusterfuck a few years ago. Nobody gave us years to ‘financially plan’ for those things, they just happened. The WASPIs had far more warning than most, if they lived under a rock and refused to show even the smallest bit of common sense how is that our problem?

I agree with you. The only thing I’m pointing out is the generalisation about entitlement and the way in which some vociferous campaigners are being seen as representative of the entire age group . Boomer was initially just a descriptor but now like the term Karen it’s being used to stereotype people, shut them down and disrespect them. I have said above that I had plenty of notice and don’t agree with compensation.

QuenchedSquirrel · 12/11/2025 11:23

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 12/11/2025 08:10

Boomer is not a slur.

In itself, no, but it can and is used as a slur.