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To ask how to protect my daughter from my son?

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WhaleRiders · 11/11/2025 15:07

Disabled son is nearly 4 but intellectually functions at the level of maybe an 18-month-old. Nonverbal, responds to his name and a few individual words like “eat” but that’s it.

He is incredibly hyperactive and from the moment he wakes up is running around screaming continuously in either joy or anger, pulling things off shelves, melting down and kicking and biting.

Now he is also constantly attacking his sister, who is 6 months old. I of course prevent him from getting within reach of her as much as possible but he still manages to slap, kick, bite, hit her with a weapon of some kind at least once a day, often more. When he can’t reach her he just screams as loudly as he can as close to her as he can, which makes her cry.

She is obviously terrified in her own home. She flinches when she hears him coming down the hall. She often preemptively starts crying when she sees him.

I am losing my mind with guilt and worry over the long and short term harm this is doing to her. What can I do?

Our home is tiny (2 small bedrooms, tiny kitchen and bathroom) and there’s no garden or anything so it’s hard to keep them apart.

He sometimes seems amused by being told off, but mostly doesn’t seem to even notice. I’ve tried ignoring it too but that also doesn’t work.

Ive tried shutting him in his room for a few minutes but he then becomes hysterical which is awful and just doesn’t help.

What can I do? I have no doubt he would actually kill her if they were ever alone together for even a few minutes, but of course I’m careful that never happens.

OP posts:
Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 19:10

Allseeingallknowing · 12/11/2025 19:10

Yes, two and I couldn’t do it

Edited

And if one had a disability? How do you think you'd manage this?

Allseeingallknowing · 12/11/2025 19:10

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 19:09

Do you have children?

Yes, two and I couldn’t do it

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 19:09

Allseeingallknowing · 12/11/2025 19:08

A few years? That’s torture for the OP to live like that!

Do you have children?

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 19:09

Allseeingallknowing · 12/11/2025 19:08

A few years? That’s torture for the OP to live like that!

Is it? Because I did it

Allseeingallknowing · 12/11/2025 19:08

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 19:05

It only needs to be possible for a few years. Then you have a 4 yr old and a 7 yr old and life is very different

A few years? That’s torture for the OP to live like that!

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 19:05

Allseeingallknowing · 12/11/2025 18:59

A terrible way to live, stressful and exhausting, physically and mentally, not possible for a long length of time.

It only needs to be possible for a few years. Then you have a 4 yr old and a 7 yr old and life is very different

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 19:03

Allseeingallknowing · 12/11/2025 18:59

A terrible way to live, stressful and exhausting, physically and mentally, not possible for a long length of time.

Much, much superior to letting one of my children go which seems to be what others are suggesting.

And also it was a time filled with love and closeness and cuddles. Kids who are volatile are still kids who are cute and funny and adorable at times. I love both my kids very very deeply and their capabilities and behaviours don't impact that. It's our job as parents to find a way to manage it.

Also it was preceded by years of infertility and having my babies has been so massively superior to wanting and not having them. The laughter and joy and also the increased laughter and joy over time has been amazing. Watching them both grow and learn, it's rough advocating for my eldest at times, getting him to school, managing appointments, dealing with meltdowns but without that I wouldn't have the kid who loves and cares as deeply as he does, who is so thoughtful and kind when he's not dysregulated and who can be kept well regulated almost all the time now.

Do you have kids?

Allseeingallknowing · 12/11/2025 18:59

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 18:35

You stop them from failing by NEVER stepping away. Always being in between them or taking one with you. Ah but how do I do housework? You don't. You do it while they sleep. My eldest didn't sleep until midnight so I'd sleep with him I told baby woke up, feed her, go down, clean for 2 hours, feed baby again. Get in bed, husband would get up with kids from 5 onwards and I'd sleep until he needed to get ready for work. Then during the day I put baby in a sling to make food or did it while she napped. Or prepped the night before. And we went out a lot because it was easier when he was occupied and well exercised. But I did nothing productive when home alone with the kids, eldest ideally needed 1-1 supervision and as that wasn't entirely possible I just never moved more than 10cm from them. He very rarely landed a hit or scratch, I could count on 1 hand, because I was close enough to grab him and he is and was super fast. But you essentially do nothing other than provide very very constant care and supervision.

A terrible way to live, stressful and exhausting, physically and mentally, not possible for a long length of time.

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 18:35

Bagsintheboot · 11/11/2025 15:54

The problem with all the tinkering around the edges with stairgates, trying to keeping them separate, taking away hard toys (as though it's impossible to harm someone with a cloth book or a fuzzy ball - a baby could very easily be suffocated with one) is that none of them are long-term solutions.

If / when these fail and the sister is seriously hurt or worse, then OP and her partner are the ones who will be up in front of SS trying to justify why they couldn't safeguard their daughter, with the possible end result of the removal of both children, assuming both children are still alive.

Locking him in a room isn't a solution either.

OP and partner need to start things in motion to remove him from the home, even temporarily, while professional help is sought. It seems drastic I know, but this is a drastic situation.

You stop them from failing by NEVER stepping away. Always being in between them or taking one with you. Ah but how do I do housework? You don't. You do it while they sleep. My eldest didn't sleep until midnight so I'd sleep with him I told baby woke up, feed her, go down, clean for 2 hours, feed baby again. Get in bed, husband would get up with kids from 5 onwards and I'd sleep until he needed to get ready for work. Then during the day I put baby in a sling to make food or did it while she napped. Or prepped the night before. And we went out a lot because it was easier when he was occupied and well exercised. But I did nothing productive when home alone with the kids, eldest ideally needed 1-1 supervision and as that wasn't entirely possible I just never moved more than 10cm from them. He very rarely landed a hit or scratch, I could count on 1 hand, because I was close enough to grab him and he is and was super fast. But you essentially do nothing other than provide very very constant care and supervision.

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 18:28

HeyGuysItsNicole · 12/11/2025 17:58

Yes and we're talking about a 6 month old baby being ABUSED

its not ridiculous to suggest a removal of the child on a temporary whether he goes to a hotel with his father or stays with other family members. This baby is frightened and scared. You keep saying you don't know that he won't get better, you also don't know that he may get a hell of a lot worse, bigger and stronger.

it is absolutely not ridiculous to remove a child to keep another safe. I am not saying lock him away or chuck him at social services. I mean realise, his dad takes him for a long weekend away. OP can't baby wear forever and this cannot go on any longer. No matter how much you preach that other families have it worse. I personally can't see what's worse than a little babies life potentially at risk of being killed. You, on every thread of this topic, only ever seem to care about the SEN child. Please spare a thought for this baby too.

Please see my above point about disabled children being people too

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 18:27

x2boys · 12/11/2025 18:24

Of course I'm aware my own son is severely disabled and very loved.

My absolute apologies, I responded to the wrong poster.

x2boys · 12/11/2025 18:24

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 17:57

Because she has 2 children, both hers, both of whome she loves, both of whom it's her responsibility to parent and he's 4, he also needs protecting and loving and not traumatising by suddenly removing his family from him. I don't know if you are aware but disabled children are people too

Of course I'm aware my own son is severely disabled and very loved.

x2boys · 12/11/2025 18:23

HeyGuysItsNicole · 12/11/2025 17:58

Yes and we're talking about a 6 month old baby being ABUSED

its not ridiculous to suggest a removal of the child on a temporary whether he goes to a hotel with his father or stays with other family members. This baby is frightened and scared. You keep saying you don't know that he won't get better, you also don't know that he may get a hell of a lot worse, bigger and stronger.

it is absolutely not ridiculous to remove a child to keep another safe. I am not saying lock him away or chuck him at social services. I mean realise, his dad takes him for a long weekend away. OP can't baby wear forever and this cannot go on any longer. No matter how much you preach that other families have it worse. I personally can't see what's worse than a little babies life potentially at risk of being killed. You, on every thread of this topic, only ever seem to care about the SEN child. Please spare a thought for this baby too.

I am sparing a though for both children unlike many posters, but they reality is there is not much help available
I absolutely think the op should be referred to all appropriate services
An occupational therapist can put things in place to keep both children safe like a stable door for example, rather than jumping to the immediate removal of a child.

Allseeingallknowing · 12/11/2025 18:08

x2boys · 12/11/2025 17:32

You dont know that ,he's only four at this age no one can say how's he going to be when he gets older

Only 4, but easily able and strong enough to hurt a baby! He’s already done so!

HeyGuysItsNicole · 12/11/2025 17:58

x2boys · 12/11/2025 14:13

And you are being more ridiculous thinking its ok to lock disabled children up and to split families up as the first port of call, this is a four year old child we are talking about.

Yes and we're talking about a 6 month old baby being ABUSED

its not ridiculous to suggest a removal of the child on a temporary whether he goes to a hotel with his father or stays with other family members. This baby is frightened and scared. You keep saying you don't know that he won't get better, you also don't know that he may get a hell of a lot worse, bigger and stronger.

it is absolutely not ridiculous to remove a child to keep another safe. I am not saying lock him away or chuck him at social services. I mean realise, his dad takes him for a long weekend away. OP can't baby wear forever and this cannot go on any longer. No matter how much you preach that other families have it worse. I personally can't see what's worse than a little babies life potentially at risk of being killed. You, on every thread of this topic, only ever seem to care about the SEN child. Please spare a thought for this baby too.

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 17:57

x2boys · 12/11/2025 17:32

You dont know that ,he's only four at this age no one can say how's he going to be when he gets older

Because she has 2 children, both hers, both of whome she loves, both of whom it's her responsibility to parent and he's 4, he also needs protecting and loving and not traumatising by suddenly removing his family from him. I don't know if you are aware but disabled children are people too

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 17:55

Mogwatch · 12/11/2025 17:50

This is wisdom. Sounds like you could start your own parent mentoring scheme @Barnbrack .

We didn't have it this bad but I could have done with reading some of this when mine were 1 and 3.

Oh God me too and I was really fortunate, my breastfeeding group when he was tiny got very close during COVID via a WhatsApp group. 2 of those ladies were psychologists, one a child psychologist and 3 of the boys have ended up with similar diagnoses. Having that outlet and completely non judgemental sounding board was completely invaluable. Women who love your kids because they love you and are like aunties.

Also my mum had 5 very different kids and had this amazing gift for parenting us all very much individually and I like to think I've carried some fo that forward.

There's always some horrific person on these threads quick to want to send away the 'peoblem child' who is ops toddler, very recent a baby themselves who op loves to the ends of the earth. Noone ever advocates sending the baby away while the situation is no more the fault of the eldest than of the baby.

It can be got through but it is bloody hard no pretending it isnt

Mogwatch · 12/11/2025 17:50

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 17:07

I remember once or twice having to take my daughter up and put her in her room, behind a baby gate into her cot with toys while my son was throwing cuddly toys in a rampage in the living room, run down, settle him and put on cartoons for him and then I just sat on the stairs for 15 minutes where I could see them both and quietly cried. It's a heck of a time.

This is wisdom. Sounds like you could start your own parent mentoring scheme @Barnbrack .

We didn't have it this bad but I could have done with reading some of this when mine were 1 and 3.

x2boys · 12/11/2025 17:42

Allseeingallknowing · 12/11/2025 17:35

How can the OP wait to find out- the situation nis intolerable now!

Loads of fsmilies have no option
However
I hope they have all the appropriate services involved as he starting school soon and things might well improve then
The reality is respite is hard to get and even when awarded its very hit and miss what different LA,s offer ,residential schools are just not an option at this point things that are available, areearly help ,parenting courses but everything takes time.

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 17:36

Allseeingallknowing · 12/11/2025 17:35

How can the OP wait to find out- the situation nis intolerable now!

By putting systems in place. Clearing room, baby wearing, safe spaces for both kids to be placed in and if she's anything like me extensive counselling for herself to get her through.

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 17:36

Allseeingallknowing · 12/11/2025 17:12

Unfortunately the OP’s situation sounds a lot worse than that

Also in my example he was throwing cuddly toys because I'd cleared everything including chairs he could pick up from the room. There was nothing else to throw. No ornaments, no hard toys, no books, nothing in the room.

Allseeingallknowing · 12/11/2025 17:35

x2boys · 12/11/2025 17:32

You dont know that ,he's only four at this age no one can say how's he going to be when he gets older

How can the OP wait to find out- the situation nis intolerable now!

x2boys · 12/11/2025 17:32

Allseeingallknowing · 12/11/2025 17:12

Unfortunately the OP’s situation sounds a lot worse than that

You dont know that ,he's only four at this age no one can say how's he going to be when he gets older

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 17:15

Allseeingallknowing · 12/11/2025 17:12

Unfortunately the OP’s situation sounds a lot worse than that

It is but it can get better! Mine was like op suggests for a time. Before I got systems in place. I ended up at a and e with a 4 month old because he threw himself on top of her without warning while iw as sat directly beside them both.

Allseeingallknowing · 12/11/2025 17:12

Barnbrack · 12/11/2025 17:07

I remember once or twice having to take my daughter up and put her in her room, behind a baby gate into her cot with toys while my son was throwing cuddly toys in a rampage in the living room, run down, settle him and put on cartoons for him and then I just sat on the stairs for 15 minutes where I could see them both and quietly cried. It's a heck of a time.

Unfortunately the OP’s situation sounds a lot worse than that