To give his head a wobble?

That’s so lovely. My son is the same. Baby 5 months old. He works hard also to make sure they’re looked after ❤️

I'd have to say something to the pathetic manchild!

So you are blaming her for his bad behaviour? Make your mind up.

My mum was my first teacher. She taught me it's acceptable to smack children in the mouth if they annoy you. Funnily enough as an adult I have subsequently rectified that lesson. However if I smacked my kid in the mouth tomorrow that's my fault entirely, not my mum's. Adults have responsibility for their own actions.

It's not his mum's fault he's a turd now as a 30 something grown ass man, it's his. If you stop growing, learning and bettering yourself in childhood there's something wrong with you.

Irrelevant. They are still adults and know how to treat other people. They wouldn't expect their room mates to tidy after them. And it's not just the actual housework, it's the attitude he has towards her. He couldn't care less about her or her well being. You don't look at someone you love drowning and step on their head.

Because in my experience it's usually the mum that picks after these man children and does their washing and cleaning. Surely you realise that?

My husband was like this but I can confirm, 2 children and 18years later he is much better.

And Yes, he’s being a dickhead!

Stay out of it, your dd if she makes up with him wont appericate you meddling.
however you can tell her to go on strike - just do hers & the babys stuff. Leave his stuff, he will soon learn when he runs out of clean clothes!

Thankfully my partner was amazing after I had a c section, and despite working full time would still get up in the night to help me and do cleaning and cooking. Not once did he expect me to do anything on maternity leave other than look after our baby.

His mum made him do all his washing and ironing from around aged 13 and he did most of the cooking when he lived at home too - definitely something I’m hoping to replicate with my little boy!

Give her head a wobble first! She needs to chuck him out!!

I think you need to let your daughter deal with it - maybe support her to speak to him

its not your battle, upsetting as it is

If you love someone and they're ill, the normal thing to do is to worry about them, check in on them regularly, make their life as easy as possible. Leaving pants on the floor shows hatred rather than love.

God, I don’t know what women’s magazines are full of these days, but Cosmo-style dating guides from the early 1970s are clearly due for a renaissance.
It truly shocks me that modern young women are falling for and shacking up with men like this, when there are flashing lights and red flags surrounding them, as in this case.

I agree with how you feel but hold tight.

Ultimately I imagine you want him to change step up and for them to stay together. Change is less likely to happen when someone feels attacked,ganged up against and misunderstood.
That's not to say I don't fully think he is in the wrong but the way you go about this either aids or hampers the potential for change.

It might be he is incapable of change and in that case you just need to support your daughter to have the strength to leave. But you need to try and stay impartial to a degree, it must come from your daughter all the decisions.

If you make a strong case now that you are against him (as he will likely see it) if they then do stay together you run the risk of damaging the relationship they have with you because then they don't feel comfortable to visit etc

For now offer your daughter support. Maybe she can stay with you for a while. when she is well enough she needs to sit down with him and discuss things. Therapy might be helpful for both or individually.

Stay out of it. Just support your daughter

Yes. If my DS25 behaved like this I would wonder what the hell I’d done wrong. I would absolutely be blaming myself for my rubbish parenting. I would also be scrambling to rectify it by going round there, gathering his clothes off the floor into a bin bag, waiting for him to walk through the door, and bollocking him all the way to the washing machine. He would then given an urgent lesson in laundry and washing up.

OP, you know this won’t get any better. He isn’t just a bit dim or thoughtless, he’s unpleasant. He called her ‘weak’. She needs support to leave him.

Partner not husband? She needs to be really protective of her job prospects/ career progression and pension (I know, years off but still a consideration). She must not put her career on hold to bring up a child while he continues his life completely unaffected. Whose is the house they are living in? If they are not married and it is his house she could spend years looking after his child so he can go out to work and it all break down and she would have absolutely nothing.

Of course, but I was commenting on her words that she used. A Woman is also more likely to be very fertile, just after having a baby. That is something to think about, maybe.

OP was literally responding to a PPs question relating to why her DD had a child with this man

Go give him a mouthful, collect your daughter and the baby and take them home for a bit.

My point eloquently? You were spoiling so much to put somebody down that you, based on fiction alone, implied that OP saw her grandchild as a ‘mistake’. I might have swore but you are just needlessly nasty.

Oh dear, you could have tried to make your point more eloquently than that, but never mind. Lets just say, it is okay to disagree.

I know that some users are a big fan of doing massive reaches in order to put the boot in with others on here but you are REALLY out of order with this one.
OP is clearly a loving mum and grandma. It’s extremely obvious that, especially given the question she as responding to, that the act of conception was the accident.
Shame on you, dick head.