to say the BBC might be imperfect but

Please can you describe this great value that the BBC offer and that i will supposedly miss.

I haven't watched the bbc in years, nor do I pay them money.

I disagree. They are institutionally biased and force their left wing propaganda when they should be impartial and report on facts not on their opinions. I cancelled my tv licence and they won’t ever get a penny out of this household again.

It's not a state broadcaster.

The BBC is an absolute joke and has been for years. Can’t wait for it to go.

We have a few good ones locally. And I choose to give them my clicks.

They do some good but that doesn't excuse the deliberate editing changes to the Panarama Trump programe. Badly thought out and arrogant that they thought they could get away with it. I hope Trump's threatened lawsuit is successful. Not only do they break impartiality but they enable bad and inappropriate behaviour from their employees. Yet still Davey is spouting how great they are with no acknowledgment of huge errors made.

@vellichoriaI heard they are going to make everyone pay again whether you watch it or not, but I'm not sure if it's true. I didn't look into it.

what would we lose? All I see is a broadcaster who's allowed sexual predators and abusers free rein. Savile, all the strictly dramas, gregg Wallace, Tim Westwood etc.

I stopped watching bbc news during Covid. I felt like it was dumbed down to newsround level.

it’s the huge salaries handed out

I’ve just read that Jonathan Munro who reported to Deborah Turness is on 300k!! Absolute madness while the poor minions on the ground doing the actual hard slog are paid crumbs. Standard for private but for public service that is disgusting.

You mean they were going to compete with "Retch" and "Newsquest" both of whom specialise in clickbait about so called celebrities and what they can scrape from social media. There are very few genuine local news services anymore or local papers produced in the area they serve. that actually employ journalists

The archive radio and tv isn't great. So.many good shows not available to watch. And massive high salaries for presenters.

This.

I also thing value for money is an increasing issue - we get less and less for money we have to pay and increasing numbers aren't paying at all.

I'd back reform but have little faith that's going to be possible with the attitudes on display.

If the demand for their decent content is there they can do a subscription model.

I only liked some programmes they produced but not enough to keep the licence. Felt the same way about all other channels. Cancelled my licence during covid and don't plan to start paying again.

The BBC is a fantastic broadcaster. It’s becoming less favoured among young people as they choose poor news outlets, ev TikTok. Of course the bbc is worth preserving. Probably with a slimmed down decision making process (too many cooks) but it broadcasts the best wildlife programmes, the best objective news and current affairs and many programmes it commissions are first class.

What it has been lax on is asking the right questions of the tv companies it commissions from. Clearly the piece on Trump was wrong but it’s because they didn’t evaluate the original speech and didn’t pick up the edit. Neither did Trump when it was broadcast 6 months ago. So many think it’s a right wing coup to bring the bbc down. I tend to agree.

Commissioning programmes from others brings different issues. Panorama and the Gaza documentary weren’t made by the bbc. So of course it should survive but be far more careful about critiquing programmes.

I would pay double for it. Anyone who doesn’t value its output in radio, dc tv, world news and all its channels does have an issue with quality tv and is probably seeking sport or entertainment only in lighter formats. We don’t watch much not on the bbc!

The bigger issue I have is prominence given to Reform and the radio certainly doesn’t have the opposition parties on as much. You would barely know the Liberals had an annual conference! It’s driven too much by chat and polls, and not enough by the make up of parliament. They allow contributors to say all sorts of incorrect things without saying what the truth is - eg on university fees where the truth is avoided because rhetoric sounds better. BBC verify needs more airtime!

Well, i love a lot of their programmes. But i don't believe they have been impartial for a long time. Otherwise there wouldn't have been so many people like Farage and his ilk on news and politics programmes when they didn't even have an elected MP. But ignored the actual sitting Green MPs.

Or putting up a scientist talking about climage change, and then some climate change denier (Nigel Lawson?) as "balance".

Pathetic.

And then there was this picture.

So. no. I have zero sympathy with them - and let alone resignations there should be a lot more sackings.

Then you and the people who share your view can pay for it. Everyone else, who doesn't want a left wing lecture every time they tune in, shouldn't be forced to fund it.

Talking about bloated - a while back, the BBC decided that it would move heavily into local news, via its website. There was absolutely no reason to do this, it's a large enough organisation already. Anyway, there was a massive outcry because they were going to choke off all the commercial local news websites and services. They were forced to back down. The BBC is like a huge, smug blob, that thinks it knows best about everything.

I’d happily pay a smaller subscription for a pared-back public radio service from a less bloated BBC.

For me it isn’t just impartiality- it’s the huge salaries handed out and the decades of turning a blind eye to stars who have abused their privilege and power whilst in the service of the BBC.

People don’t consume serious news like they did only thirty years ago. That’s a massive failing in society. The problem is also now that the people making the news broadcasts also don’t appear to believe in serious news. They are chasing ratings in a world that is primarily focused on entertainment.

Sorry, but the funding model is absolutely broken.

No way should someone who wants to watch live football on sky have to fund the BBC services they see as poor value and never want to use.

At the absolute minimum the infrastructure fee and the programming fee needs to be separated out.

Then the BBC can live by the desirability of its output like every other TV station.

Woman's Hour? Which Jenni Murray got hounded out of for daring to not believe the blessed BBC scripture that trans-identified men are women?

That's first on the cancellation list.

It can still exist but they can ask people who want to watch it to pay for it.

Bbc arabic had to issue 2 corrections a week for 2 years. Thats a shitshow.

I'd be very sad to see the loss of the BBC and you only have to look at it's haters (Daily Mail, Telegraph, the Murdoch media empire) to see that the those that are trying to get rid are doing so for their own agenda and it'snot one that has an aim of fair and balanced information. The BBC has many imperfections and fails on the wrong side of certain debates, when it should be more neutral but rather a reformed BBC than Fox news any day of the week.

They've caused a huge amount of damage by acting as a mouthpiece for terrorism, refusing to publicise corrections but adding them as postscripts after publishing inflammatory misinformation. Their Arabic service employs literal terrorists and intentionally changes their English subtitles to sway opinion. They have spent hundreds and thousands of pounds burying a report on their institutional antisemitism, and ignored an open letter signed by hundreds of Jewish employees.