Get Britain Working is totally missing the current employment crisis economy

Use childcare and/or go part time yourself. Why are you restricting her to school hours?

There are no jobs. Companies in DHs field are closing, there are redundancies at his place.
DDs friends are all looking for pt work, one has applied for 80 positions and got nowhere.

There may be lots of vacancies advertised but the salaries associated are dire or the jobs are sales and commissions based.
A lot of people who may have moved jobs are put off at the loss of financial security.

Some people are clinging onto their jobs rather than moving up the ladder.

I think you are right. There needs to be a rethink at all levels of government. All spending should be categorised as essential or inessential. Wilful mis-categorisation (eg drag Queen story time, a rainbow paint job on a police van etc) should result in liability for the person who signed off on the cheque.

Disabled people is a massive category. I’m not sure if your referring to a wheelchair user or someone who has , let’s say ODD .

The thing is, it is easy for them to convince the local chippie that they can work there - which has the knock on effect of meaning that someone ho is not qualified to work a profession also can't get a job at the chip shop.

Whilst I don't want to see anyone skint, NMW has doubled over the last 10 years whilst many professional wages have stagnated. It's seriously getting to the point that I wonder why I work a stressful job when I could work at the supermarket for £5 an hour less. So in 10 years, why would I expect wages to be parallel if they carry on at this rate. Which also means the cost of your chips goes up to fund wages and then noone buys them.

I'm not against a living wage, far from it. But a living wage pushes up the cost of living.

ETA: it will also see professionals jacking it in for similar paid work and no stress, which further pushes people out of the labour market.

You could say what the salaries are?

You've spoken about them being benchmarking against other companies in the same industry... usually that means they're low.

And you could specify the sector (It, care, logistics, call-centre, etc) and level (worker, manager, designer, etc) without it identifying the company.

Without that I fear that people will imagine you're disingenuous..

DD is 3 years older than DS. When she was at college, there was endless part time jobs. If she didn't like one, she moved on easily in the same week. DS is now at sixth form and has applied for countless similar jobs and doesn't even get a reply.

Thanks, but we don't.

Yes, it’s horrendous out there. My DD was recently made redundant- she has a first class degree from an RG university, plus distinction at MA - and can’t get another job. She has worked solidly for the last four years and was in the charity sector in London , so not megabucks. She was looking for jobs paying low 30s. Nothing. she’s now looking for jobs paying 20s. She’s done all sorts in the past, bar work, teaching assistant.

Unfortunately AI initial screening doesn’t help. If your organisation arranges recruitment that way @MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack, that could be the issue.

School hour jobs are the holy grail,there aren’t that many,she will have to work evenings or weekends if you don’t have childcare .

OP I agree with you.

We're being spun a similar narrative to the 'there are so many NEETs as they're all at home with mental health issues'.

Like many posters on other threads I know capable, qualified graduates with work experience who are struggling from temp job to temp job with periods of unemployment in between. Some of these graduated two years ago and have already faced multiple redundancies.
The ones faring best are those who can live with parents rent free (and those parents live in locations where jobs are). So an accident of birth then.

Housing costs in particular mean that some simply cannot afford to live where there may be more jobs. Variable transport infrastructure means some simply cannot afford to travel to where there may be more jobs.

People can't be expected to get into debt in order to be employed. If people can't afford to give up housing benefit etc because the wages that replace it simply don't cover the exorbitant rent charged by the private landlord with one eye on the property market - what is it we expect people to actually do? Become homeless in order to be employed?

But its easier to focus everyone's attention on blaming the luxurious benefit system or asylum seekers or [insert scapegoat].

I currently work in hospitality and have worked in care, my back and hips are knackered at 46, partly because of the way I am 'designed' (discovered now I'm having issues) and partly because of the physical effects of both jobs over the years. I am looking at a hip replacement in the next 10 years.

I've also had some mental health issues recently and have been moved departments since having time off sick because I can't perform that role the way they want it done now, and am having shifts cut short or cancelled completely at the last minute - I understand why, when it's quiet the business can't afford to pay you to stand around or clean things that are already clean, but I have to be available for the shifts I'm rota'd for - which means I can't be available for another job, and I also don't get finish times so can't commit to a start time with another employer, but then some weeks am coming out with 25 hours and some over 40, and rota's are not issued until the Saturday before they start on the Monday, nearly all other hospitality and care roles are the same, so moving employers just means the same issues with a different employer. Though I am looking.

With those types of restrictions imposed I'm not sure how the hell I'm supposed to earn enough to live on, how I'm supposed to be available to more than one employer when they both want me available 24/7 but will also cancel or cut short a shift at very short notice, I can have 5 shifts on the rota from one place at the start of the week at around 40 hours but end up with 25 hours because I have one cancelled and the rest cut short which means I actually am available but don't know it until that moment.

Absolutely willing to work 2/3/4 jobs, 40/50 hours a week - but finding that impossible to organise when I am rota'd for 40 hours, actually working 25 and have no idea when those 25 will actually happen.

The only answer is to move out of hospitality and care completely - but there's nothing out there, but because I'm reliant on top ups from the weeks that I have hours cut short I need to apply for the same roles as I'm already doing, so it's an endless loop of 5 shifts rota'd, job applications where I can't give availability because of the other job and so it continues. And I'm told it's my 'lifestyle choice wanting to work part time' that's the problem - I was working 50 hours a week over summer, will likely be doing that again over Christmas, would be doing that now if I could.
I think people have no idea how these industries operate, how they create a lot of the problems that we're facing - but then having to give people set hours and shifts will increase the prices as that needs to be paid for no matter what the business is making.
It's just a bloody mess, one I hope I can get out of soon, but there just doesn't seem to be any full time roles I can do in my area, though I continue looking!

I don't know what else to say? I won't share the sector or further details that would identify the organisation.

I can only say that we just don't see many high calibre applicants these days - not like we did before. It isn't just our organisation either - I know others that are struggling to find the right people.

I agree.

Labour damages small businesses and their ability to employ staff when they increased their NI contributions.

Add to that Brexit making it more difficult for business to function, AI replacing some jobs and many businesses still recovering from Covid then you have a perfect storm.

Retraining is also really expensive as we have extortionate tuition fees.

That is why it is ludicrous to suggest that many disabled people can just magically find and retain jobs when employers won't even consider people who need reasonable adjustments, might need time off work for treatment/sickness and have gaps in their CVs because their health conditions meant they could not work when they have so many people who don't have these issues flooding them with CVs and application forms...

It just shows that Reeves and the rest of the government are completely detached from reality and unwilling to admit that they are messing up badly.

My wife would love to work but we are stuck with nothing being available in school hours. She isn't looking for anything huge, just a chance to do a few hours of honest work.

It seems that at all levels the work isn't there.

Then that's up to them to rectify it. It's not up to us disabled people to put up and shut up and deal with shit jobs to make the government happy. (I know you didn't say anything of the sort, but I think that's genuinely how the government views disabled people)

Could you tell us a bit more?

Is the issue that you're not getting many applicants (in which case, possibly a visibility issue?) or that you're getting flooded with "bad" or bot-written applications?

What industry are you in. I will point my sons degree options in that direction!

Who do you work for and how can I find a job with you 🤣

Hmm, where are all these ultra qualified people who can't find jobs, I wonder?

We're a decent employer. Very positive reviews on glass door etc. Salaries are benchmarked against the rest of our sector. We offer very flexible hours and hybrid working, or full home working for some roles. Good training opportunities. Annual leave, sick pay, pension contributions etc all above the statutory requirements. Supportive management and positive culture with a focus on staff wellbeing. Interesting work.

Recruitment is somewhat easier than it was a few years ago, and we do get more applications now than we did straight after the pandemic, but we certainly aren't seeing lots of high calibre applicants who are struggling to find work. Where are they all?!

What's the point? Labour will just confiscate your earnings and pass it to the idle to live a lifestyle that you can't afford. Might as well cut out the middle man.

I worked in supporting job seekers, not for a government funded programme. I was made redundant last October and took early retirement, not on my pensions which are pitiful, but DH's. Ability to retrain / FE decimated, NEETS off the scale, saw entry level / no skill jobs decimated, employers not replacing staff, apprenticeships replacing high level / experienced roles (this caused all sorts of issues), no graduate roles but most of the staff already graduates in many organisations, AI used to justify cuts and ageism used to block candidates from roles for a variety of reasons... then there's wage stagnation and it's no wonder the EU want to open our doors to their young, is it! All our government is doing is merging the often inept careers service with the dire job centre setups to deal with NEETS, they haven't a clue and have failed to listen for decades!