Do you think we should life the two child benefit cap?

What's that got to do with you calling me a lazy scrounger?

I was a SAHM mum. But DH earned enough to look after all of us and we never took a penny in benefits

I was referring to your comment that unless you parent full-time you're not parenting. I assumed you were referring to stay at home parents.

Plus the extra burden on the NHS if the country is saying it’s fine to not work and have multiple kids.

If you think with the cost of rents and paying childcare upfront isn't a detterant to adding a 3rd child in this shocking encomy I would seriously question your parenting! Lack of services to get an appointment. I don't know why you wouldn't consider money it's common sense!

Me? My children are 34 and 29. I'm retired!

THIS

You did say this about the op?

The goady smug poster doesn't mention that she's happy to have an afternoon nap while working mothers are subsidising her and her children's health care, education etc and the CB she receives. A proper lazy scrounger.

That is something extra. They can't lift it properly without Westminsters say so. I suspect Scotland doing that has made it even more likely Labour will end it.

Reported.

No I do not think the cap should be removed, especially during a cost of living crisis without exploring other policies first.

Maybe free school meals for all children with vouchers to used for food items only during school holidays. Maybe scrap child benefit entirely to fund it. Establish local farms/vegetable patches etc to grow food and direct people struggling to find jobs to work there.

Those who choose to homeschool could be given the equivalent in food vouchers, so they don't miss out.

Judgmental? On THIS thread? 😂The cap will be getting lifted in Scotland regardless.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdezyrpgez3o

Exactly this, there was advanced warning about the cap, children were not "thrown into poverty". I know from talking in my community that this definitely made people think about having a third child. People need to take accountability for their actions, and that includes family size.
One community who have been badly hit by the cap is the ultra orthodox Jewish community in North London. They are disproportionately reliant on social welfare, yet will continue to have more DC for religious reasons. Last time I did training the average number of children was around 5, but 12 DC isn't unusual either. It's a real shame, but ultimately their parents have put them in this situation.

Yes it will be reimposed by next govt. It’s not being implemented until September 2026 anyway so likely will only be in place for 2.5 years.

This is so horrifically judgemental. I can't even put into words how this makes me feel.

Agree @Happymondai, but not agreeing to being taxed further, working more, so more payouts re bfclub, after school care etc so people who aren’t working can get handed more money is as ever eeeevvil! 🙄

I honestly don’t get why so many people are supporting bringing back giving thousands of pounds a month to someone with 15 kids at a time when taxes are increasing for everyone else!!

because I’m too lazy to type I will copy and paste my essay from earlier yet again (seeing as none of the pro giving thousands to someone with 15 kids has responded to it yet)

I doubt labour will ever be voted in again, declaring this the same week as tax rises will piss a lot of people off, especially with the current public opinion on immigration when most big families are from other countries.
I think a two child cap is reasonable and I say that as someone who was on benefits for years and had a child at 16 (so a complete scrounger 🤣) once or twice fair enough but how did you not learn your lesson the third time??
You can’t expect working taxes payers to fund your platoon of children and not feel resentment, who’s jealous of someone on the dole with a platoon of kids? I’m sure the op could choose to do that herself hell we all could but the economy would crash.
Personally I think free coil fitting centres in every town should be available (I recently found out the place in my town that used to do this has shut and the nearest one is miles away) then there’s no excuse and before you mention twins, twins have always been exempt from this policy

And on another added side note I think it’s possible to live on the money you get for two kids with three kids, hand me downs and room sharing permitted

Sorry yes you are correct. It is a lot of money I was thinking of the CB not the UC child element approx £300. It is a lot of money and I can't imagine where it would come from. I don't think it should be lifted.

If anything like the first time it was done it would only apply to children born after it was applied

Will they be future taxpayers? There might not be enough jobs for a start.

Agree on generally a bad call

It's been on BBC Live this morning. It's such bad timing to lift the cap. I think having 4 kids in this economy isn't reasonable at all. You really would need to be providing a decent dual income to provide for all 4 kids. It does sound as though it will be lifted!