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To feel sad that my Dd will not really know what it’s like to be British

194 replies

Nochristmasvibesasofyet · 10/11/2025 21:03

We live abroad, Dh and I both British, Dd is 6 and was born where we live. We have been ‘Back home’ a couple of times for short holidays, but mainly everyone comes to us.
Ive started to feel sad recently that she won’t experience a British childhood/upbringing, unless we move in the next few years-will it be too late then?
How important is it that we try to keep her informed of her heritage (if that’s the right word!)

OP posts:
Ticklyoctopus · 11/11/2025 14:57

InterIgnis · 11/11/2025 13:56

France receives more asylum applications than the UK. They also have a higher number of granted applications. So yes.

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Trukt · 11/11/2025 14:54

AliceMaforethought · 11/11/2025 13:46

Yes, all you'll be left with are Reform voters and the unemployable.

I am not a reform voter and don’t agree with the EDL types on here getting all frothy that others want to leave the UK. But I still quite like living here. Don’t leave me alone with them. ;-)

C152 · 11/11/2025 14:08

I wouldn't return to the UK, OP. Your child will have a different childhood experience to you, wherever you live; even if you return to the UK. I think some of your posts sound a bit nostalgic rather than realistic.

As both an immigrant and the child of an immigrant, I think the main difference may be that, depending on how often you visit the UK/raise her to be British, she may one day feel that she simultaneously belongs to both countries and neither. It's not necessarily a bad thing - I can't say it's disturbed me in any way, but I am aware that I do not truly belong in any of the countries that are 'mine'.

InterIgnis · 11/11/2025 13:56

Ticklyoctopus · 11/11/2025 11:34

Is France not better?

France receives more asylum applications than the UK. They also have a higher number of granted applications. So yes.

AliceMaforethought · 11/11/2025 13:46

Nevernonono · 11/11/2025 11:44

Great!

The sooner the better…. Enjoy 👋 Do let us know how wonderful it all is.

The fewer with your attitude here, the better.

Yes, all you'll be left with are Reform voters and the unemployable.

CatchTheWind1920 · 11/11/2025 12:17

I feel the same, op. It's something I really struggle with even though my kids won't know any different. I'm British, husband is German and we're in Germany with two DC.

I try to go back as often as I can but dc1 will be school age soon and it'll get more expensive and more difficult to go back for longer periods. Sometimes I debate moving back too but it's hard with Brexit and my DC have a good standard of living. Miss my family though and also want them to grow up around family so that's hard too.

Eixample · 11/11/2025 11:56

My children are a year or two older than yours and only have one English parent but they have a very strong English identity. They also have a strong local identity, one doesn’t diminish the other. Swerving the UK school system and its exam focus seems like a positive to me, as school is much nicer here, and most other things you can pass on yourself. What has helped a lot is that I am very close to my primary school friends and they have children the same age, so they slot quickly into an English environment with them when we visit. I also cook a lot with them so they are learning a variety of dishes.
I have three nationalities myself and have only really been able to pass on one, but one is doable I think.
Can you look for international schools where you are? There are some entirely British ones near us. Also making British friends with children may help you.

Hallywally · 11/11/2025 11:55

It seems weird to choose to live somewhere else but want your daughter to knows what it’s like to be “British”. If it’s that important to you, why did you move abroad?

Nevernonono · 11/11/2025 11:44

AliceMaforethought · 11/11/2025 11:28

Spain, France, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and probably various others as well. I am actually working on leaving.

Great!

The sooner the better…. Enjoy 👋 Do let us know how wonderful it all is.

The fewer with your attitude here, the better.

RubySquid · 11/11/2025 11:41

Ticklyoctopus · 11/11/2025 11:34

Is France not better?

Not a clue on France for those who go through official channels to emigrate. But I think they are less accepting of people who arrive without jobs/ income etc than the uk

Ticklyoctopus · 11/11/2025 11:34

RubySquid · 11/11/2025 11:21

Because it's better than war torn places and 3 Rd world. Not necessarily so compared to other first world countries

Is France not better?

Ticklyoctopus · 11/11/2025 11:33

AliceMaforethought · 11/11/2025 11:29

What a silly post.

What a pointless reply.

AliceMaforethought · 11/11/2025 11:29

Ticklyoctopus · 11/11/2025 11:18

The fact you even use ‘Little Englanders’ as a slur, like being an average hardworking family person living in ordinary area somehow makes you petty and bourgeois, is absolutely pathetic.

If our country is so awful why do we have record levels of immigration with millions clamouring to get in, even risking their lives to do so?

What a silly post.

AliceMaforethought · 11/11/2025 11:28

Nevernonono · 11/11/2025 11:17

where would you rather live? And why?

Spain, France, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and probably various others as well. I am actually working on leaving.

RubySquid · 11/11/2025 11:21

Ticklyoctopus · 11/11/2025 11:18

The fact you even use ‘Little Englanders’ as a slur, like being an average hardworking family person living in ordinary area somehow makes you petty and bourgeois, is absolutely pathetic.

If our country is so awful why do we have record levels of immigration with millions clamouring to get in, even risking their lives to do so?

Because it's better than war torn places and 3 Rd world. Not necessarily so compared to other first world countries

Ticklyoctopus · 11/11/2025 11:18

AliceMaforethought · 11/11/2025 10:59

Why the eye roll? It's perfectly true, despite what all the Little Englanders would have you believe. I'm not saying that anywhere is without problems, but we are on the slide for sure. No amount of conkers will make up for that.

The fact you even use ‘Little Englanders’ as a slur, like being an average hardworking family person living in ordinary area somehow makes you petty and bourgeois, is absolutely pathetic.

If our country is so awful why do we have record levels of immigration with millions clamouring to get in, even risking their lives to do so?

Nevernonono · 11/11/2025 11:17

AliceMaforethought · 11/11/2025 10:59

Why the eye roll? It's perfectly true, despite what all the Little Englanders would have you believe. I'm not saying that anywhere is without problems, but we are on the slide for sure. No amount of conkers will make up for that.

where would you rather live? And why?

AliceMaforethought · 11/11/2025 10:59

BatchCookBabe · 11/11/2025 10:13

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Why the eye roll? It's perfectly true, despite what all the Little Englanders would have you believe. I'm not saying that anywhere is without problems, but we are on the slide for sure. No amount of conkers will make up for that.

BatchCookBabe · 11/11/2025 10:55

Maddy70 · 11/11/2025 03:20

You have rose tinted spectacles about growing up in the UK. It's bloody cold, wet , divided, negative and grim. They are growing up in their culture. you can still plonk a turkey on the table at Christmas and do those "British" things

Yet, I bet you won't leave.

Also, it's NOT cold wet and grim. And if you think any other country isn't 'divided' in any way (presumably you mean politically) then you are deluded.

I get on with anyone and everyone, young and old and in between, and any class, religion, or culture. Even people with different views, and whose political views don't match mine. I can spot who is intolerant of other people who have different views and opinions and political leanings on this board a MILE off. Wink

Baninarama · 11/11/2025 10:52

Trukt · 11/11/2025 05:24

I am amused at all people being so defensive at the criticism of Britain. I was born and brought up here, and love it. But of course it’s not perfect. Why do people take it so personally when others criticise it? We don’t live in a communist dictatorship where we have to swear allegiance and adore the country and leader etc, you know!

This. I've had the good fortune to have been born with the name of a free, prosperous country on my passport but I can definitely see the place has a lot of flaws.

Presently, the number of people who seem to think England is god's own chosen land and any criticism of it is akin to treason are ironically making it a more uncomfortable place to be. I've lived all over the world - life and opportunities in the UK are pretty good. The undercurrent of weird anger swilling around at the moment isn't good.

MaggieBsBoat · 11/11/2025 10:17

Lionsandtigersandbears7 · 11/11/2025 04:52

I live in the UK ,have never lived elsewhere and I don't understand my heritage or culture..I'm not Scottish or Irish,I'd of felt more of an understanding to that ,I'm just white British..I don't feel anything making me feel I belong here ,or I'm part of being here .
Maybe I need to start a thread asking what being British means to other people

You don’t feel it as you’ve never been anywhere else. It’s the same for everyone from any country. Of course you don’t understand it’s relevance to you culturally if you’ve never been foreign.

BatchCookBabe · 11/11/2025 10:13

AliceMaforethought · 10/11/2025 22:51

You have rose tinted glasses. Conkers? She is an incredibly lucky child to not be brought up here IMO. This country doesn't have all that much going for it.

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Frikadelle · 11/11/2025 08:43

I know what you mean OP. It's particularly things at primary school which got to me - like no nativity play, no assemblies, no big sports day (which i have fond memories of).
We visit family often enough that I do feel like they have a sense of British-ness (whatever that may mean to them).
On the plus side, I envy their language skills and embrace the local childhood traditions which they participate in.

EasternStandard · 11/11/2025 07:51

Nevernonono · 11/11/2025 00:00

Why are you embarrassed to be British? Who are you embarrassed in front off?

Do you try and hide the fact you’re British?

Is this the trendy thing to say? I see it on FB a lot.

It’s on mn a fair bit too.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 11/11/2025 07:47

Nochristmasvibesasofyet · 10/11/2025 21:32

Do you feel more connection to that place or your earlier childhood?

how attached people are is surely individual.

I grew up in same place in South West... As an adult I've lived in several different places.

I feel attachment to all of these different places... Some of which I've lived at key parts in my life of over a decade.

I think beibf able to have influence from multiple places is good... Bilingialism is epic!