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My Father was convicted of sexual assault on 17 year old, should I let him see my kids + MORE

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Lordvampire3 · 09/11/2025 21:37

Hi Everyone,

This is extremely hard to post and I am looking for other insight of whether I am being unreasonable.

My Father was convicted and due to be let out of prison for sexual assault of a 17 year old (in the UK this is over consent age so wasnt charged as child offense)

My DP and I made the decision that he would not see our 4 kids when he leaves prison due to what he has done. I was talking to my brother today and they exploded saying I was being out of order to not let him see his grandkids because of what he did

Am I being unreasonable? For context 3 of my children are girls, 11 9 and 4 and out little boy is 3.

I have been talking to him once a week and havent found the courage to say he wont see them as I worried about the fallout, plus selfishly I didnt want to be the cause if he didnt something stupid inside (like off himself etc)

Any help would be appericated

OP posts:
caramac04 · 10/11/2025 17:24

NRTFT but it must have been pretty serious for him to receive a custodial sentence.
What is also troubling is it sounds pre-meditated as he changed meeting time to be alone with the minor.
You are not responsible for his mental health but you are responsible for your children’s safety and wellbeing.
I wouldn’t want to be in his company frankly.
I am not minimising any sexual
assault where a court does not decide on a custodial sentence or an apparently less planned assault but we know that many assaults don’t even make it to court.

HoppityBun · 10/11/2025 17:24

Lordvampire3 · 09/11/2025 22:23

Does anyone know how to find these remarks online? Or how to go about getting them ive called the courts and I was given a form to request but woth the nature of the case the judge can refuse me the information.

Try this - you won’t be eligible for a free copy https://www.gov.uk/apply-transcript-court-tribunal-hearing

Someone suggested Bailii.org but I don’t think you get sentencing remarks on there.

you could also try here https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/

Is your father on probation?

you can also make a Clare’s law request

Apply for a transcript of a court or tribunal hearing

How to get a transcript of a hearing: restrictions, how to apply, costs, complaints

https://www.gov.uk/apply-transcript-court-tribunal-hearing

WearyAuldWumman · 10/11/2025 17:19

Round my way, Richard Sneddon pled guilty to the lesser offence of sexual assault. He’d raped a 6 yr old.

Lennon/Katie Dolatowski was convicted of sexual assault and merely tagged. He’d tried to rape a 10 yr old.

The OP’s father was in prison. It was definitely a serious assault.

crappycrapcrap · 10/11/2025 17:15

Absolutely the right decision OP. Age is one thing but it’s also a violent and dangerous crime and means your dad is unpredictable- not something you want around your children.

WearyAuldWumman · 10/11/2025 17:15

Have checked. He’s in prison. No way way was that for a bum grab or the like.

corlan · 10/11/2025 17:14

youalright · 10/11/2025 17:11

Im not excusing his behaviour at all but there is a massive difference between rape and grapping someones bum or stroking their shoulder which both could be classed as sexual assualt without this information you can't call him a rapist.

You don't go to prison for grabbing someone's bum or stroking their shoulder!

WearyAuldWumman · 10/11/2025 17:14

youalright · 10/11/2025 17:11

Im not excusing his behaviour at all but there is a massive difference between rape and grapping someones bum or stroking their shoulder which both could be classed as sexual assualt without this information you can't call him a rapist.

Are men really sent to prison for grabbing someone’s bum?

I’ll have to check the OP - I thought that there had been a prison sentence.

youalright · 10/11/2025 17:11

WearyAuldWumman · 10/11/2025 16:59

It’s unforgivable either way. It’s sometimes the case that rapists plead guilty to a lesser offence in order to get a lighter sentence.

Im not excusing his behaviour at all but there is a massive difference between rape and grapping someones bum or stroking their shoulder which both could be classed as sexual assualt without this information you can't call him a rapist.

freshshite · 10/11/2025 17:06

Did he plead guilty or not guilty? If the latter then we know he does not wish to be accountable for his behaviour and has lied about what he did - causing further trauma to a young victim.
He is a violent sex offender.
Keep your kids safe. No people pleasing with young children in the mix.

WearyAuldWumman · 10/11/2025 16:59

youalright · 10/11/2025 16:08

Although I would imagine you are right i would still what to know the truth before making a decision. Like was it rape or sexual assault as op has said how long was he in jail for what where the circumstances. If it was actual rape unforgivable if it was sexual assualt Id want to know more.

It’s unforgivable either way. It’s sometimes the case that rapists plead guilty to a lesser offence in order to get a lighter sentence.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 10/11/2025 16:35

He would not be anywhere near my children!!!

youalright · 10/11/2025 16:08

Muffinmam · 10/11/2025 09:26

The backstory shouldn’t matter.

It‘s so hard to charge an offender with rape. Even harder getting it to trial, securing a conviction and sentencing to prison. 17 years old is still a child.

There’s no way in hell I would have a sexual predator around my children.

Although I would imagine you are right i would still what to know the truth before making a decision. Like was it rape or sexual assault as op has said how long was he in jail for what where the circumstances. If it was actual rape unforgivable if it was sexual assualt Id want to know more.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 10/11/2025 15:26

I can't believe you're even considering this to be honest.

YouAreTheCauseOfMyHeadache · 10/11/2025 15:26

Your father made the choice to sexually assault. This makes him a danger to children.

You have the parental responsibility to protect your children from predators.

Not being able to see his grandchildren is HIS fault and not yours.

And your brother can fuck off n’all for trying to coerce you to drop your guard in favour of a sex offender.

Suusue · 10/11/2025 15:22

Do not let him anywhere near you or your children. Any man who assaults a young girl/woman is not worthy of anything. Forget your stupid brother. Have nothing to do with him.

Whammyammy · 10/11/2025 15:11

Summerlovin40 · 09/11/2025 21:51

Your father was imprisoned for sexually abusing a CHILD ( under 18) and you're wondering if he should be around your children?? I'd also be concerned that your brother thinks it's normal behaviour...

100% this. Sequel assault against a minor, he'd be nowhere near my kids or grandchildren

Lemonlolly89 · 10/11/2025 15:01

Lordvampire3 · 09/11/2025 21:58

Thank you for all the people commenting so far! Its nice to feel I am not being unreasonable.

For context in why im still speaking once a week, I feel if I had stop talking to him completely and he decided to take his own life (which im sure many would say it would be no great loss considering what he did) that I would love with the guilt that my action caused his death.

Just wanted that added as I know some will be wondering why I am even in contact myself at all.

What a difficult position for you to be in. I think the question I would be asking myself is how would my children feel, when grown, of a decision to either ban or allow a convicted sex offender to have contact with them? I'm not sure I would be able to understand or forgive if my parents had knowingly allowed me, as a child, to have contact with someone potentially dangerous (even if they turned out to be no danger to me personally). It's only yours and your kids' future opinion that matters here - not your father's, not your brother's and certainly not anyone else (including on here). Good luck, and I feel for you.

Didkyle · 10/11/2025 14:52

crinkletits · 10/11/2025 14:22

I’m not worried about your kids OP as I think you’ll 100% do the right thing and keep him away, take not one risk and allow contact. However it’s your brothers kids I’m scared for what are their ages?

I am

To even consider for a nano second that she may be being unreasonable is concerning

PithyTaupeWriter · 10/11/2025 14:49

Your father has shown that he has a complete disregard for personal boundaries, and he has no respect for women. He has shown that he thinks he has a right to other people's bodies. Whether his victim was 17 or younger or older is by the by. I personally wouldn't let him anywhere me or my family.

crinkletits · 10/11/2025 14:22

I’m not worried about your kids OP as I think you’ll 100% do the right thing and keep him away, take not one risk and allow contact. However it’s your brothers kids I’m scared for what are their ages?

Overthewaytwice · 10/11/2025 14:15

You are doing the right thing and safeguarding your children.

If you allow supervised visits you have to either downplay his crime (which could lead your children to see him as a safe person and could put themselves in vulnerable situations with him when they are older).

Or you tell them the truth and risk them thinking that you are excusing his actions, or that his feelings are more important than their safety.

Andromed0 · 10/11/2025 14:04

WearyAuldWumman · 10/11/2025 12:40

It's really not the same as the slur on gay men. This is an offender who has shown predilection for sexual assault. As I've said in previous posts, there are some predators who merely attack when they find someone vulnerable.

As part of my job, I encountered two predators - some years apart. They were imprisoned for multiple offences against both adults and children. The common factor was opportunity.

I don't disagree with anything you have said. I think I'm trying to make a point that doesn't come over in social media soundbites and will stop now.

4dogsandawoman · 10/11/2025 13:32

Didkyle · 10/11/2025 13:20

Was he later convicted of rape?@4dogsandawoman

I am so sorry for what you endured x

Not of myself or my siblings. As far as I am aware none of us ever went to the police. I only told my parents years after I had my daughter. I had spoken to one of my siblings and that is when I found out I was not his only victim. He did wait until all of us were over 16.
The person he was sent to prison for raping was 17.

Nevernonono · 10/11/2025 13:30

4dogsandawoman · 10/11/2025 13:13

I did not know as I was only young and my parents lied to my older siblings.

I have no contact with my parents now, some of the reason was the response I received once I did tell them.

I’m so so sorry you were so let down.

Didkyle · 10/11/2025 13:20

4dogsandawoman · 10/11/2025 13:13

I did not know as I was only young and my parents lied to my older siblings.

I have no contact with my parents now, some of the reason was the response I received once I did tell them.

Was he later convicted of rape?@4dogsandawoman

I am so sorry for what you endured x

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