Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

My Father was convicted of sexual assault on 17 year old, should I let him see my kids + MORE

310 replies

Lordvampire3 · 09/11/2025 21:37

Hi Everyone,

This is extremely hard to post and I am looking for other insight of whether I am being unreasonable.

My Father was convicted and due to be let out of prison for sexual assault of a 17 year old (in the UK this is over consent age so wasnt charged as child offense)

My DP and I made the decision that he would not see our 4 kids when he leaves prison due to what he has done. I was talking to my brother today and they exploded saying I was being out of order to not let him see his grandkids because of what he did

Am I being unreasonable? For context 3 of my children are girls, 11 9 and 4 and out little boy is 3.

I have been talking to him once a week and havent found the courage to say he wont see them as I worried about the fallout, plus selfishly I didnt want to be the cause if he didnt something stupid inside (like off himself etc)

Any help would be appericated

OP posts:
Morningreppy · 13/11/2025 06:04

RedToothBrush · 12/11/2025 22:03

Not really.

There's a shocking disconnect here in your head.

We see your daughter's rapist as the same as any other sex offender. There is no difference. The only difference is how groomed you are.

I have no fucking idea why you'd allow any sex offender near your daughter with that in mind. It is incomprehensible that you'd not be EVEN MORE sensitive about it.

All it shows up is that you are living in FOG as I say. And that your judgement is off as a result. It's a characteristic of an unhealthy relationship and poor boundaries.

I don't think it's low. I think it's pointing out that you should really be going away and thinking about your own judgement making and behaviour and looking up FOG because you potentially making decisions which put her at risk.

We should be able to say this - it could make a real difference to a child out there - even if it's not yours.

This with bells on

Even without what your poor daughter endured at the hands of a sexual deviant, it is truly unfathomable that you aren’t well and truly on the side of the rest of us that someone offended for a sexual offence (ANY detail and ANY length of imprisonment) would not be permitted ANY access to your children @youalright

Morningreppy · 13/11/2025 06:02

youalright · 12/11/2025 23:28

Or you could accept I'm in a bad place mentally right now and just leave me alone but you won't

So if you’re in a bad place mentally, this may explain your dogmatic and frankly disturbing position on this issue.

MySilentLions · 13/11/2025 01:34

youalright · 12/11/2025 22:42

You're being a nasty bully and you can't even see it. Who repeatedly goes at someone who tells you to please stop and how much your hurting them

She’s not being a bully. She’s telling the truth and you can’t see it. She is right, your thought process is weird and off and potentially putting children at risk. I’m sorry for your daughter, I truly am, but don’t try to manipulate us with her experience.

RedToothBrush · 13/11/2025 00:25

RescueMeFromThisSilliness · 13/11/2025 00:13

The legal age of consent is 16 in the UK which is why the OP explained why this was not a child sexual abuse crime. Still sex abuse though, and clearly not consensual, hence the prison sentence.

Repellent individual. I wouldn't want any dc of mine anywhere near a convicted sex offender, whatever the age of their victim.

However....

“Abuse of Trust” law

This is not always understood but is important.

Sexual Offences Act 2003: This act forms the core of the "position of trust" legislation in England and Wales. It is illegal for individuals in specified roles (such as teachers, social workers, and religious leaders) to have a sexual relationship with a 16- or 17-year-old in their care, even if the young person consents.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/part/1/crossheading/abuse-of-position-of-trust

So there ARE circumstances where it's not legal if the child is 16 or 17.

Sexual Offences Act 2003

An Act to make new provision about sexual offences, their prevention and the protection of children from harm from other sexual acts, and for connected purposes.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/part/1/crossheading/abuse-of-position-of-trust

RescueMeFromThisSilliness · 13/11/2025 00:13

Summerlovin40 · 09/11/2025 21:51

Your father was imprisoned for sexually abusing a CHILD ( under 18) and you're wondering if he should be around your children?? I'd also be concerned that your brother thinks it's normal behaviour...

The legal age of consent is 16 in the UK which is why the OP explained why this was not a child sexual abuse crime. Still sex abuse though, and clearly not consensual, hence the prison sentence.

Repellent individual. I wouldn't want any dc of mine anywhere near a convicted sex offender, whatever the age of their victim.

youalright · 13/11/2025 00:09

RedToothBrush · 12/11/2025 23:36

You are responsible for your own actions here.
You are not a passive victim.
I am concerned about the OP.
The end.

👍

RedToothBrush · 12/11/2025 23:36

youalright · 12/11/2025 23:28

Or you could accept I'm in a bad place mentally right now and just leave me alone but you won't

You are responsible for your own actions here.
You are not a passive victim.
I am concerned about the OP.
The end.

youalright · 12/11/2025 23:31

WearyAuldWumman · 12/11/2025 23:29

I don't want to derail, but I find the different writing styles exhibited by one person rather interesting. I'm not asking anyone else to comment on that. I'm trying to keep to the rules.

With regard to the OP's question, I'll reiterate that keeping her father away from her children is the right thing to do.

If your talking about me and mean spelling and stuff I missed a lot of school due to growing up in care and being moved around a lot

WearyAuldWumman · 12/11/2025 23:29

I don't want to derail, but I find the different writing styles exhibited by one person rather interesting. I'm not asking anyone else to comment on that. I'm trying to keep to the rules.

With regard to the OP's question, I'll reiterate that keeping her father away from her children is the right thing to do.

youalright · 12/11/2025 23:28

RedToothBrush · 12/11/2025 23:23

You can leave a thread without having to reply to every post. You are not obliged to reply.

You can just leave.

You are trying to 'win the thread' here. That's not a happy or healthy place to be in.

Sometimes understanding when to walk away for your own sake is better.

Or you could accept I'm in a bad place mentally right now and just leave me alone but you won't

RedToothBrush · 12/11/2025 23:23

youalright · 12/11/2025 23:20

Im trying but you and that other poster keep posting to me

You can leave a thread without having to reply to every post. You are not obliged to reply.

You can just leave.

You are trying to 'win the thread' here. That's not a happy or healthy place to be in.

Sometimes understanding when to walk away for your own sake is better.

LemaxObsessive · 12/11/2025 23:22

Not a chance in HELLLLLLLLL would he see my DC and neither would I stay in contact with him! Why on earth are you speaking to him? He’s a sex offender ffs

Lavender14 · 12/11/2025 23:22

I'd not have him around my kids again. Sorry you're going through this op it must be so hard. I imagine your dB is struggling to match up the person he knew your dad to be and what he's done , that can take time but I think you're right to trust your instinct to protect your kids as a priority.

Are you getting any support with this? It's an awful thing to have a close family member do. If he were to hurt himself op it would be on his own back- he's deliberately done something awful and is now living out the natural consequences to that. If he decides not to accept those consequences then that's up to him. It's not guilt for you to take on in any way. There's support available to him if his mental health takes a turn. Many men who are convicted of such offences talk or threaten it but don't follow through on it. So you cannot live your life worrying about that. He is accountable for himself.

youalright · 12/11/2025 23:20

RedToothBrush · 12/11/2025 23:18

I think perhaps if you feel like this, you should take time out from the internet then.

This isn't about me.

Im trying but you and that other poster keep posting to me

RedToothBrush · 12/11/2025 23:18

youalright · 12/11/2025 23:11

Well your intention failed this is the first time in months I've had to call the crisis team i said stop and you was going to far and you just wouldn't stop. One thing I missed out is I have eupd from years of csa. I've tried so hard to turn my life around for my children but after a recent traumatic brain injury things have been more difficult. All I said was id want to know the truth of what he had done I also said there would be a 99% chance I would cut him off after I found out the truth. Im normally ok with randoms online i don't normally let them effect me but that comment about my daughter was to far.

Edited

I think perhaps if you feel like this, you should take time out from the internet then.

This isn't about me.

youalright · 12/11/2025 23:17

PyongyangKipperbang · 12/11/2025 23:16

Perhaps you should discuss your tendencies towards manipulation and victimhood when you are called out and dont like it.

Funny how you can be very aggressive until you are losing an argument.

No I know nothing about your childhood, you know nothing about mine. So why did that only just get mentioned when your according to your earlier posts, your knowledge of SA/rape is from what happened to your DD.

Nope, not buying it.

Do you want me to post a photo of my medical records or my cmht records because I will

PyongyangKipperbang · 12/11/2025 23:16

youalright · 12/11/2025 23:11

Well your intention failed this is the first time in months I've had to call the crisis team i said stop and you was going to far and you just wouldn't stop. One thing I missed out is I have eupd from years of csa. I've tried so hard to turn my life around for my children but after a recent traumatic brain injury things have been more difficult. All I said was id want to know the truth of what he had done I also said there would be a 99% chance I would cut him off after I found out the truth. Im normally ok with randoms online i don't normally let them effect me but that comment about my daughter was to far.

Edited

Perhaps you should discuss your tendencies towards manipulation and victimhood when you are called out and dont like it.

Funny how you can be very aggressive until you are losing an argument.

No I know nothing about your childhood, you know nothing about mine. So why did that only just get mentioned when your according to your earlier posts, your knowledge of SA/rape is from what happened to your DD.

Nope, not buying it.

youalright · 12/11/2025 23:12

PyongyangKipperbang · 12/11/2025 23:07

So you think that because your daughter experienced something, you understand it better than @Tigerbalmshark or me who have both experienced it, and have the sheer arrogance to tell us that we are wrong in our opinions?

How fucking dare you!

Do you know why I wasnt in court shaking and crying? Because I was bullied (actually really bullied, not called out for talking shite which is what is happening to you right now) into not pressing charges. Dont you fucking DARE suggest that there are any extenuating circumstances AT ALL that mean I or anyone else should accept someone using rape or sexual assault as a weapon against another person should be allowed "back into the fold".

Edited

You know nothing about my childhood

youalright · 12/11/2025 23:11

RedToothBrush · 12/11/2025 23:04

My intention isn't to hurt you. My intention was from the start to point out how emotive stuff is used to try and guilt others and force them into accepting sex offenders back into their lives because they are related. You are actually actively doing this right now and trying to make others shut up when they say 'no this isn't ok'.

You can do whatever you like. You can call me names if you wish. Calling anyone who disagrees with you a bully isn't really much of an argument.

This is about the OP. The OP needs to hear she is doing the right thing.

You don't like it, because of what that conversely implies.

If you need to step away from the thread, feel free to do so.

Well your intention failed this is the first time in months I've had to call the crisis team i said stop and you was going to far and you just wouldn't stop. One thing I missed out is I have eupd from years of csa. I've tried so hard to turn my life around for my children but after a recent traumatic brain injury things have been more difficult. All I said was id want to know the truth of what he had done I also said there would be a 99% chance I would cut him off after I found out the truth. Im normally ok with randoms online i don't normally let them effect me but that comment about my daughter was to far.

PyongyangKipperbang · 12/11/2025 23:07

youalright · 12/11/2025 22:59

Of course i am because your a bully and thats what bully's thrive off

So you think that because your daughter experienced something, you understand it better than @Tigerbalmshark or me who have both experienced it, and have the sheer arrogance to tell us that we are wrong in our opinions?

How fucking dare you!

Do you know why I wasnt in court shaking and crying? Because I was bullied (actually really bullied, not called out for talking shite which is what is happening to you right now) into not pressing charges. Dont you fucking DARE suggest that there are any extenuating circumstances AT ALL that mean I or anyone else should accept someone using rape or sexual assault as a weapon against another person should be allowed "back into the fold".

RedToothBrush · 12/11/2025 23:04

youalright · 12/11/2025 22:42

You're being a nasty bully and you can't even see it. Who repeatedly goes at someone who tells you to please stop and how much your hurting them

My intention isn't to hurt you. My intention was from the start to point out how emotive stuff is used to try and guilt others and force them into accepting sex offenders back into their lives because they are related. You are actually actively doing this right now and trying to make others shut up when they say 'no this isn't ok'.

You can do whatever you like. You can call me names if you wish. Calling anyone who disagrees with you a bully isn't really much of an argument.

This is about the OP. The OP needs to hear she is doing the right thing.

You don't like it, because of what that conversely implies.

If you need to step away from the thread, feel free to do so.

Tigerbalmshark · 12/11/2025 23:00

youalright · 12/11/2025 22:59

Of course i am because your a bully and thats what bully's thrive off

👍

youalright · 12/11/2025 22:59

Tigerbalmshark · 12/11/2025 22:58

I’m more than happy to carry on posting. You are the one crying about it

Of course i am because your a bully and thats what bully's thrive off

Tigerbalmshark · 12/11/2025 22:58

youalright · 12/11/2025 22:58

Well like you said to me then this thread isnt for you

I’m more than happy to carry on posting. You are the one crying about it

youalright · 12/11/2025 22:58

Tigerbalmshark · 12/11/2025 22:57

Yes, being sexually assaulted will do that to you. I have PTSD. Ask your daughter about it, you clearly have no understanding of it yourself.

Well like you said to me then this thread isnt for you

Swipe left for the next trending thread