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The BBC should lose the license fee and be forced to operate like any other streaming service after the complete destruction of trust this week

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:44

Thats it really, the BBC lied to us, all of us.

They edited a Trump speech to make him look like he said something he did not.

They pushed one side of the transgender debate relentlessly, deliberately hiding negative stories on detransitioners, the US WPATH file and thousands of more cases

https://archive.ph/wWdMS

https://archive.ph/uiEKW

They have cancelled people for wrong-think at every opportunity, pushed drag queens over women, turned woman hours into mens hour, constantly attacked anyone who does not share their extreme liberal left wing views and kept them off the news cycle

They have utterly and completely lost all trust, they ARE biased they DON'T give balance in the news

Everyone thought it was a conspiracy, now we know it's actually true and we have PROOF

Today the BBC Director and News Director have both quit in absolute disgrace.

It is time the BBC was consigned to the dustbin because we are never getting back to the BBC I loved and trusted, the one that ran programmes to inform and entertain and educate, that BBC is long gone.

Replace it, completely.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

BBC director general Tim Davie and News CEO Deborah Turness resign - live updates

Davie says "there have been some mistakes made and as director general I have to take ultimate responsibility".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

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OneBookTooMany · 10/11/2025 22:46

Somersetbaker · 09/11/2025 20:53

I don't give a fuck about Trump, but they have managed to expose misogony and racism in the Met, 2 care workers have been charged with abuse because of a Panorama investigation. Remember Trump is a fraudster who should be in prison taking care he doesn't drop the soap

Regarding your last line.

If President Trump is a fraudster, then perhaps he should be encouraged to apply for the vacant post of Director General, as being a fraudster would seem to be a key requisite for a job in the BBC.

plantcomplex · 10/11/2025 22:40

WhyThatsDelightful · 10/11/2025 22:35

One of many examples where the BBC were challenged on their editorial decisions.

Mistakes were not made, editorial policy was simply followed. That’s why the BBC has lost trust and status. Watching the endless line of celebrities saying how proud they are of the BBC just underpins the problem they have.

They simply will not listen

https://x.com/baroness_nichol/status/1988001030211002484?s=46

Maybe I'm just tired, but I don't find that letter very clear - so on that particular occasion maybe he genuinely didn't understand her point(s).

PeppyCoralTiger · 10/11/2025 22:40

IMO the BBC have utter contempt for those that pay the licence fee and see themselves in the role of Orwell's Ministry of Truth. The "light entertainment" is the 1984's "special kind of kaleidoscope known as a versificator" used to produce an endless stream of songs with "simplistic melodies and cliché lyrics" to keep the proles subdued, distracted and unaware of what might really be happening.

That's how the BBC seems to me, social engineering with a dose of fun for the masses to keep them thinking Aunty Beeb cares for them.

ITV have been following in the footsteps closely and talk to the audience as if they are all imbeciles ie News at Ten is the equivalent of Newsround back in the 70's (actually that's not fair to John Craven, it was better).

The BBC model is no longer appropriate. Younger people don't seem to even watch TV IME so the BBC may as well start planning on how to disband. It may have created great things, but handed too power power to unaccountable people who believed they were untouchable "as they control the narrative".

overstimulatedhermit · 10/11/2025 22:38

No surprise that the lefties are here defending and justifying lies from the bbc. I hope trump does Sue I will laugh my socks off. Fancy people still funding the organisation that covered up jimmy savile for years 🤮 disgraceful.

WhyThatsDelightful · 10/11/2025 22:35

One of many examples where the BBC were challenged on their editorial decisions.

Mistakes were not made, editorial policy was simply followed. That’s why the BBC has lost trust and status. Watching the endless line of celebrities saying how proud they are of the BBC just underpins the problem they have.

They simply will not listen

https://x.com/baroness_nichol/status/1988001030211002484?s=46

The BBC should lose the license fee and be forced to operate like any other streaming service after the complete destruction of trust this week
Onmytod24 · 10/11/2025 21:50

ohdelay · 10/11/2025 17:33

There was no need to manipulate the speech, but they just couldn't resist and the trust is gone now. If they can do that with a very high profile speech covered by many agencies, what else do they routinely trim and edit to make their desired message clearer. I was actually shocked at how blatant it was and the timing before the US election makes me think it was deliberately misleading and hoping to influence the vote. We're so quick to criticise Russian media when we get spoon fed agendas all the time too.

sgyer the vote? watch it again the whole point of it was after the so-called fake vote.

Ellen2shoes · 10/11/2025 21:49

KateShugakIsALegend · 10/11/2025 14:30

It is worth taking a moment to reflect on who is agitating for change and why, and who would be delighted to see the back of the BBC, and why.

It would be ironic if outrage over failures in meeting high standards led to a landscape of lower standards across the board.

We have lots of options. Let's consider them carefully.

👏

CrocsNotDocs · 10/11/2025 21:46

Here is a classic example from only 7 hours ago. The BBC’s introduction line to the article on X says “IOC moves closer to ban on transgender women”. But this of course is completely inaccurate and untrue. Transgender women (usually known as men) are perfectly entitled to try out for the Olympics in their correct sex class, just like every other athlete.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/cy4p29j4z70o?xtor=AL-71-%5Bpartner%5D-%5Bbbc.news.twitter%5D-%5Bheadline%5D-%5Bnews%5D-%5Bbizdev%5D-%5Bisapi%5D&at_link_id=A81E33F6-BE3B-11F0-80D5-DAAC0435EE80&at_medium=social&at_link_origin=BBCNews&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_campaign_type=owned&at_link_type=web_link&at_format=link

https://x.com/bbcnews/status/1987879541415559226?s=61

Can the BBC defenders in this thread justify this?

The BBC should lose the license fee and be forced to operate like any other streaming service after the complete destruction of trust this week
SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 21:43

KateShugakIsALegend · 10/11/2025 21:41

It's the answers that need considering, not the questions.

They’re all very wide open theoretically. I have no idea what people might say and what might happen.

im certain that the current trajectory is not a good one. I’ll roll the dice.

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KateShugakIsALegend · 10/11/2025 21:41

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 21:37

I don’t think any of those questions are reasons not to.

It's the answers that need considering, not the questions.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 21:37

KateShugakIsALegend · 10/11/2025 20:43

So... BBC Worldwide is already self-funding.

Would anyone tune in? Could there be any downsides or unintended consequences?

Do you think Trump, Farage, Murdoch would welcome that? Where would the Project 2025-type money be channelled?

Not objecting, just musing.

I don’t think any of those questions are reasons not to.

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Abitlosttoday · 10/11/2025 21:28

That quote made me giggle and now your response has made me laugh more.🤣🤣🤣

Abitlosttoday · 10/11/2025 21:28

EasternStandard · 09/11/2025 20:10

You can listen to the radio, I get it might be a principle thing.

That quote made me giggle and now your response has made me laugh more.🤣🤣🤣

borntobequiet · 10/11/2025 21:23

Trivial, but I was pleased that Prescott mentioned the invasion of the BBC by drag queens, one of the weirdest features of this institutional madness in my eyes.

EdithStourton · 10/11/2025 21:11

My own view - having lived in a couple of countries that didn't have one - is that a public service broadcaster is a very valuable thing.

However, the BBC needs root and branch reform, and its funding model needs a lot of thought. If it was funded by the tax payer, there would need to be considerable oversight of where the money goes.

EsmaCannonball · 10/11/2025 21:05

Entertainment is part of the BBC remit. It has always made popular light entertainment shows. The current problem is the sheer amount of those shows crowding out everything else.

Successful entertainment formats actually make the BBC money and keep the licence fee down.

If some BBC shows didn't bring in large audiences the argument would be 'Nobody wants to watch the BBC so why on earth are we paying for it.'

1dayatatime · 10/11/2025 20:57

nomas · 10/11/2025 20:07

Have you ever even run a team before, let alone a company or org?

Who is going to pay for 20,000 to be made redundant, many of whom have been there for decades?

Who is going to pay for recruiting and training 20,000 new staff?

You are correct that shutting down the entire BBC and making 22,000 people redundant simply because of BBC current affairs unacceptably and deliberately seeking to distort Trump's speech (plus anti semitism in BBC Arabic) would be throwing the baby out with the bath water.

The BBC produces some world beating entertainment and natural history programmes for example. Why should this be stopped?

The USP of BBC News and current affairs was that it held itself up to the world as a reliable and impartial and neutral source of news. Now that has clearly been shown not to be the case and amid strong allegations of institutionalised political bias in BBC news and current affairs it would be far better for the BBC to just cease its news and current affairs service.

nomas · 10/11/2025 20:50

OonaStubbs · 10/11/2025 20:34

If it is watched by 11 million people, why is it being paid for by the licence fee? Why can't advertisers or subscribers pay for it?

Because they have to provide value for money.

OonaStubbs · 10/11/2025 20:50

The BBC is like the mafia, "pay up or we won't protect you from those nasty commercial broadcasters".

PencilsInSpace · 10/11/2025 20:48

Isn't it strange how arguing with BBC supporters is just like arguing with Labour supporters?

'Yes, we might have all these glaring flaws and be absolutely terrible but you have to stick with us anyway or the bogeyman will get you'

MyLimeGuide · 10/11/2025 20:45

I cancelled my tv licence this morning 💪

KateShugakIsALegend · 10/11/2025 20:44

What other options could there be? What are the pros and cons?

What do Russia / extreme left and right factions want?

KateShugakIsALegend · 10/11/2025 20:43

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 19:57

Replace the bbc entirely with a new organisation with a new remit and charter, one that is dedicated to only filling the gaps a commercial organisation cannot or will not fill.

that means no celebrity traitors or eastenders

is does mean verifiably balanced news.

independent from the government and funded through direct taxation like any other service to the nation is.

So... BBC Worldwide is already self-funding.

Would anyone tune in? Could there be any downsides or unintended consequences?

Do you think Trump, Farage, Murdoch would welcome that? Where would the Project 2025-type money be channelled?

Not objecting, just musing.

PencilsInSpace · 10/11/2025 20:35

Although to be fair they did allow Stephen Nolan's Stonewall podcast to go out. Episodes 2, 9 and 10 are particularly relevant here but the whole thing is a cracking listen:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p09yjmph

BBC Sounds - Nolan Investigates - Available Episodes

Listen to the latest episodes of Nolan Investigates on BBC Sounds.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p09yjmph

OonaStubbs · 10/11/2025 20:34

nomas · 10/11/2025 20:27

The show which was watched by 11 million people?

If it is watched by 11 million people, why is it being paid for by the licence fee? Why can't advertisers or subscribers pay for it?