Fuck it - the government will look me

Misunderstanding how the system works.

Absolute nowhere of course but that poster can’t bear the thought that any of these posts could be from genuine posters who are fucking sick of it.

@Polaris81 For one we have huge intergenerational inequality in this country largely because of housing costs, how are you putting that down to unequal inputs?

I think it is you that is doing the gaslighting.

It's not a lie.

They fund them themselves through the portion of PIP that is awarded for that. So, out of their benefits.

But, regardless of that, what do you have against them? Do you think disabled people should be confined to their houses?

There is an awful lack of understanding across the public and media, how the Motabilty scheme actually works.
I understand there are some issues mostly regarding 'perceptions' of what someone can claim Motabilty for. The public and some in the media do not consider how difficult it is to get 12 points on that part of the PIP process.

The public should also be aware that by cutting the Motabilty scheme there are likely to be major consequences, to the British Car Industry . This if you consider the industry is propped up by the fact 25% of all new car sales come from Motabilty .

I think also what annoys many people is the perception that people are driving cars that are not affordable to them. They miss two important factors here firstly the top end cars on Motabilty always require a significant payment from the individual. Secondly the car company concerned make them available because they cannot sell that model in a normal market !

And none of them, working or not, are buying these cars without taxpayer funding. A lie is a lie, whichever way you dress it up.

Can you report the ‘bot posts’ please so MNHQ can remove the posters.

Who/where?

I have not seen any.

My previous post provides the answer you seek.

Unequal outcomes come from unequal inputs.

If you wish to compare with other countries, then I would suggest that certain individuals reliance on our welfare state, and an abrogation of responsibility amongst some, to take ownership for their life choices, might provide an answer.

What do you think?

Some people with motability cars do work.

No point trying to explain to people who didn’t pay attention in GCSE economics or don’t pay attention to how economies of countries around the world are functioning.

@WildLimePoet please explain why recognising that we have high inequality means you do not understand economics?

I’m happy to look at that as a model.

We are becoming a high taxation country alongside expensive food, expensive utilities, expensive transportation and expensive housing. This runs alongside failing infrastructure and a lack of law and order so people feel unsafe. No one voted for this ever.

She’s living comfortably because she’s getting more than people who will have worked all their lives and still can’t afford the freebies she’s getting.

The gaslighting around ‘oh, but benefits are such a pittance’ wont fly. If it really wasn’t so comfortable to live on benefits, millions wouldn’t be doing so.

It is lower than most European countries

You need to put that into context @plumclafoutis

Pensions are higher in other countries because they tend to reflect contributions, the more you pay in the more you get. We don't do that.

Read her subsequent posts.

No point trying to explain to people who didn’t pay attention in GCSE economics or don’t pay attention to how economies of countries around the world are functioning.

How is your mum ‘living very comfortably’ on the state pension which is just of £900 per month? It is lower than most European countries and cost of living is high, in particular our fuel and food bills.

People talk about ‘the government’ but forget this one has only been in for a year and a half. You can’t sort out over 18 years of austerity and bad decisions in that time. I don’t know what the solution is but it is not the fault of disabled people or pensioners surviving on the most basic of pensions. We always punch down in this country.

Me neither. I understand the discontent - but I do not think she articulated her discontent in any meaningful way; so, it was a rant about nothingness.

What's bad? How is anything you said different?

Lie. Motability cars are taxpayer funded. Almost one in 4 new cars are taxpayers buying cars for people who don’t work.

@Polaris81 I never claimed otherwise? But what does that have to do with my post? We have high inequality vs other similar countries, why do you think that is?

So you just want a Government who encourage self reliance and personal responsibility for their own lives?

Sounds a vote winner to me - Welfare for those who cannot support themselves, for genuine reasons, not the work shy and grifters.

I dunno what they don’t incentivise
I’ve lost my job through no fault of my own after being employed since I was 13 on a work permit, I also have a degree

the government gives me £400 UC and that’s it to live on until I find a new job. It just covers my mortgage. No money for gas, electric, council tax, food…