Birmingham attack gone quiet ?!

You obviously dont know about how things were before care in the Community came in.

It amazed me just how silent the news was about this attack.

What do you want the PM to do to prevent mentally ill men attacking people.

Ah yes, you’ve nailed it. I was initially horrified at the attack but when they said the perp was black, I immediately thought, ‘great, that doesn’t matter then.’ 🫤

This. I asked another PP what they suggest - to do anything “before” means locking up all mentally ill people.

Which is not feasible

Likely mentally ill.

Why would you expect it to still be big news?

I can remember when Care in the Community was introduced. Anyone who thought that it was a bad idea - presenting itself as progressive and caring but actually putting the public at risk as a way to save money - was accused of stigmatising those with mental health problems.

No just another man harming us women.

And because he's black you don't care

What do you think a PM Farage would do?

Unless we lock up all mentally ill people I really can't see how this particular kind of attack can be addressed. Years of underfunding of mental health services are coming home to roost - add into the mix drug addiction and homelessness, etc.

What do you think he should do?

Exactly but the no backbone pm wont address it.

It was a completely unprovoked attack. Reminds me a bit of the other random attack in bham in September 2020 where that man just stabbed people at random in city centre.

My comment didn’t negate yours as being valid.

I’ve no idea. The point was that the inference was it HAD to be a non genuine poster who was trying to cause trouble. Then other people rocked up to say the same.

Ive posted genuine threads about real life situations and been accused of being a non-genuine poster in the first few pages just because people couldn’t believe that such a situation could exist. It’s troll hunting and I think it’s used to shut people down. It’s also bullying but one cares about that.

You are right, always a man. But it wasn't always young white girls in care homes. Google Sikh girls groomed in the 80s, a movement called Shere Panjab highlighted it. Because of the concept of honour so much of this went unreported to authorities. This concept also made the young Sikh girls vulnerable to grooming as it was known they and their families would not report!

Then accusations of some sort of right wing agenda as they have the temerity to have consulted the Daily Mail at any point

Nothing wrong with consulting the Daily Mail - I look at that site myself on occasion.

But why would anyone only look at the DM, before starting a thread on MN, as the OP did, then declare that things had 'gone quiet' on such a serious crime?

Yes it is a proven fact. You can google it
https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/explore-mental-health/a-z-topics/black-asian-and-minority-ethnic-bame-communities

It's Bimingham, so terrifyingly nihilistic gang initiation is also a possibility. I'm really familiar with this part of Bimingham so the fact that it happened right by the shops and the station at such a busy time of the evening is just disturbing. The fact that she was stabbed in the neck. It feels like there are so many criminals now where nothing is too low or too extreme. It wasn't that long ago that an elderly lady was killed by a young woman she was trying to help inside New Street Station. They've tarted the place up but it has a really aggressive vibe from what it was like even 10 or 15 years ago. So many people and all stressed and jostling and on edge. Always the feeling of something about to kick off and you'd better not look at someone the wrong way.

Wasn't the teenage girl scout who was stabbed to death in Essex a few years ago also killed by someone as part of his gang initiation?

I was reading about that earlier, it's just appalling. According to this article

Birmingham attacks

a stun gun was recently used in an attack on a woman. It's horrific.

I’ll accept all of that if the starting point on the thread doesn’t jump straight to mental health. It absolves the individual entirely.

Do you have the statistics to prove those claims though? In other threads those claims get shut down as racism.

I do not believe that it is gaslighting in any way to suggest that poor mental health provision lies at the heart of many recent incidents. I agree it is too early to reach any conclusion on the attack in Birmingham. However, without support and adequate monitoring mental health issues do result in self harm and harm to other people. In theory if a high risk service user does not take their meds persistently then they should be sectioned. In practice it does not happen. Just saying x person is a wrong un and we will lock them up means we stand little chance in preventing a reoccurrence. The equivalent of putting the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff after people have jumped rather than at the top to stop them doing so.

There are higher levels of mental health issues amongst the black community. Higher levels of schizophrenia etc. This is a fact. Many mentally ill people are allowed to wonder round unchecked and unmedicated. I often see them in Birmingham city centre shouting, swearing and waving their arms around. I am sadly not surprised that there has been an attack. A young girl was murdered on the bus to school in Birmingham some years ago by a schizophrenic black man. The government is not willing to address the issue. They seem to think that handing someone some pills will fix them. But nobody checks that these people take medication. Many of them smoke weed or have other issues that make them worse. Some people should not be walking free and they put innocent people at risk.