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AIBU to think this tutor has an attitude?

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SoCloseToNothing1981 · 08/11/2025 21:22

First time posting on here (long-time lurker). I'm not sure what I'm looking for here tbh, maybe just a hand-hold or just (brutally) honest opinions, but I'm just feeling a bit weird about a Zoom call I had with my DS' history tutor yesterday. I might be overreacting but it's just left a bad taste in my mouth.

Me and DH decided to get DS a tutor for GCSE History. He's in Year 11 and he's had a bit of a shit time with the course. When he was choosing his options in year 9, his history teacher did recommend that he do geography instead because his essay-writing and memory surrounding dates was not good (he did roughly the same in terms of achievement in both history and geography). The thing is he is interested in it, but he just can't remember key dates very well. The thing is he wants to do history at A Level. I feel bad for him because he likes the subject, but he's just not very good at it and obviously that's problematic if he is considering this subject as a potential academic or career pathway.

So we meet this tutor and he says in our initial meeting with him that tutoring is to complement ongoing revision. I don't agree with this because I view tutoring as teaching my DS how to revise. The tutor says that he likes to do a baseline assessment with the students so he can determine their areas they need work on, which again I found a bit overkill because why are you already testing DS when you haven't taught him how to revise yet?? We scheduled a lesson for later that week, but DS was running a little bit late as he'd woken up late so we only had 30 minutes of a lesson with the tutor (it's all done on Zoom). DS thought he had been working on the Cold War that week in school and so the tutor set him some questions on the Cold War. DS, bless him, really struggled with the first question so didn't have time to look at the rest of the questions. The tutor ran through the questions with DS, and that was when DS realised he hadn't actually done the Cold War and he'd gotten the name confused with something else.

The tutoring has been going on for 2 months, and the tutor scheduled a Zoom call with me to basically tell me that we may want to reconsider choosing History as an A Level option. This really caught me off guard, and it came across as him telling me how to parent my child! He said that there are loads of issues regarding essay-writing and analysing sources and interpretations, and whilst he is totally happy to support DS with this he can't ignore the fact that if these skills aren't being mastered in Year 11 history then this is going to severely set DS back when he starts Year 12. I ask the tutor about what revision methods he has taught DS, and the tutor said that the subject knowledge is a key area of weakness, and DS apparently said to him that he doesn't make notes in the lessons because his teacher isn't good. I said to the tutor that I think DS just needs to be taught how to create his own quizzes, and how to create flashcards and mindmaps. The tutor said that with mocks coming up those "knowledge gaps" need to be filled in. But I'd prefer him to prioritise teaching DS how to revise history, and if I'm asking for a particular service surely I should receive it?

So, AIBU to think this tutor has a bit of an attitude and is overstepping the mark a bit? I don’t need him to tell us which subjects DS should or shouldn’t do at sixth form, I just want him to teach DS how to revise properly!

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CypressGrove · 08/11/2025 22:00

But when you looked for a tutor did you specify you were looking for one who specialises in revision techniques and mind maps and the like - or just look for a history tutor??

Whyherewego · 08/11/2025 22:00

It sounds like this tutor is not for you OP.

It's pretty clear you want someone to reach your DS how to revise. The tutor has been really clear upfront that is not his role and "tutoring is to complement ongoing revision".
By your admission, DS isn't good at revising and doesn't make notes. He needs to be taught the basics before attempting to prigress further.
This is not the tutoring relationship for you. He's not an unreasonable tutor, he just tutors history not revision.

FiveGoMadInDorset · 08/11/2025 21:59

Just want to add that DD got a fairly effortless 8 in their GCSE but struggled with the transition to A level for the first term or two and similarly to studying it at uni. I think it’s not the subject for him

SoCloseToNothing1981 · 08/11/2025 21:59

Hundies100 · 08/11/2025 21:52

From what you’ve written OP, I think you are an enabler of your DS. You are working yourself up trying to sort things for him, when he’s not doing the basics himself.

If it were me, I would insist he makes notes in class. This is really 101 stuff at GSCE. What’s he like in other subjects?

He actually does really well in other subjects which is why I find this whole situation frustrating.

In English he's predicted a 6, and he's quite creative when it comes to writing. He's good at Science when he's interested and he's okay at Maths.

I just don't see why history has to be treated like some impossible subject when surely if someone knows how to revise efficiently then it's a level playing field.

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MumChp · 08/11/2025 21:57

SoCloseToNothing1981 · 08/11/2025 21:55

It's interesting because I spoke with my friend this week who's a teacher. She doesn't teach history but still it's good to have her opinion.

She said she completely agrees with me that revision techniques are important, and she gave me an example she did with her own class where she set her year 10's a task where they had to make a mind-map of key themes from An Inspector Calls and then use it to plan an essay. She said even her weaker students improved loads because they could visualise the connections between characters and themes. That's exactly what I've been trying to get this tutor to do! I don't see why it's so hard to integrate something like that into a history topic and then create an essay plan afterwards. I mentioned this in the call I had yesterday with the tutor, and he was fixating on how he is not confident of DS hitting his target grade of a 5 in his mocks in December!

I'm not saying my friend is some sort of education guru, but it does beg the question of whether we're dismissing revision techniques.

I still think there's a bit of a difference between tutoring and just telling someone they're bad at essay writing, and I feel like I'm going round in circles trying to explain this to the tutor.

Why don't you totor your kid yourself if you know that much about how it should be done?

SoCloseToNothing1981 · 08/11/2025 21:55

HappyGilmorex · 08/11/2025 21:45

He said that there are loads of issues regarding essay-writing and analysing sources and interpretations

This, I think, is the crux of it; because these are the essential skills of history, and your tutor is saying your son can't do them. No amount of mind maps or skeleton diagrams will help if he fundamentally can't analyse, interpret, and write essays. A mind map might help him remember dates, but that won't get him anywhere without these skills. And the tutor is saying he can support your son with these skills, but it's going to be an uphill battle which is starting very late in the day for someone wanting to do A level.

The question is, is your son willing to undergo that uphill battle? It doesn't sound like it from your post, but it's the conversation you need to have with him.

It's interesting because I spoke with my friend this week who's a teacher. She doesn't teach history but still it's good to have her opinion.

She said she completely agrees with me that revision techniques are important, and she gave me an example she did with her own class where she set her year 10's a task where they had to make a mind-map of key themes from An Inspector Calls and then use it to plan an essay. She said even her weaker students improved loads because they could visualise the connections between characters and themes. That's exactly what I've been trying to get this tutor to do! I don't see why it's so hard to integrate something like that into a history topic and then create an essay plan afterwards. I mentioned this in the call I had yesterday with the tutor, and he was fixating on how he is not confident of DS hitting his target grade of a 5 in his mocks in December!

I'm not saying my friend is some sort of education guru, but it does beg the question of whether we're dismissing revision techniques.

I still think there's a bit of a difference between tutoring and just telling someone they're bad at essay writing, and I feel like I'm going round in circles trying to explain this to the tutor.

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zzplea · 08/11/2025 21:55

You can only revise a subject if you learnt it in the first place. If your son has "knowledge gaps" it sounds like he isn't absorbing the knowledge from his school classes to start with, so how can he revise something he doesn't know? And it sounds like you want the tutor to teach your son skills to learn and retain the subject matter from the outset, not just to revise it?

Your son has my utmost sympathy. I did history at A level and really struggled stepping up from O-level to A-level requirements and eventually failed it. A-level isn't just remembering history as a narrative of events, you're supposed to be able to analyse causes or outcomes and give your opinion. I had difficulty remembering dates, identifying the relevant parts to support an argument and not just recite a timeline, and I couldn't understand how I, as a 16 year old student, was supposed to form knowledgeable opinions on subjects that professional historians spent their whole careers researching. Why were they asking me what the causes of the English Civil War were? Go and read a book by CV Wedgwood - she's the expert!

If the tutor is saying A-level History isn't suitable for your son, it's because he knows what's required for studying at that level, not questioning your parenting skills.

MyTurnToBeCrazy · 08/11/2025 21:55

It doesn’t address the immediate issue of getting a decent grade at GCSE but what is wonderful about history is how many books and resources are available which means he can just enjoy it as a subject without having to study it.

As a history graduate who hasn’t used the degree itself in life I would say this is the best route to follow. Focus on the subjects that you can do well in, and might lead to a decent career and leave history as an extra curricular, purely enjoyment subject.

LaurieFairyCake · 08/11/2025 21:53

Tell me you’re not a teacher without telling me you’re not a teacher 😂

turning up late, demanding revision techniques rather than building a knowledge base 🤦‍♀️

Hundies100 · 08/11/2025 21:52

From what you’ve written OP, I think you are an enabler of your DS. You are working yourself up trying to sort things for him, when he’s not doing the basics himself.

If it were me, I would insist he makes notes in class. This is really 101 stuff at GSCE. What’s he like in other subjects?

Celestialmoods · 08/11/2025 21:52

It doesn’t sound like the tutor is the problem.

Octavia64 · 08/11/2025 21:52

If you wanted a tutor to teach him revision skills then you needed to look for a tutor for study skills or similar.

They do exist my DS had one at a similar age.

however in all honesty if your DS has not been taking notes and struggles with dates and doesn’t even know what time period he is studying (!!) you have a much bigger problem.

some tutors will take your money and let your kid fail, this tutor is being honest and telling you now your kid is not suited to it.

Brefugee · 08/11/2025 21:51

also i'd have an issue tutoring someone who doesn't take notes in lessons because (in the child's opinion) the teacher isn't very good.

sakura06 · 08/11/2025 21:50

The tutor was trying to help you both by explaining A level isn’t suitable. He’s also right that filling knowledge gaps is really important! There are loads of videos on websites like BBC Bitesize on how to mind map or make flash cards.

Do you know which topics he is doing and for which exam board? I would contact the teacher if you’re not sure. This will help you all to focus the revision.

https://senecalearning.com/en-GB/blog/gcse-history-revision-guide/ Good website for basic revision.

Getting the tutor to fill gaps and practise technique are probably the most helpful things.

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FiveGoMadInDorset · 08/11/2025 21:49

How can he revise history if he doesn’t have a clue what he is doing in lessons in the first place

VickyEadieofThigh · 08/11/2025 21:48

SoCloseToNothing1981 · 08/11/2025 21:44

I see all your points and I'm not going to deny that there is an issue regarding his knowledge. I think I was just not expecting the tone the tutor spoke to me in.

The first lesson where DS was late, it was mainly down to the fact that we couldn't find the laptop charger (and DS sleeping in meant we had minimised time to find said charger). I did message the tutor that we were going to be late if he wanted to grab himself a coffee or something. DS did toy with the idea of skipping the lesson altogether, but I said "no, we will still be charged" so he logged on and the tutor let out a sigh and said "right, let's get started". Just found it a bit unnecessary.

The "attitude" seems to be coming from your son and yourself, quite frankly.

I'd be sighing if - the very first tuition session - the student was late because he'd slept in.

MumChp · 08/11/2025 21:48

SoCloseToNothing1981 · 08/11/2025 21:44

I see all your points and I'm not going to deny that there is an issue regarding his knowledge. I think I was just not expecting the tone the tutor spoke to me in.

The first lesson where DS was late, it was mainly down to the fact that we couldn't find the laptop charger (and DS sleeping in meant we had minimised time to find said charger). I did message the tutor that we were going to be late if he wanted to grab himself a coffee or something. DS did toy with the idea of skipping the lesson altogether, but I said "no, we will still be charged" so he logged on and the tutor let out a sigh and said "right, let's get started". Just found it a bit unnecessary.

You are wasting your money 100% sorry.

Brefugee · 08/11/2025 21:47

SoCloseToNothing1981 · 08/11/2025 21:44

I see all your points and I'm not going to deny that there is an issue regarding his knowledge. I think I was just not expecting the tone the tutor spoke to me in.

The first lesson where DS was late, it was mainly down to the fact that we couldn't find the laptop charger (and DS sleeping in meant we had minimised time to find said charger). I did message the tutor that we were going to be late if he wanted to grab himself a coffee or something. DS did toy with the idea of skipping the lesson altogether, but I said "no, we will still be charged" so he logged on and the tutor let out a sigh and said "right, let's get started". Just found it a bit unnecessary.

your attitude is also problematic, OP.

I do tutoring and if i encountered a parent like you i would say "nope, not with me"
You need to make sure your son is on time, not oversleeping, and you need to wind your neck in telling a tutor how to do their job (teach mindmaps, quizzes and flashcards?)

You and your son need to accept that for him history is only ever going to be a hobby.

CypressGrove · 08/11/2025 21:47

SoCloseToNothing1981 · 08/11/2025 21:44

I see all your points and I'm not going to deny that there is an issue regarding his knowledge. I think I was just not expecting the tone the tutor spoke to me in.

The first lesson where DS was late, it was mainly down to the fact that we couldn't find the laptop charger (and DS sleeping in meant we had minimised time to find said charger). I did message the tutor that we were going to be late if he wanted to grab himself a coffee or something. DS did toy with the idea of skipping the lesson altogether, but I said "no, we will still be charged" so he logged on and the tutor let out a sigh and said "right, let's get started". Just found it a bit unnecessary.

You really are not doing your son any favours with your attitude. What happens when he fails in a couple of years, and then sleeps in for a job interview, etc.

HappyGilmorex · 08/11/2025 21:45

He said that there are loads of issues regarding essay-writing and analysing sources and interpretations

This, I think, is the crux of it; because these are the essential skills of history, and your tutor is saying your son can't do them. No amount of mind maps or skeleton diagrams will help if he fundamentally can't analyse, interpret, and write essays. A mind map might help him remember dates, but that won't get him anywhere without these skills. And the tutor is saying he can support your son with these skills, but it's going to be an uphill battle which is starting very late in the day for someone wanting to do A level.

The question is, is your son willing to undergo that uphill battle? It doesn't sound like it from your post, but it's the conversation you need to have with him.

Iwantsandybeachesandgoodfood · 08/11/2025 21:45

So one teacher told you that he was better off not taking it for GCSE and then a couple of years later another teacher/ tutor tells you that he wouldn’t recommend taking it for an A Level? And you’ve chosen to ignore both because “your son likes it”.
It is not a tutors job to teach your son to revise; you can do that or he could look at the millions of sources online. If there are gaps in knowledge I would absolutely focus on that at this point.
YABVU.

SoCloseToNothing1981 · 08/11/2025 21:44

I see all your points and I'm not going to deny that there is an issue regarding his knowledge. I think I was just not expecting the tone the tutor spoke to me in.

The first lesson where DS was late, it was mainly down to the fact that we couldn't find the laptop charger (and DS sleeping in meant we had minimised time to find said charger). I did message the tutor that we were going to be late if he wanted to grab himself a coffee or something. DS did toy with the idea of skipping the lesson altogether, but I said "no, we will still be charged" so he logged on and the tutor let out a sigh and said "right, let's get started". Just found it a bit unnecessary.

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Bestwishes23 · 08/11/2025 21:44

A tutor is there to fill in the gaps, not teach your DS the whole scheme of work for History. Ultimately, your DS isn't going to be able to revise content that he doesn't have general understanding of. The best way forward is to speak to the school, who will be best placed to advise on how to proceed for next year.

Brefugee · 08/11/2025 21:44

the tutor needs to sack you off as a customer. You clearly don't listen to experts and want to do your own thing (at the expense of your DS).
The teacher and the tutor have both told you history is not for your DS. Why are you insisting he does it?

It is a huge bloody thing to mistake the Cold War for something else if you want to take history

Surprisedcupcake · 08/11/2025 21:44

Is this a reverse? It must be, or all made up 😂 can't honestly believe you think you're the reasonable one after what I just read.

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