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AIBU to think this tutor has an attitude?

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SoCloseToNothing1981 · 08/11/2025 21:22

First time posting on here (long-time lurker). I'm not sure what I'm looking for here tbh, maybe just a hand-hold or just (brutally) honest opinions, but I'm just feeling a bit weird about a Zoom call I had with my DS' history tutor yesterday. I might be overreacting but it's just left a bad taste in my mouth.

Me and DH decided to get DS a tutor for GCSE History. He's in Year 11 and he's had a bit of a shit time with the course. When he was choosing his options in year 9, his history teacher did recommend that he do geography instead because his essay-writing and memory surrounding dates was not good (he did roughly the same in terms of achievement in both history and geography). The thing is he is interested in it, but he just can't remember key dates very well. The thing is he wants to do history at A Level. I feel bad for him because he likes the subject, but he's just not very good at it and obviously that's problematic if he is considering this subject as a potential academic or career pathway.

So we meet this tutor and he says in our initial meeting with him that tutoring is to complement ongoing revision. I don't agree with this because I view tutoring as teaching my DS how to revise. The tutor says that he likes to do a baseline assessment with the students so he can determine their areas they need work on, which again I found a bit overkill because why are you already testing DS when you haven't taught him how to revise yet?? We scheduled a lesson for later that week, but DS was running a little bit late as he'd woken up late so we only had 30 minutes of a lesson with the tutor (it's all done on Zoom). DS thought he had been working on the Cold War that week in school and so the tutor set him some questions on the Cold War. DS, bless him, really struggled with the first question so didn't have time to look at the rest of the questions. The tutor ran through the questions with DS, and that was when DS realised he hadn't actually done the Cold War and he'd gotten the name confused with something else.

The tutoring has been going on for 2 months, and the tutor scheduled a Zoom call with me to basically tell me that we may want to reconsider choosing History as an A Level option. This really caught me off guard, and it came across as him telling me how to parent my child! He said that there are loads of issues regarding essay-writing and analysing sources and interpretations, and whilst he is totally happy to support DS with this he can't ignore the fact that if these skills aren't being mastered in Year 11 history then this is going to severely set DS back when he starts Year 12. I ask the tutor about what revision methods he has taught DS, and the tutor said that the subject knowledge is a key area of weakness, and DS apparently said to him that he doesn't make notes in the lessons because his teacher isn't good. I said to the tutor that I think DS just needs to be taught how to create his own quizzes, and how to create flashcards and mindmaps. The tutor said that with mocks coming up those "knowledge gaps" need to be filled in. But I'd prefer him to prioritise teaching DS how to revise history, and if I'm asking for a particular service surely I should receive it?

So, AIBU to think this tutor has a bit of an attitude and is overstepping the mark a bit? I don’t need him to tell us which subjects DS should or shouldn’t do at sixth form, I just want him to teach DS how to revise properly!

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MrsHero · 08/11/2025 23:19

If he doesn't have the basic subject knowledge, learning how to revise is not going to help him very much. I'm a History teacher and the tutor's advice sounds spot on to me.

If any of his modules are covered on there, get him to look at a site called Monkeymonkeyrevision.co.uk which has 'gamified' History revison somewhat. It is very good for helping with basic factual recall.

HonoraryScouser · 08/11/2025 23:18

Tutors aren't really there to help children revise. Their job is to teach - or at least go over - content that is taught at school. As for the advice he gave you, I think that's perfectly fair really. Given that he could string you along to earn more money, it sounds like he's trying to politely give you a heads up.

JLou08 · 08/11/2025 23:15

He sounds like a really good tutor to be honest. He is thinking about what's best for your DS and sharing that. Baseline assessment is good practice. Filling knowledge gaps is more important than revision, what use is revision without having the knowledge needed to revise? You already know revision techniques, you can share these with your DC yourself.
If your DC wants to go to university he needs to do well in his A Levels. If the reality is that he may fail a history A Level then he needs to understand that and be discouraged from choosing it.

Wordsmithery · 08/11/2025 23:15

There seems little point paying a tutor and then not letting them do their job. And it's all very well talking about revision skills but if DS hasn't got even rudimentary knowledge (e.g. gets confused about what the Cold War was) then he's not at the stage to start revising. He needs to study and understand the facts before starting to learn them.
If he's not good at essays then I'd suggest avoiding an essay- based subject for A level. The students who do well are the ones who can provide cogent and insightful analysis of events, and that requires great writing skills.

nightswimming1 · 08/11/2025 23:15

titchy · 08/11/2025 23:09

Oh OP you jumped the shark! Shame I was quite enjoying this one!

I did wonder this too…

TheCheekyCyanHelper · 08/11/2025 23:15

SoCloseToNothing1981 · 08/11/2025 22:13

The thing is I can't really get rid of this tutor because my DS has had 3 history tutors because the other 2 let him down

Okay, now you have to be trolling. You are on your 3rd tutor, and you think the TUTORS and his actual TEACHER are the problem, and not your son?!

TheCheekyCyanHelper · 08/11/2025 23:13

SoCloseToNothing1981 · 08/11/2025 22:08

I do see your point about baseline assessments but I just feel like it could have been done after teaching him some strategies rather than at the very start of the tutoring journey.

As for the charger and being late, yes, I did talk to him about being more organised but the he had been up early the day before to revise.

I appreciate your point about hobbies. That said, I really think the key is that he learns how to revise properly. If he masters that, I genuinely think he can catch up on the subject knowledge.

I have sent the tutor a sample mind-map template my friend uses with her class as I thought it might help him see what I mean. He hasn't replied yet, which again is frustrating.

Wow, you really don't get it. And do you actually believe your son was up revising, if he hasn't actually taken any notes to revise from? Is he even reading the text books, if his teacher is 'failing' so much?

Canyousewcushions · 08/11/2025 23:10

The tutor sounds great. Take your DH's advice- listen to and support the expert that you're paying to help here.

And if you want them to stick around, don't send them "advice" like mindmaps by email. They see probably trying to fill in knowledge gaps to the point where your son has something to revise.

MonGrainDeSel · 08/11/2025 23:10

I mean this kindly, but I do not think that 6s or 5s in the subjects your son wants to do at A Level are good enough for him to do well at A Level and get into a university to study one of these subjects or a related subject. If the subject he likes best is one where he is struggling to attain a 5 then possibly he should look at different pathways.

The tutor is absolutely correct that there is no point in teaching revision methods to a student who has not absorbed the material when first taught it.

The baseline assessment at the start is absolutely standard and very important for the tutor to understand where your son is now.

I think you need to have a conversation with your son about how he tackles school in future. He needs, at a minimum, to be engaging with lessons and taking notes in order to revise from these in future.

But since your son is getting grades that would indicate that he's not a good candidate for A Level or further study, you probably need to start thinking about what might actually suit him in future rather than blaming the tutor for your son's lack of engagement.

And please start listening to the tutor or any future tutor and actually do what they suggest.

clary · 08/11/2025 23:10

OK loads more posts while I was drafting mine!

Inc many from the OP – so to add my thoughts – I cannot believe you sent a tutor a mind map @SoCloseToNothing1981! Of course he knows what one is.

And your English teacher friend mind-mapping AIC with her class – yes, bc they knew what the themes were. Sounds as tho your son does not know the themes and content so how would he make a mind map anyway?

Wow. If you need a study skills tutor then look for one. But I advise you to step back and let them do their job.

I agree with others tbh – a 6 in English, a possible 5 in history maybe, good at science when interested and OK at maths – not sure A levels are for him. Economics and Phil and Ethics both require excellent skills in fact learning and essay writing – not apparently his strengths, sorry OP.

jbm16 · 08/11/2025 23:10

This is crazy, there is no point teaching revision techniques if your son doesn't have the knowledge and understanding of the content.

Why do parents think they know better than the professional that teach and know what is required to pass?

titchy · 08/11/2025 23:09

SoCloseToNothing1981 · 08/11/2025 22:53

DH is trying to be supportive but I think he's a bit out of his depth. He keeps saying things like "just let the tutor do his job" but I don't think he really understands my concerns. He is the type of guy who just nods his head or goes "oh right!" when you're telling him about a situation. I try to keep DH in the loop, but at the end of the day I feel like it's my job to make sure this whole tutoring thing works out well.

DH has spoken to the tutor once. We were in South Africa for October half term and I couldn't get a signal on my phone but he could, so he contacted the tutor to ask if it was possible for him to push the lesson back an hour because we had mistimed when we would be able to get back to the hotel.

Oh OP you jumped the shark! Shame I was quite enjoying this one!

21ZIGGY · 08/11/2025 23:09

Honestly. A tutor teaches the subject not how to revise. If your child can learn other subjects and revise those, then apply that principle to history. If he doesn't know what the cold war is, then he's fucked. You can't be bothered to get your child up in time to attend the bloody lesson. You can be as upset as you want about the direct responses, but they're all right.

Hercisback1 · 08/11/2025 23:07

3 tutors in and you still don't get it. You're the problem.

nightswimming1 · 08/11/2025 23:06

Tutor sounds really good. Listen to him. if he is attempting to cover subject content with your son this is also revision of that content. As others have said - mindmaps and quizlets and all that, you could find someone to cover those skills for you?
might be be interested in Politics? Sociology? These are related subjects that may be a better fit than further studies in History.

TheCheekyCyanHelper · 08/11/2025 23:05

Hundies100 · 08/11/2025 21:36

My DD has a maths tutor. They do a baseline assessment, perfectly normal.

How is it a shock to you the tutor said to reconsider A-Level when you repeatedly refer to your DS as not being very good at history and struggling?

Revision assumes underlying knowledge. You seem to be completely missing this.

Your DS makes no notes in class. He is late for tutor, gets the wrong period of history has poor essay writing skills and no memory for dates.

You should listen to the tutor, but tutoring is also about chemistry. If you don’t like them find another.

Methinks the same thing will happen though.

Edited

I do have to say, I have a degree in history, and they don't emphasize exact dates anymore, and haven't for 20yrs. General time period is fine, because everything precise can easily be accessed thanks to the internet. (That's what my professors told me at least.) We were never tested on exact dates. Know what happened, and the time frame, and context where much more important.
That said, this kid is NOT meant for a degree in history. I question is place in higher learning entirely, if he can't even take NOTES in class, or comprehend the time periods they were talking about, to do further research.

Aluna · 08/11/2025 23:05

SoCloseToNothing1981 · 08/11/2025 22:53

DH is trying to be supportive but I think he's a bit out of his depth. He keeps saying things like "just let the tutor do his job" but I don't think he really understands my concerns. He is the type of guy who just nods his head or goes "oh right!" when you're telling him about a situation. I try to keep DH in the loop, but at the end of the day I feel like it's my job to make sure this whole tutoring thing works out well.

DH has spoken to the tutor once. We were in South Africa for October half term and I couldn't get a signal on my phone but he could, so he contacted the tutor to ask if it was possible for him to push the lesson back an hour because we had mistimed when we would be able to get back to the hotel.

Does anyone in your family actually understand what’s involved in academic work? It doesn’t sound like it.

I don’t think DS is anything like as interested in mastering history as a subject as you think he is.

According to the tutor DS has problems with subject knowledge as well as essay-writing, source analysis and interpretation. Realistically - that’s all of it.
There isn’t any part of history DS doesn’t struggle with.

Honestly, I would cut your losses, focus on history documentaries on TV, visiting historical sites, joining local history groups, DS might get more out of this.

likeafishneedsabike · 08/11/2025 23:04

OP, I mean this very kindly but your son isn’t A level calibre. Time to do some serious parenting to find him a more suitable path where he can succeed. The tutor business is a red herring - the real problem is that you need to find a suitable 16-18 course. He won’t be able to self manage enough for advanced level - the stuff about sleeping in/charger/Cold War are all red flags. It’s time to apply now for the more popular courses so have a really honest talk with him this weekend and do some searching online for a much more supportive course.

Bethany83 · 08/11/2025 23:04

Pretty speechless after what I have just read?!?

HonoriaBulstrode · 08/11/2025 23:03

You son can do history, in his spare time as a hobby.

The great thing about history is that one can come back to it at any age and study any aspect at any level. One doesn't need lab facilities or equipment (other than a laptop and internet connection). And it's a subject that that one can get more out of with a bit of maturity and life experience.

brunettemic · 08/11/2025 23:03

Sounds like the tutor gave you and your DS a wake up call and you didn’t like it.

Hons123 · 08/11/2025 23:02

Change the tutor and explain to the new tutor what you want to be taught - i.e. methodology of learning history plus the subject. Increase the hours, ask the teacher to use a textbook, a proper history textbook. For goodness sake, this is not preparation for a Field's Medal entry.

MumChp · 08/11/2025 23:00

SoCloseToNothing1981 · 08/11/2025 22:53

DH is trying to be supportive but I think he's a bit out of his depth. He keeps saying things like "just let the tutor do his job" but I don't think he really understands my concerns. He is the type of guy who just nods his head or goes "oh right!" when you're telling him about a situation. I try to keep DH in the loop, but at the end of the day I feel like it's my job to make sure this whole tutoring thing works out well.

DH has spoken to the tutor once. We were in South Africa for October half term and I couldn't get a signal on my phone but he could, so he contacted the tutor to ask if it was possible for him to push the lesson back an hour because we had mistimed when we would be able to get back to the hotel.

Leave your child's education to your husband. Check out.

BetterWithPockets · 08/11/2025 23:00

Sounds to me OP as though you don’t want a history tutor; you want someone to teach your DS some learning/revision strategies (as you’ve repeatedly mentioned here). The two are completely different things, though.

Doobedobe · 08/11/2025 23:00

You are entirely unreasonable.
Laptop should have been charged the night before if this is so important to you and your son that you are willing to pay a tutor.
Learning how to revise isnt something you need to pay a specialist history tutor for. You can look this up yourself on the internet and help your son. Plus revision methods are unique to a person. What works for one person does not work for another. You have to work this out yourself. There are apps, flashcards, writing it down repeatedly, watching videos, making wall charts, a hundred different ways to try and remember facts and dates.
Your son sounds like he actually has very little interest in history as an academic subject and is also not well suited to the subject. Or he would be really engaged in class, surely.
What subjects is he doing well in? I would focus on getting the best grades in the ones is is really engaging in the lessons at school and is good at. Maybe look at career choices that play to his skills with him. It sounds like the history dream is not really working out.
Maybe he will come back to it in later life as a career choice or maintain it as a hobby interest which many people do.

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