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To stop being polite about this

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Elconejorojo · 08/11/2025 20:22

I'm a Brit living abroad, been there many years and speak the local language fluently though with an accent. Am tall and blond, most people here are smaller and darker than me.

I'm absolutely fed up with shop assistants etc trying to speak English to me after I ask them a question perfectly in the local language. There is clearly no need to switch language- i appreciate they are excited to show off their English or want to offer good customer service or whatever, but increasingly it just feels like I'm being reminded that I'm foreign and need to get back in my box.

WIBU for telling them that their unnecessary attempts to speak English make me feel like an outsider? A few times, I've asked people if they are speaking to me in English because I look foreign, and that shuts them up, but my partner (a local) says that's rude.

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FluentOP · 09/11/2025 08:01

EmpressaurusKitty · 08/11/2025 20:23

Maybe let them speak English to you but keep replying in the local language?

I agree with this. They are obviously just trying to be friendly to you.

BusterGonad · 09/11/2025 07:55

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MrsDoubtfire1 · 09/11/2025 07:54

You have a chip on your shoulder. I worked with a few Polish people and there was one woman who insisted on speaking to our colleagues in Polish, thus leaving me out. Everyone of them answered her in English as i was part of the team. My point, stick with the native language and answer them in that. They will soon pick up your drift. You won't feel like a foreigner, won't need to be rude, and they can go practise their English elsewhere on the net. They are probably just trying to show off but it is not meant with ill intent, it is meant with a friendly touch.

5128gap · 09/11/2025 07:54

Elconejorojo · 08/11/2025 20:37

No i don't think they're trying to either - i said that in the OP. But the consequence is the same, can't spend a day in my local city without being reminded several times that I don't belong there.

I could definitely just ignore their English but it does feel awkward!

Being 'reminded that you don't belong' in a city more typically takes the form of hostility. Refusal of service on a poor excuse. Bad service. Racial slurs, bricks through your windows, attacks and assaults, stereotyping you as the cause of all ill in the society. That kind of thing.
It sounds like the local population are treating you with a courtesy that many people 'foreign' in a city would be extremely grateful for.

Elconejorojo · 09/11/2025 07:52

Didkyle · 09/11/2025 07:26

Op is completely fluent

do you work op? Have colleagues? Made friends?

I do. I work in an international company with a mix of locals and internationals and happily speak both languages there. I also have friends (mostly my partner's friends and their partners), all of whom are local. Due to moving here with my partner (it's his home town) I've never really met many British expats.

I think that's why it's so jarring. All week I feel like I'm just one of the crowd going about my day-to-day life and then, in the city, im reminded that I'm quite clearly foreign. It makes me feel like a fool and an idiot.

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ThrushorSparrow · 09/11/2025 07:47

Sartre · 09/11/2025 06:13

You should learn French instead and move there. They wouldn’t do this, they generally do anything possible to avoid speaking English.

That's certainly not been my experience and I speak passable French.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 09/11/2025 07:42

They want to practise their English, that’s all.

Didkyle · 09/11/2025 07:30

I am guessing the OP hasn’t carved out much of a life for herself in terms of work colleagues and friends.

Because if you worked - then your day would be spent conversing with colleagues in the language.

If you had made friends - then you would converse with them in the country’s language

So most of your days would be full of conversing with people in the language. So the odd shop assistance assuming English would be water off a duck’s back.

The fact the op so exercised by it - indicates she doesn’t get much opportunity on a day to day level to converse closely with people in the language

Didkyle · 09/11/2025 07:26

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 09/11/2025 07:24

This used to drive me crazy when I was living as an au pair to learn a language. Almost impossible to get anyone to reply to me in their language but I so wanted the practice! I was actually very good at speaking it but that didn’t seem to matter so totally get how frustrating it is.

Op is completely fluent

do you work op? Have colleagues? Made friends?

Didkyle · 09/11/2025 07:25

Goodness OP, you must be unhappy about quite a lot in life

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 09/11/2025 07:24

This used to drive me crazy when I was living as an au pair to learn a language. Almost impossible to get anyone to reply to me in their language but I so wanted the practice! I was actually very good at speaking it but that didn’t seem to matter so totally get how frustrating it is.

noworklifebalance · 09/11/2025 07:15

Elconejorojo · 08/11/2025 20:39

Is it wise though to judge people on the way they look? What would you consider looks foreignand therefore needing special treatment in the UK? Might you treat someone differently because of their colouring, like I am treated here?

Edited

You clearly don’t look like a native so it’s not unreasonable for the locals to think you are not a native. Therefore, they are probably trying to be polite by speaking to you in a language you may both have in common.
Do you live in an area that is not very diverse and so majority look “native” ?

InterestedDad37 · 09/11/2025 07:12

It can be frustrating OP, but just roll with it. I was in your situation when I lived abroad, fluent in local language, and yes, people practised their English on me. Generally I didn't mind. Sometimes it led to interesting conversations.

CallItLoneliness · 09/11/2025 07:08

Elconejorojo · 08/11/2025 22:03

This is exactly how I feel, but you have described it much more eloquently. Sorry that it's tough for you as well 😔

You know, English (and I do mean English, rather than British) people are often the same (and with less reason) and often make it quite clear that they think they are better than wherever you're from as well. It deosn't make how you're being treated ok, but it might give you cause to reflect that it's at least not as bad as it could be.

Lairymary · 09/11/2025 07:06

I would assume that they are detecting that you are not native from your accent and are excited to be able to maybe practice English or trying to make you feel welcome. As someone that has moved to another European country with a difficult language to master, I would find this heartwarming, I wouldn't be offended. In my experience, if someone is trying to belittle you because you are different or be racist, they would make it more difficult to interact with you (even if they could speak English perfectly).

Travelodge · 09/11/2025 07:04

You’re trying to fight against reality. From what you say, you will always stand out as foreign because you look and sound foreign. This is not going to change so you might as well accept it.

People speak English to you because they think they are being polite and helpful. If you don’t like it, just say (in the local language) "I’d rather we speak in Xlanguage". That’s all you can do.

LAMPS1 · 09/11/2025 07:03

Do you actually 100% feel that you belong there OP or do you still feel like a bit of an imposter. You are letting their kindness and good manners irk you when you could just smile and say please let me practise my Japanese or Italian or Portuguese or whatever.
It is what it is and if people aren’t being racist or unkind then it’s nothing to get upset about. You just have to be patient and go with it, - with good heart.

Manova14 · 09/11/2025 07:00

I voted yabu because

A. English is a lingua Franca, people speak it in so many countries and it's a useful language to have. Of course they want to practice it whenever there's a chance.

B. You would be very unreasonable to stop being polite to shop assistants who are just trying to give you good service. Especially if there is food service involved.

Mere1 · 09/11/2025 06:54

AsMyWhimsy · 08/11/2025 20:36

I’m not sure what your issue is. You’re obviously foreign. You speak with a foreign accent, you look foreign. People treat you as if you’re foreign, and imagine they’re doing you a favour. They aren’t, but they aren’t to know that.

I too think you’re being over sensitive. Accents cause interest/curiosity, even within the UK. Even within England. We are northerners. Our grandsons live in London. Their accents are sometimes a topic of conversation here. Our 4 year old asked why we pronounced ‘bath’ and ‘jump’ differently on his last visit. People notice differences. That’s life.

Neodymium · 09/11/2025 06:51

Can you just look at them blankly and say you don’t speak English in the local language?

my friend is going to Japan soon to learn Japanese and this is one of his worries, he wants to learn Japanese and speak it but he knows that soon as they look at him they will try to speak English. I told him to instead say in Japanese sorry I am German or something 😂. Assuming that not many people in Japan would speak German.

Inilp · 09/11/2025 06:48

What would happen if you smiled and said, in the foreign language, ‘is it ok if we continue speaking in xxx as I love using your language?’ Do you think they would object?

BlueEyedBogWitch · 09/11/2025 06:45

Elconejorojo · 08/11/2025 21:19

Oh yes... and you have to wait while they try to say a whole sentence in English, knowing how much easier it would be in the local language!

Could you not use the local language to thank them for trying and say ‘it’s not necessary, we can do this in Spanish/Korean/Whatever’?

Ellie1015 · 09/11/2025 06:45

You have to look at their intention which is to be helpful. I would see it as accepting/welcoming. Not an insult. YABU

UnderTheStarryNight · 09/11/2025 06:41

Maybe they think they’re being helpful? Maybe they want to practice their English? Maybe you’ve just told them that their cat is shagging their mother rather than asking the price of pasta, who knows 🤷‍♀️

There’s loads of reasons they might do it. Don’t get annoyed.

Movingon2024 · 09/11/2025 06:38

You could see it as a contribution you are making to your city.
the city has embraced you, ad you have built a life there. In return, you can offer some. It’s citizens a little English light conversation when they ask for it.

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