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AIBU to stop sending my kids to help my pregnant SIL now that she’s said she can’t pay?

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broodymamma · 08/11/2025 18:41

Feeling a bit conflicted and could do with some honest opinions.
My SIL is pregnant and has been told to take it easy for medical reasons. She’s got four children aged between 19 months and 7 years. She recently sent me a message saying:
“Hi. Is there any chance one of your girls would be able/want to help round here supper/bedtime for the next few days? Happy to pay.”
I’ve got a big family — 9 kids in total — and several of my older ones are very responsible. They were delighted to help out. My SIL is especially close to them, as she used to help me a lot when she was a teenager and I was having my family. She was amazing when my second was born at 29 weeks and my eldest was only 16 months. I didn’t officially pay her back then, but I did treat her in other ways (inviting her and her friends for supper, taking her on holidays etc).
I set up a little rota so one of my daughters could go over each evening after school. It wasn’t the easiest thing to manage — our eldest is 17 and youngest is 3 months — so I had to keep track of whose turn it was and make sure supper was ready for when they got home.
Since she’d said she was happy to pay, I let her know that my two younger girls (10 and 12) would get £1.50/hr and the older ones (14, 16, 17) £4/hr. With the rota, it came to about £25 a week for 10 hours total — which I thought was very reasonable.
A few years ago, I wouldn’t have asked for payment, but we’ve recently lost our main income stream and my DH’s new job doesn’t quite cover our needs. Things are very tight, so I thought this would be a way for the kids to help out and also earn a little pocket money for things I can’t currently afford.
It all went well for two weeks, then she messaged to say she’d try to manage without them. Reading between the lines, I think it was because of the cost.
The next day she texted:
“Kids so disappointed that no one came today. Each one came home and straight away asked who was coming today :)”
I replied:
“So cute. It’s so nice that my girls have had the opportunity to spend time with their cousins.”
Then she said:
“They more than welcome to keep coming if they especially want. Just can’t keep paying if you know what I mean…”
My kids say they’d be happy to keep helping without pay. DH says I’m being mean if I stop them, especially as SIL helped us a lot years ago without being paid (though I did repay her in other ways).
The thing is, my house is quite chaotic and I really notice the difference when one of the girls is missing each evening.
So —
AIBU to stop sending them now that she’s said she can’t pay?
Would it be cheeky to ask MIL if she’d like to sponsor the payment, since it would help her daughter and give my girls a bit of pocket money?
Or should I just let it go and send them anyway?
Was I asking for too much money in the first place?
Apologies for the long post, and thanks if you made it to the end!

OP posts:
CrabbMcCrab37 · 08/11/2025 20:16

So unreasonable. I can't believe you fixed an hourly rate for the children. Incredible. Surely this isn't real

whistlesandbells · 08/11/2025 20:15

Do you pay your older children if they look after their younger siblings OP? You may want to consider it - recognize their labour.

DarkEyedSailor · 08/11/2025 20:13

Biscoffbiscuits · 08/11/2025 20:11

Yet another oldest daughter here, this time six children… three boys and three girls. Boys were not allowed to do any chores (it’s emasculating) and my two sisters were 7/9 years younger than me. On a Saturday (from age of about 12) I was expected to do a weeks wash, including bedding, for eight people. We had a twin tub, no tumble drier in those days. Had to wash/clean up after dinner every night. Also expected to babysit most nights while parents swan off to pub/bingo. I learned a lot. Two children of my own, who enjoyed a carefree childhood where the only expectation was to do well in school and they did. I was extremely jealous of friends who did not have my life.

Very similar to me. I did terribly in school because I always had children to look after. My siblings have very different lives to me.

Gonners · 08/11/2025 20:12

I see it started out as: “Hi. Is there any chance one of your girls would be able/want to help round here supper/bedtime for the next few days? Happy to pay."

Then suddenly it was two weeks later ... I'd leave it up to your own children to decide if they want to do it.

itbemay1 · 08/11/2025 20:12

TheFlis · 08/11/2025 18:44

I can’t imagine not helping family in their time of need and would never take payment from them. It’s just what you do for close family.

Me too. This all seems v odd to me!

TheAutumnalCrow · 08/11/2025 20:12

LiteraryBambi · 08/11/2025 19:05

This is wild. Who has 9 kids nowadays??

The poster known as @broodymamma. They may be a blended family. Or not.

TappyGilmore · 08/11/2025 20:11

If the girls want to go then I’d let them. But I don’t totally agree with those saying that you should help for free because it’s family and she has helped you in the past - yes that applies to you, I don’t think it necessarily applies to pre-teen and teenage daughters who will have lots of other stuff going on in their free time like school work, socialising and hobbies. And the bottom line is that she did offer to pay so that was the original agreement.

It would be absolutely unreasonable to ask MIL to get involved as it’s nothing to do with her, and your SIL might be quite embarrassed if you did that.

Biscoffbiscuits · 08/11/2025 20:11

SilentAndQuietLight · 08/11/2025 19:55

Another oldest daughter of many checking in to agree.

Your daughters should be focusing on their own schoolwork, hobbies and socialisation. It is not their job to subsidise the reproductive choices of either you or their auntie.

If they want to go help their aunt during this medically complex episode, that's to their credit. But between times they should not be looking after your children or your (considerable, due to the choices you've made) domestic responsibilities for you. Own your choices and woman up.

I've seen my mother twice in the past 16 years, if you want to know how this shakes out when the daughter-housemaids attain autonomy.

Yet another oldest daughter here, this time six children… three boys and three girls. Boys were not allowed to do any chores (it’s emasculating) and my two sisters were 7/9 years younger than me. On a Saturday (from age of about 12) I was expected to do a weeks wash, including bedding, for eight people. We had a twin tub, no tumble drier in those days. Had to wash/clean up after dinner every night. Also expected to babysit most nights while parents swan off to pub/bingo. I learned a lot. Two children of my own, who enjoyed a carefree childhood where the only expectation was to do well in school and they did. I was extremely jealous of friends who did not have my life.

MumWifeOther · 08/11/2025 20:10

You are being mean and your daughters should be able to decide for themselves.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 08/11/2025 20:09

No5ChalksRoad · 08/11/2025 20:07

And then people gripe that women’s work isn’t valued.

Because clearly even at a young age they will be pressured and guilted into providing unpaid caregiving labour.

If you can’t help out your own family with a bit of time on a temporary basis without being paid for it then you are leading a sad lonely life in my opinion.

DarkEyedSailor · 08/11/2025 20:09

TomatoSandwiches · 08/11/2025 19:48

As the eldest of 5 let me enlighten you.

Basically the mother (op) parentifies her older daughters by making them look after or provide care for several of the other younger ones, because she's had too many children to cope with on her own and doesn't want to or can not pay for additional help.

As the oldest of seven, this is it, yes.

Silverbirchleaf · 08/11/2025 20:07

How far away do they live? A daily commitment is quite alot, and how long is she expecting this arrangement to last?

Maybe rein back abit so it’s not every day.

(And on other mn threads, the person expecting a daily commitment free of charge would be considered a cf).

No5ChalksRoad · 08/11/2025 20:07

ToKittyornottoKitty · 08/11/2025 19:53

Sounds like you have a lovely family. Only help each other if there’s money in it.

And then people gripe that women’s work isn’t valued.

Because clearly even at a young age they will be pressured and guilted into providing unpaid caregiving labour.

Rainbows41 · 08/11/2025 20:06

By your own admission you have several days older children who are very responsible. Your sister shouldn't have even had to ask for help.
Given that you have more than one who is adequate at helping you with your children, how can you not manage without one of them?
You come across as very self centred.
Regardless of whether you think you repair your sister when she was younger, she helped you without expecting a penny from you let alone setting a formally agreed wage.
Where's your husband and why isn't he helping you and the kids out?
Why are you struggling to manage them and to pay for stuff.

Zazazoolly · 08/11/2025 20:05

broodymamma · 08/11/2025 18:41

Feeling a bit conflicted and could do with some honest opinions.
My SIL is pregnant and has been told to take it easy for medical reasons. She’s got four children aged between 19 months and 7 years. She recently sent me a message saying:
“Hi. Is there any chance one of your girls would be able/want to help round here supper/bedtime for the next few days? Happy to pay.”
I’ve got a big family — 9 kids in total — and several of my older ones are very responsible. They were delighted to help out. My SIL is especially close to them, as she used to help me a lot when she was a teenager and I was having my family. She was amazing when my second was born at 29 weeks and my eldest was only 16 months. I didn’t officially pay her back then, but I did treat her in other ways (inviting her and her friends for supper, taking her on holidays etc).
I set up a little rota so one of my daughters could go over each evening after school. It wasn’t the easiest thing to manage — our eldest is 17 and youngest is 3 months — so I had to keep track of whose turn it was and make sure supper was ready for when they got home.
Since she’d said she was happy to pay, I let her know that my two younger girls (10 and 12) would get £1.50/hr and the older ones (14, 16, 17) £4/hr. With the rota, it came to about £25 a week for 10 hours total — which I thought was very reasonable.
A few years ago, I wouldn’t have asked for payment, but we’ve recently lost our main income stream and my DH’s new job doesn’t quite cover our needs. Things are very tight, so I thought this would be a way for the kids to help out and also earn a little pocket money for things I can’t currently afford.
It all went well for two weeks, then she messaged to say she’d try to manage without them. Reading between the lines, I think it was because of the cost.
The next day she texted:
“Kids so disappointed that no one came today. Each one came home and straight away asked who was coming today :)”
I replied:
“So cute. It’s so nice that my girls have had the opportunity to spend time with their cousins.”
Then she said:
“They more than welcome to keep coming if they especially want. Just can’t keep paying if you know what I mean…”
My kids say they’d be happy to keep helping without pay. DH says I’m being mean if I stop them, especially as SIL helped us a lot years ago without being paid (though I did repay her in other ways).
The thing is, my house is quite chaotic and I really notice the difference when one of the girls is missing each evening.
So —
AIBU to stop sending them now that she’s said she can’t pay?
Would it be cheeky to ask MIL if she’d like to sponsor the payment, since it would help her daughter and give my girls a bit of pocket money?
Or should I just let it go and send them anyway?
Was I asking for too much money in the first place?
Apologies for the long post, and thanks if you made it to the end!

If I was pregnant and not well, I would be unbelievably hurt if my sister asked me to pay her kids for helping out! Not to mention that this is likely to hurt your relationship forever. Also, it’s sending a terrible message to your kids about kindness and doing the right thing. Awful!

Starlight7080 · 08/11/2025 20:05

I think you all should stop having children if you need them to earn money and chip in .
Also they should be doing homework/activities. Not babysitting or whatever it is they do.
All sounds very money grabbing and not in the best interest of any of the children .
Send your dh round to help!

Dibminoupqh · 08/11/2025 20:05

KirstenNotKristen · 08/11/2025 20:02

Op said she only has one boy who is 3…I’m guessing he is the youngest so they kept trying until they got the boy

Her original post said her youngest was 3 months old and then later on in the thread she said she had a 3 year old son so I don't think your theory is correct

ToKittyornottoKitty · 08/11/2025 20:04

KirstenNotKristen · 08/11/2025 20:02

Op said she only has one boy who is 3…I’m guessing he is the youngest so they kept trying until they got the boy

Well you are guessing wrong , it says in the OP they have a 3 month old

steff13 · 08/11/2025 20:04

TheFlis · 08/11/2025 18:44

I can’t imagine not helping family in their time of need and would never take payment from them. It’s just what you do for close family.

So many people want a "village" but don't want to be a "village."

localbutterfly · 08/11/2025 20:02

I think your SIL muddied the waters by saying "happy to pay" when she in fact could not pay. But if the girls want to help and don't mind the pay stopping then I'd let them as long as you don't think they're being overworked or exploited. If their going is causing you time and energy - organizing the rotation, getting them, ready, advising them on any problems, perhaps taking them back and forth - pass all of that to your husband.

KirstenNotKristen · 08/11/2025 20:02

LiteraryBambi · 08/11/2025 19:05

This is wild. Who has 9 kids nowadays??

Op said she only has one boy who is 3…I’m guessing he is the youngest so they kept trying until they got the boy

MikeRafone · 08/11/2025 20:01

Or should I just let it go and send them anyway?

just let them go anyway, you didn't pay SIL when she was a teen and as you said paid in other ways - maybe SIL will see her nieces alright in other ways at a later stage

PretendToBeToastWithMe · 08/11/2025 20:01

broodymamma · 08/11/2025 18:41

Feeling a bit conflicted and could do with some honest opinions.
My SIL is pregnant and has been told to take it easy for medical reasons. She’s got four children aged between 19 months and 7 years. She recently sent me a message saying:
“Hi. Is there any chance one of your girls would be able/want to help round here supper/bedtime for the next few days? Happy to pay.”
I’ve got a big family — 9 kids in total — and several of my older ones are very responsible. They were delighted to help out. My SIL is especially close to them, as she used to help me a lot when she was a teenager and I was having my family. She was amazing when my second was born at 29 weeks and my eldest was only 16 months. I didn’t officially pay her back then, but I did treat her in other ways (inviting her and her friends for supper, taking her on holidays etc).
I set up a little rota so one of my daughters could go over each evening after school. It wasn’t the easiest thing to manage — our eldest is 17 and youngest is 3 months — so I had to keep track of whose turn it was and make sure supper was ready for when they got home.
Since she’d said she was happy to pay, I let her know that my two younger girls (10 and 12) would get £1.50/hr and the older ones (14, 16, 17) £4/hr. With the rota, it came to about £25 a week for 10 hours total — which I thought was very reasonable.
A few years ago, I wouldn’t have asked for payment, but we’ve recently lost our main income stream and my DH’s new job doesn’t quite cover our needs. Things are very tight, so I thought this would be a way for the kids to help out and also earn a little pocket money for things I can’t currently afford.
It all went well for two weeks, then she messaged to say she’d try to manage without them. Reading between the lines, I think it was because of the cost.
The next day she texted:
“Kids so disappointed that no one came today. Each one came home and straight away asked who was coming today :)”
I replied:
“So cute. It’s so nice that my girls have had the opportunity to spend time with their cousins.”
Then she said:
“They more than welcome to keep coming if they especially want. Just can’t keep paying if you know what I mean…”
My kids say they’d be happy to keep helping without pay. DH says I’m being mean if I stop them, especially as SIL helped us a lot years ago without being paid (though I did repay her in other ways).
The thing is, my house is quite chaotic and I really notice the difference when one of the girls is missing each evening.
So —
AIBU to stop sending them now that she’s said she can’t pay?
Would it be cheeky to ask MIL if she’d like to sponsor the payment, since it would help her daughter and give my girls a bit of pocket money?
Or should I just let it go and send them anyway?
Was I asking for too much money in the first place?
Apologies for the long post, and thanks if you made it to the end!

Yikes, I thought it was all sounding okay until you said your daughters are happy to go even without payment but you yourself find it more difficult when the eldest aren’t home. This makes it sound like you’ve been weighing up how much their (unpaid) labour is worth to you. Just let them decide what they want to do, surely.

MummaMummaMumma · 08/11/2025 20:00

She helped you out... Your daughter going over is not you returning the help. It's not you helping, you're not helping at all.
Also, it's very sad that you really notice the difference on the chaos when they're not home. Poor kids.

IwishIhadcheese · 08/11/2025 20:00

She’s family, your dc want to help her- why don’t you?

You are pimping out your daughters.

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