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AIBU to be upset when Mum's have been banned from my child's team tour?

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Momoftwoscallywags · 08/11/2025 10:39

I have previously posted that my DS (13 years old) plays a team sport and that his team have had some new coaches this season.

Recently, the usual tour details were posted by one of the new coaches and it was stated that Mum's shouldn't be going on tour, as apparently this is traditional in this particular sport? And that if Dad's couldn't go, and you didn't want your child going alone, then an appropriate male guardian would be acceptable in their place.

Well, as you could image this has caused an up roar and did lead to a last minute change of heart by the coaches but I get the impression that the coaches didn't do this willingly and that they were told to do so by the club, but I am not 100% sure of this.

So now there are no Mum's on this tour and, shockingly, some of the kids haven’t been able to go on the tour because of their personal circumstances.
And, setting aside all the gender discrimination in this situation, it is this which I truly think is the most upsetting part of it all, as team sport should be for all kids and the coaches should be bending over backwards to make this happen for every kid, regardless of circumstances.

OP posts:
hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 11:58

JadeSquid · 08/11/2025 11:57

I haven't seen that. How would they stop people turning up at the venue and joining other spectators?

Apparently he mums are banned

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 11:58

JadeSquid · 08/11/2025 11:56

They said in the OP.

So they take a male chaperone.

hahaha!!
Such positive role modelling.

JadeSquid · 08/11/2025 11:57

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 11:56

Apparently they are on this tour as well as the hotel.

I haven't seen that. How would they stop people turning up at the venue and joining other spectators?

JadeSquid · 08/11/2025 11:57

InterestedDad37 · 08/11/2025 11:56

No, but then they're literally sidelined 👍

Because they can't stay in the hotel for this tour?

EveryChairIsWobbly · 08/11/2025 11:56

Franpie · 08/11/2025 11:26

This is all just for the dads benefit. They want to go off on tour and get tanked up without any pesky wives around. No more, no less.

Absolutely terrible but the way it’s always been with rugby as I understand it.

💯 this.

If it’s rugby, it’s “under 13s” meaning some of the boys will be 12. Year 8.

Lots of positives about rugby and team sports but the drinking culture isn’t one of them.

Mums being there means things will get dampened and some of the boys will prefer to hang out with their sober parent instead, meaning the whole boozing vibe gets ‘spoilt’ for those who wanted to get shitfaced. Its all about the dads fun, they don’t even realise how bored the 12/13 year olds get when their parent is drunk, rambling and repetitive. And it’s the perfect environment to encourage young teens to drink and then the dads feign horror the next day whilst also slapping their boy on the back for being one of the lads.

PreciousTatas · 08/11/2025 11:56

OneAmberFinch · 08/11/2025 11:53

"It's so awful that boys only have Andrew Tate as a role model of how to be a man"

"Okay, we're organising a males only sports trip which will encourage father-son male bonding and give teenage boys a productive channel for all their energy and competitiveness"

"No, not like that!"

Oh. Well, when you put it like that.

I didnt realise there was only a choice between 'andrew tate' and 'Boys with dead or absent fathers either can't go, or the coach needs to have unsupervised access to them on the trip for...reasons.'

There is plenty of male bonding between the coaches and the other boys while playing the sport? What kind of bonding will be happening outside of the sport in the hotel room that needs mothers to not be present?

JadeSquid · 08/11/2025 11:56

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 11:55

and the ones who don't have a dad or a coach that is female.

How does that work?

They said in the OP.

InterestedDad37 · 08/11/2025 11:56

JadeSquid · 08/11/2025 11:54

Are women banned from the sideline?

No, but then they're literally sidelined 👍

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 11:56

JadeSquid · 08/11/2025 11:54

Are women banned from the sideline?

Apparently they are on this tour as well as the hotel.

MrsDoubtfire1 · 08/11/2025 11:55

I am sure that under modern legislation this is sexist. Is there anyway you can get this checked out and go to whomever is above the coach. He sounds like an MCP.

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 11:55

OneAmberFinch · 08/11/2025 11:53

"It's so awful that boys only have Andrew Tate as a role model of how to be a man"

"Okay, we're organising a males only sports trip which will encourage father-son male bonding and give teenage boys a productive channel for all their energy and competitiveness"

"No, not like that!"

and the ones who don't have a dad or a coach that is female.

How does that work?

JadeSquid · 08/11/2025 11:54

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 11:54

I didn't realise the side line and hotels were single sex spaces where only men can go

Are women banned from the sideline?

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 11:54

JadeSquid · 08/11/2025 11:52

So now we should forbid males from single sex spaces for two thousand years to make it equal?

I didn't realise the side line and hotels were single sex spaces where only men can go

OneAmberFinch · 08/11/2025 11:53

"It's so awful that boys only have Andrew Tate as a role model of how to be a man"

"Okay, we're organising a males only sports trip which will encourage father-son male bonding and give teenage boys a productive channel for all their energy and competitiveness"

"No, not like that!"

Troubler · 08/11/2025 11:53

I was a single parent so had to go on ds’s football tours when he was young. I was the only mother there. Every other child took their dad. I didn’t really mind and didn’t make a big thing about it for ds’s sake - everyone knew he didn’t have an alternative and nor did I!

i would tell the coach to think about single parent families - not everyone has a dad that can attend these things!

JadeSquid · 08/11/2025 11:52

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 11:47

Let's be honest, there has never been any investment or respect for female sport. You can't compare because boys have always had the better deal as far as sport is concerned.

So now we should forbid males from single sex spaces for two thousand years to make it equal?

PreciousTatas · 08/11/2025 11:52

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 08/11/2025 11:43

But if it was girls and mums only nobody would be batting an eye!!

Facts don't care about fairness or feelings.

Statistically men are the biggest sexual and violent abuse threat to women, children and actually other men too.

Decent men understand why safeguarding considers men more of a risk to women and children, and they don't whinge because they don't want men like that (of which there is a horrifyingly large number) near their families either.

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 11:52

wombat1a · 08/11/2025 11:38

Don't see the problem here, they are creating a single sex environment for a sports trip away. If it was for a girls team I would also support banning the dads from that.

For what reason?
What if one child had lost their mum and only had her dad.
That's such a terrible attitude

EarthlyNightshade · 08/11/2025 11:51

JadeSquid · 08/11/2025 11:35

A lot of parents just don't dominate every area of their children's lives and we actually let them have personal relationships with other people.

There's quite a range between allowing a coach private access to your child and not allowing personal relationships with other people.

JadeSquid · 08/11/2025 11:51

CautiousLurker2 · 08/11/2025 11:41

What a load of bollocks. Noone is stating that only mums are real parents. You are really reaching. However, many mums have as much right to share in and bond with their sons over their sports as male parents and in a time when 1/3 of children are raised in single parent homes or alternating at weekends between parents post divorce, excluding either parent on the basis od their sex ultimately means the child suffers.

Oh, and further to another PP’s comment above… within both the amateur and professional game, there are LOTS of female coaches in rugby, football and cricket. And many refs/umpires are female too. Mind-blowing, right?

So are mums banned from all attendance at this club?

PreciousTatas · 08/11/2025 11:49

Whichever new coach/coaches came up with this idea, be very wary around them. You should be suspicious of any man that clearly is trying to get more unsupervised access to children.

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 11:47

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 08/11/2025 11:43

But if it was girls and mums only nobody would be batting an eye!!

Let's be honest, there has never been any investment or respect for female sport. You can't compare because boys have always had the better deal as far as sport is concerned.

MannersAreAll · 08/11/2025 11:45

The issue with this 'dads only' set up is that this is a club with male coaches who has already shown a complete disregard for safeguarding.

It's not remotely a positive single sex set up.

It's a man with no regard for safeguarding cutting out more parents (and in the OP's case a parent who has already raised issues and been downplayed) and having more unsupervised access to children.

It is basically inevitable that more children will not have a father able and willing to go with them on this trip. So, was the safeguarding disregarding coach one of the possible allocated chaperones for unaccompanied children?

The wider picture of this club and their set up needs reported to the sporting authorities and parents need to wise up and remove their children.

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 11:45

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 08/11/2025 11:40

So if there were to be a girls only tour you’d presumably be as up in arms?

My DC's have done multiple tours in different sports in the UK and abroad and there has NEVER been a one sex coaching team. The organising can be quite difficult and costly so where any extra help or support is needed it has always been any help or support is accepted regardless of sex.

Brainworm · 08/11/2025 11:43

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 08/11/2025 11:36

The creation of a single sex space is considered to be a legitimate reason.

That’s not correct…..there has to be an aim that is met through the provision being single sex.

So, a single sex refuge had the legitimate aim of enabling women to have a space away from people of the sex who have harmed them.

A single sex library would not be legal because there is no legitimate aim for this to be female or male only.

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