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To tell off kids in the pub

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ReallyFkReally · 08/11/2025 01:04

Out for drinks in our local, lots of kids around due to fireworks which didn’t make it especially chilled but one particular group sitting there playing on iPads which was quite annoying so I asked them to turn it down/use headphones. Cue massive over reaction from parents saying they’re quite within their rights, we upset the kids etc etc.

AIBU to think that after 8pm on a Friday night in a pub is adult time and if you’ve got kids there you look out for them not leave an iPad as a babysitter

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brunettemic · 08/11/2025 17:54

Ddakji · 08/11/2025 17:52

It really is. The human ear finds artificial noises much harder to tune out so tinny noise from an iPad will be really invasive.

Headphones should always be used in public places be that parks, trains or restaurants.

“Headphones should always be used”…In your opinion, which is my point. If the pub allows it the it’s up to them.

Ddakji · 08/11/2025 17:52

brunettemic · 08/11/2025 17:51

I get this annoying. Your opinions and the rules of the pub are different things. If they’re allowed in there a you don’t like it then find a new pub. It’s not that different to people talking loudly really.

It really is. The human ear finds artificial noises much harder to tune out so tinny noise from an iPad will be really invasive.

Headphones should always be used in public places be that parks, trains or restaurants.

brunettemic · 08/11/2025 17:51

I get this annoying. Your opinions and the rules of the pub are different things. If they’re allowed in there a you don’t like it then find a new pub. It’s not that different to people talking loudly really.

No5ChalksRoad · 08/11/2025 17:46

Becs51 · 08/11/2025 16:35

I’m just throw another possibility here which I’ll no doubt get shot down in flames for it nobody knows other peoples lives.
my son is autistic and relies on a screen often in public because he feels it hard to engage sometimes, but all the time but sometimes. It’s also only in the last year that he’s been able to tolerate headphones despite spending hundreds on trying every conceivable type under the sun, so previously he would be using his iPad without headphones.
I’m aware this isn’t ideal for other people and would try to ensure it was on at a lower volume than he would have liked. I’d also say it’s extremely rare that my husband and I get to go out together be that as a family or on our own because we can’t leave our son.
You have no idea whether that night out is the parents only opportunity in a year and yet they’re being brandished as parents that are disinterested in their kids and likely do this every week because they’re selfish.
I think sometimes we’re quick to judge without knowing the backstory.

It might be a rare opportunity or special day for some of the other patrons, too.

Sorry, no doubt it’s difficult, but playing any device audibly in public for any reason is inconsiderate.

ReallyFkReally · 08/11/2025 17:20

Becs51 · 08/11/2025 16:35

I’m just throw another possibility here which I’ll no doubt get shot down in flames for it nobody knows other peoples lives.
my son is autistic and relies on a screen often in public because he feels it hard to engage sometimes, but all the time but sometimes. It’s also only in the last year that he’s been able to tolerate headphones despite spending hundreds on trying every conceivable type under the sun, so previously he would be using his iPad without headphones.
I’m aware this isn’t ideal for other people and would try to ensure it was on at a lower volume than he would have liked. I’d also say it’s extremely rare that my husband and I get to go out together be that as a family or on our own because we can’t leave our son.
You have no idea whether that night out is the parents only opportunity in a year and yet they’re being brandished as parents that are disinterested in their kids and likely do this every week because they’re selfish.
I think sometimes we’re quick to judge without knowing the backstory.

I think it’s safe to say that if that was the case they would have been quick to tell me, they weren’t the sort to miss such an opportunity.

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Redpeach · 08/11/2025 17:19

Becs51 · 08/11/2025 16:35

I’m just throw another possibility here which I’ll no doubt get shot down in flames for it nobody knows other peoples lives.
my son is autistic and relies on a screen often in public because he feels it hard to engage sometimes, but all the time but sometimes. It’s also only in the last year that he’s been able to tolerate headphones despite spending hundreds on trying every conceivable type under the sun, so previously he would be using his iPad without headphones.
I’m aware this isn’t ideal for other people and would try to ensure it was on at a lower volume than he would have liked. I’d also say it’s extremely rare that my husband and I get to go out together be that as a family or on our own because we can’t leave our son.
You have no idea whether that night out is the parents only opportunity in a year and yet they’re being brandished as parents that are disinterested in their kids and likely do this every week because they’re selfish.
I think sometimes we’re quick to judge without knowing the backstory.

If it's their only night out in a year, then even more time to plan accordingly and bring headphones

Redpeach · 08/11/2025 17:16

Becs51 · 08/11/2025 16:35

I’m just throw another possibility here which I’ll no doubt get shot down in flames for it nobody knows other peoples lives.
my son is autistic and relies on a screen often in public because he feels it hard to engage sometimes, but all the time but sometimes. It’s also only in the last year that he’s been able to tolerate headphones despite spending hundreds on trying every conceivable type under the sun, so previously he would be using his iPad without headphones.
I’m aware this isn’t ideal for other people and would try to ensure it was on at a lower volume than he would have liked. I’d also say it’s extremely rare that my husband and I get to go out together be that as a family or on our own because we can’t leave our son.
You have no idea whether that night out is the parents only opportunity in a year and yet they’re being brandished as parents that are disinterested in their kids and likely do this every week because they’re selfish.
I think sometimes we’re quick to judge without knowing the backstory.

You can buy hats with built in headphones

Becs51 · 08/11/2025 16:35

ReallyFkReally · 08/11/2025 13:18

No I probably was sharper than I should have been because it’s not really the kids’ fault. But I do think it’s bad behaviour to use a device like that in public with no headphones whether it’s an adult or a kid and it’s a shame they haven’t been taught that. And that the parents would rather have a pint with their mates than actually interact with their kids - not sure why you think they’d sit there staring at them instead of talking or whatever.

I’m just throw another possibility here which I’ll no doubt get shot down in flames for it nobody knows other peoples lives.
my son is autistic and relies on a screen often in public because he feels it hard to engage sometimes, but all the time but sometimes. It’s also only in the last year that he’s been able to tolerate headphones despite spending hundreds on trying every conceivable type under the sun, so previously he would be using his iPad without headphones.
I’m aware this isn’t ideal for other people and would try to ensure it was on at a lower volume than he would have liked. I’d also say it’s extremely rare that my husband and I get to go out together be that as a family or on our own because we can’t leave our son.
You have no idea whether that night out is the parents only opportunity in a year and yet they’re being brandished as parents that are disinterested in their kids and likely do this every week because they’re selfish.
I think sometimes we’re quick to judge without knowing the backstory.

BigBoots67 · 08/11/2025 16:16

ReallyFkReally · 08/11/2025 12:17

Of course a pub that sells alcohol and not food is an adult environment, don't be ridiculous!

In that case I think it’s shit that kids are there. I got dragged up in pubs my whole childhood. A truly miserable existence waiting for parents to drink up. Unless it’s a family friendly spoons type thing, it’s crap!

Redpeach · 08/11/2025 16:08

I have no problem with kids in pubs, just ones on noisy screens

No5ChalksRoad · 08/11/2025 15:44

dreamiesformolly · 08/11/2025 15:39

Totally, that's why I'm curious as to whether pp who thought we should all stay at home if we didn't like it is also of the 'it takes a village' ilk... that would be irony indeed.

In my experience, parents are all in favour of the village when it means more money in their pockets, or free babysitting or other perks, but they expect the villagers to keep THEIR opinions and preferences to themselves. 🙄

dreamiesformolly · 08/11/2025 15:39

No5ChalksRoad · 08/11/2025 14:10

“It takes a village.”

The original concept was that everyone in the community is free to rebuke children in order to shape their character and behaviour.

Totally, that's why I'm curious as to whether pp who thought we should all stay at home if we didn't like it is also of the 'it takes a village' ilk... that would be irony indeed.

nameobsessed · 08/11/2025 15:17

I can’t fathom why anyone would take children to the pub, it’s an unsafe/uncomfortable environment for children. I can’t really blame the children for the iPads or behaviour but the parents for putting them in the situation in the first place.

It was very common and acceptable when I was a child, to go to the pub with the kids for hours, and it was a safeguarding nightmare. I’m very glad there are stronger restrictions on it now. Even if there wasn’t always perverse old men leering at underage girls it was boring, loud and miserable.

The pub/restaurant places that are designed for children are slightly better but I still don’t think mixing drinking alcohol, people shouting watching football and children playing is a good idea personally.

A play area with a café is a much more family friendly environment, no need for iPads.

Redpeach · 08/11/2025 15:06

DysmalRadius · 08/11/2025 11:33

Kids need somewhere to be too though. There are woefully few pub-equivalent places you can take children without high entry fees or structured activities. For kids that want to socialise together (gaming can be quite social - I'm assuming this was contributing to the noise) in a group, there is nowhere to go!

If the kids must game, they can wear headphones or play cards

Catpiece · 08/11/2025 14:24

Kids and dogs in pubs. Shouldn’t be allowed

No5ChalksRoad · 08/11/2025 14:19

DysmalRadius · 08/11/2025 11:33

Kids need somewhere to be too though. There are woefully few pub-equivalent places you can take children without high entry fees or structured activities. For kids that want to socialise together (gaming can be quite social - I'm assuming this was contributing to the noise) in a group, there is nowhere to go!

Oh come on! This is the biggest load of claptrap I’ve read in years!

Kids need pubs? FFS.

No5ChalksRoad · 08/11/2025 14:10

“It takes a village.”

The original concept was that everyone in the community is free to rebuke children in order to shape their character and behaviour.

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 08/11/2025 13:47

I think I would have complained to the pub staff rather than approaching the children directly.

MoominMai · 08/11/2025 13:38

ParmaVioletTea · 08/11/2025 06:25

YANBU. Parents nowadays can be very selfish.

Sadly yes. The entitlement is off the charts with some.

blunderbuss12 · 08/11/2025 13:36

equally irritating are the (adult) people who sit at a table and then phone somebody on speakerphone or decide pub/restaurant/cafe is the perfect place for the family zoom call. DP and I had this last week in a v expensive restaurant!

SnippySnappy · 08/11/2025 13:25

ThejoyofNC · 08/11/2025 13:20

If you want adults only then go to a bar.

What's the difference, in this context?

I think it's pretty much accepted that a pub which doesn't sell food is an adult environment.

Greenwitchart · 08/11/2025 13:23

Really stupid of these parents to bring young kids to a pub in the evening in the first place, not to mention that they should not just leave them on their own.

So many parents these days are truly lazy, entitled and completely irresponsible.

ThejoyofNC · 08/11/2025 13:20

ReallyFkReally · 08/11/2025 12:17

Of course a pub that sells alcohol and not food is an adult environment, don't be ridiculous!

If you want adults only then go to a bar.

ReallyFkReally · 08/11/2025 13:18

No I probably was sharper than I should have been because it’s not really the kids’ fault. But I do think it’s bad behaviour to use a device like that in public with no headphones whether it’s an adult or a kid and it’s a shame they haven’t been taught that. And that the parents would rather have a pint with their mates than actually interact with their kids - not sure why you think they’d sit there staring at them instead of talking or whatever.

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Redpeach · 08/11/2025 13:16

Cob81 · 08/11/2025 13:14

I’m struggling to understand the “badly behaved/no manners” part? They were sat playing on iPads, did you want them up running about because let’s face it, they would’ve being running about bored, you can’t expect them to just sit there doing nothing and not move!!
YANBU about the noise coming from them, I tell my own to turn them down at home if they’re loud or go away somewhere else, but I’ll be honest you come across very snobby and entitled, should the kids have been there in the first place, no, but they were and you don’t want them on iPads, you wanted the parents to sit staring at them or what? Because you keep saying they should have being watching them. What did the kids do that was so bad that you are claiming they’re badly behaved with no manners?? As far as I can make out they were sat playing on their iPads minding their own business and you got annoyed with the noise, which that part is fair enough, but I’ve a feeling you were pretty hostile towards the kids the way you said it to them, but you’ll probably have yourself convinced you asked nicely 😂

They are not minding their own business if their ipads are disturbing others, and its not a binary choice of screens or running around