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MIL not sleeping over our house being too cold

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lilseb · 07/11/2025 23:45

We have a 5mo baby. We've just moved into our property which has an EPC C and insulated/double glazing, but since the weather's turned cold we've found our bedroom is far too cold, unsure why and we want to get a specialist in. We are a bit sparse with heating but we put it on morning and evening to heat house up to 16c, we top up in the day if its especially cold and use heaters/fireplace in certain rooms we use more so they're warmer than the 16c (including said bedroom but this was not effective). The rest of the house is fine except this one room. Me and baby are now sleeping in spare room which is much warmer. Baby is in recommended vest sleepsuit and 2.5-3.5 tog sleeping bag for the weather.

MIL is convinced the issue is we don't put the heating on enough and having arguments with my husband about it. She's said its not good enough that we're using our dyson for heating or that me and baby have switched room and we need to have the heating on more, and she thinks 16c is too cold. She has told me and my husband separately that she is so worried about our house she's not sleeping, citing worries for my husband's asthma and our child's health. The latter has upset me because I'm trying to follow the recommended advice for temperature and I wouldn't risk my child's welfare. Husband says I'm being over sensitive, and I know she probably doesn't mean to imply it, but I do think she should be thinking through what she says.

Husband is a tightarse and I frequently ignore his moaning and switch heating on anyway - however we both feel that the issue with the bedroom is not the heating, and that we think 16c is a reasonable temperature that will keep us healthy and should keep house in good condition. I don't know if I get especially warm but I woke up last night feeling too hot and room temperature was 17c. My husband similarly is ok with cooler temperatures.

My view is its our house and our baby and MIL has said her piece so now needs to reign it in. AIBU? I know she's grandmother and I can't stop her worrying but we're already navigating a new house and new baby and could do without her rattling me. I had a conversation with her earlier which was pleasant and constructive enough and I'm hoping will nip some of this in the bud, but I don't know whether to be tougher if there's a next time.

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Coffeeismyfriend1 · 08/11/2025 20:58

The optimum temperature for sleep is 16-18 degrees so whilst on the lower end of that, you are in the correct range.

During the day we have ours at 19 or 20 degrees which is warm enough for us.

TeethAreImportant · 08/11/2025 20:43

All advice is that babies shouldn't sleep in rooms which are too warm, The Lullaby Trust, who advise on baby health say 16°-20° is ideal, so you're at the lower end of that, but definitely still in safe temperature range. Share the official advice with your MIL and tell her you're doing the best thing to lower risk of over-heating, SIDS etc...: www.lullabytrust.org.uk/baby-safety/safer-sleep-information/room-temperature/

Dollymixture12 · 08/11/2025 19:38

I think you’re right that your mil has said her piece and now she needs to butt out. However, I also think you need to turn the heating up while your baby is so little. 19-20 during the day and then let it cool down over night if you must, but sleep close to your baby to monitor them.

My husband and I disagree on the heating/our duvet etc but when the baby was small he conceded that we had to make sure the house was warm enough for him. I think unless you’re in severe financial difficulties, your husband needs to let go of his control over the heating for a little bit.

Presume he’s also not the one who’s at home most of the time? you need to be able to make decisions about your space.

Createausername1970 · 08/11/2025 18:51

Our heating is set to come on during the day if it drops below 18 during the day/evening and 13 overnight.

16 for day/evening would be too cold for me.

greyhound82 · 08/11/2025 18:49

lilseb · 07/11/2025 23:45

We have a 5mo baby. We've just moved into our property which has an EPC C and insulated/double glazing, but since the weather's turned cold we've found our bedroom is far too cold, unsure why and we want to get a specialist in. We are a bit sparse with heating but we put it on morning and evening to heat house up to 16c, we top up in the day if its especially cold and use heaters/fireplace in certain rooms we use more so they're warmer than the 16c (including said bedroom but this was not effective). The rest of the house is fine except this one room. Me and baby are now sleeping in spare room which is much warmer. Baby is in recommended vest sleepsuit and 2.5-3.5 tog sleeping bag for the weather.

MIL is convinced the issue is we don't put the heating on enough and having arguments with my husband about it. She's said its not good enough that we're using our dyson for heating or that me and baby have switched room and we need to have the heating on more, and she thinks 16c is too cold. She has told me and my husband separately that she is so worried about our house she's not sleeping, citing worries for my husband's asthma and our child's health. The latter has upset me because I'm trying to follow the recommended advice for temperature and I wouldn't risk my child's welfare. Husband says I'm being over sensitive, and I know she probably doesn't mean to imply it, but I do think she should be thinking through what she says.

Husband is a tightarse and I frequently ignore his moaning and switch heating on anyway - however we both feel that the issue with the bedroom is not the heating, and that we think 16c is a reasonable temperature that will keep us healthy and should keep house in good condition. I don't know if I get especially warm but I woke up last night feeling too hot and room temperature was 17c. My husband similarly is ok with cooler temperatures.

My view is its our house and our baby and MIL has said her piece so now needs to reign it in. AIBU? I know she's grandmother and I can't stop her worrying but we're already navigating a new house and new baby and could do without her rattling me. I had a conversation with her earlier which was pleasant and constructive enough and I'm hoping will nip some of this in the bud, but I don't know whether to be tougher if there's a next time.

Do you have a thermometer in the bedrooms? A house with a single thermostat in the hallway will often be cooler in the outer rooms, where the heat is lost much more quickly. Your bedroom could only be 13 or 14 degrees, which is far too cold.

SunshineCatcher · 08/11/2025 18:48

We have ours set to 19 and that’s us being tight arses. 16 is pretty cold, and even at 19 we are all sat under blankets on the sofa. We are considering turning it up a notch!

Jade247 · 08/11/2025 18:47

16 is way too cool for a baby and you just be freezing !

Praying4Peace · 08/11/2025 18:39

I simply don't understand when people are too mean to put on their heating /turn it up(if they have the financial resources to do so) .
I have previously been in a position where I had no heating and no money to put it on (when I had it).
I really appreciate my lovely warm home now and never take it for granted.
Stinginess is a truly unattractive trait

FateReset · 08/11/2025 18:12

As an adult I'm ok with 16c provided I don't have to sit still too long. At home it's easy to keep active. Much harder for babies and visitors to move around the house!

I wouldn't have it at 16c in autumn/winter now that I have young children. They don't always realise they're cold until they start shivering. And baby might be fine layered up but what's the room temperature for nappy changes, undressing, baths?
I'd be worried about air quality too. You can't keep windows open if you're not heating the house properly. Cold, damp, stale air grows mould spores faster than anything! Even if you can't see or smell the mould.

Our heating is currently set to come on when the main thermostat drops below 20. However, bedrooms with less sun and in particular the rooms over the garage/porch get to around 16 before the main thermostat reads below 20. Could your house be similar?

cinquanta · 08/11/2025 18:07

Fimofriend · 08/11/2025 17:00

Then people wonder why the British have the highest percentage of people with respiratory problems in Europe:

  • At temperatures at or below 19 degress celcius the house will develop mould even if it is well insulated and has double glazed windows in every room. (No, 5 centimetres of insulation does not equal well insulated)
  • If you also dry your clothes or even some of them indoors you will risk causing mould issues in your home.
  • children are more at risk for developing serious health problems from exposure to mould than adults are.
  • if your immune defence system is under attack from mould, being cold will make you more likely to get ill.

Our house obviously didn’t get that memo. Zero mould issues and the thermostat is set at 16 degrees.

Anonymouseposter · 08/11/2025 18:04

It isn't unreasonable for the MIL to be worried, she's concerned about the baby and I would be too (not so much about the night time temperature but more about the house being cold during the day and the possibility of damp).
She's also worried about her son's asthma. I would be less concerned about this because he's an adult and choosing to do it to himself should he have an asthma attack. If the temperature at work falls below 16 degrees sedentary workers can refuse to work. I was in an office in an old building that was at this exact temperature, we had a thermometer on the wall. It was horrible, I couldn't concentrate, my hands were freezing. If the baby isn't always wrapped up warm in a cot he'll be miserable.

Koalatea13 · 08/11/2025 18:00

CinnamonJellyBeans · 08/11/2025 00:04

I followed the NHS temp advice to the letter, as I had very little experience of babies. I could kick myself now, looking back at the tiny baby with a vest, babygrow, thin sheet, thin blanket, thin hat in the middle of winter, while I slept under a duvet, insulated by post partum fat. She must have been cold, which is why she woke up so much.

I say minimum 18 degrees, in a draught-free, well -ventilated room is better

Exactly this. The guidelines are too cautious. My babies were too cold if I followed it strictly too. Essentially I work with an extra layer (short sleeved vest usually, or sleepsuit rather than long sleeved vest etc) than what they say

fivebyfivefaith · 08/11/2025 17:56

Fimofriend · 08/11/2025 17:00

Then people wonder why the British have the highest percentage of people with respiratory problems in Europe:

  • At temperatures at or below 19 degress celcius the house will develop mould even if it is well insulated and has double glazed windows in every room. (No, 5 centimetres of insulation does not equal well insulated)
  • If you also dry your clothes or even some of them indoors you will risk causing mould issues in your home.
  • children are more at risk for developing serious health problems from exposure to mould than adults are.
  • if your immune defence system is under attack from mould, being cold will make you more likely to get ill.

I dry my clothes indoors with a dehumidifier and open windows every single day
I’ve lived here 19 years, the heating is usually 16-18c and I’ve never ever had a mould issue - I air the house and the dehumidifier takes out water
21c and above is physically uncomfortable for me as I’m allergic to heat

Littlebassist · 08/11/2025 17:51

Just to add another perspective, but it’s a new home, right? And perhaps a relatively new build? Our house is about 15 years old, well insulated and has electric heating all around. We have to set our thermostats on each radiator, which is actually quite good because we can adjust for each room. They are mostly set to 18 currently.
However, when we moved in we had to put them at 22, because the house was empty for a while before we moved in, and it takes a while for a house to properly heat up. It took us a few months to actually feel like we were warm in our own home! This was about 3 years ago. Once you’re on top of it, it’s a lot easier to maintain, but it takes a bit of effort to get there.

sillyrubberduck · 08/11/2025 17:48

I’m with MIL on this . 16 is too cold 🥶

NeverDropYourMooncup · 08/11/2025 17:47

lilseb · 08/11/2025 00:18

I can't edit my post for some reason but want to clarify

  1. it's not up to 16c - that was a mistype , it's from 16c - if it drops below we put it up. But we are between 16 - 18c without heaters which I'm guessing is too low for most anyway
  2. MIL is not in the property, she's just hearing about it from husband

Anyway, I'm getting a sense of where people are...

Your MIL is pissing off her son because she thinks he is being too stingy and controlling over money/heating to your detriment and that of your baby. She's also refusing point blank to come over despite it meaning not spending as much time with her grandchild to show she is serious about this.

She's on your side (well, the baby's, but yours as well).

She's a keeper.

Fourt · 08/11/2025 17:36

KickHimInTheCrotch · 08/11/2025 17:14

I've been busy around the house today in a vest top and joggers and just checked the thermostat- its 16 degrees. DD is wearing tshirt and leggings, DS shorts and hoodie. No-one is particularly cold. I'm putting the heating on now because the temp is dropping outside but by the time it gets to 19 we'll all be too warm i expect. No mould and no respiratory conditions here.

Why don’t you put a jumper on instead of the heating? If you can tolerate 16 with a vest on, surely all you need is a light cardigan?

Jwall22 · 08/11/2025 17:34

lilseb · 07/11/2025 23:45

We have a 5mo baby. We've just moved into our property which has an EPC C and insulated/double glazing, but since the weather's turned cold we've found our bedroom is far too cold, unsure why and we want to get a specialist in. We are a bit sparse with heating but we put it on morning and evening to heat house up to 16c, we top up in the day if its especially cold and use heaters/fireplace in certain rooms we use more so they're warmer than the 16c (including said bedroom but this was not effective). The rest of the house is fine except this one room. Me and baby are now sleeping in spare room which is much warmer. Baby is in recommended vest sleepsuit and 2.5-3.5 tog sleeping bag for the weather.

MIL is convinced the issue is we don't put the heating on enough and having arguments with my husband about it. She's said its not good enough that we're using our dyson for heating or that me and baby have switched room and we need to have the heating on more, and she thinks 16c is too cold. She has told me and my husband separately that she is so worried about our house she's not sleeping, citing worries for my husband's asthma and our child's health. The latter has upset me because I'm trying to follow the recommended advice for temperature and I wouldn't risk my child's welfare. Husband says I'm being over sensitive, and I know she probably doesn't mean to imply it, but I do think she should be thinking through what she says.

Husband is a tightarse and I frequently ignore his moaning and switch heating on anyway - however we both feel that the issue with the bedroom is not the heating, and that we think 16c is a reasonable temperature that will keep us healthy and should keep house in good condition. I don't know if I get especially warm but I woke up last night feeling too hot and room temperature was 17c. My husband similarly is ok with cooler temperatures.

My view is its our house and our baby and MIL has said her piece so now needs to reign it in. AIBU? I know she's grandmother and I can't stop her worrying but we're already navigating a new house and new baby and could do without her rattling me. I had a conversation with her earlier which was pleasant and constructive enough and I'm hoping will nip some of this in the bud, but I don't know whether to be tougher if there's a next time.

16 degrees!! And being sparse and a tight arse with heating. . . . It’s far too cold, almost uncomfortably so. I think ‘room temperature’ is considered to be around 20/21 degrees. If it’s too cold, it will get damp and then you will have mould appearing and that is dangerous especially for a baby. If you are parents, you need to be responsible and stop being tight, put the heating on and set the thermostat to a sensible level. Your MIL is right. Also spending money on heaters etc is more expensive on the electricity bills. You’ll feel terrible if your baby is ill come the winter, when it does get properly cold, they can’t regulate their temperature remember.

SisterMidnight77 · 08/11/2025 17:33

16 degrees IS too cold. Should be around 19.

Koalatea13 · 08/11/2025 17:33

lilseb · 08/11/2025 00:07

Yes, I've mentioned our room is 17c. 16c is our minimum

No, you stated you set your thermostat is set to 16, so that's your maximum really as your heating will shut off as soon as it hits that temperature. 16 is too cold for a newborn baby. You shouldn't have to be using a 3.5tog sleepsuit. You seem to know this as you've moved rooms. Your MIL is right - put the heating on

DirtyBird · 08/11/2025 17:24

I’m hot natured and that would be too cold for me.

JLou08 · 08/11/2025 17:19

I have mine at 18 but that is because we get warm quickly, other people complain my house is cold. Even I would be very cold at 16.

KickHimInTheCrotch · 08/11/2025 17:14

I've been busy around the house today in a vest top and joggers and just checked the thermostat- its 16 degrees. DD is wearing tshirt and leggings, DS shorts and hoodie. No-one is particularly cold. I'm putting the heating on now because the temp is dropping outside but by the time it gets to 19 we'll all be too warm i expect. No mould and no respiratory conditions here.

Grumpybear33 · 08/11/2025 17:09

16 degrees is too cold for a baby. An acceptable room temperature is between 18-21 degrees but babies and older people need it to be a bit hotter because they don’t move as much.
I used to have ours on at around 21 degrees when the children were small. Now it’s usually between 18 and 20. When my parents and in laws come over (75+) we have to increase by a degree or 2 or they complain of being cold.

Fimofriend · 08/11/2025 17:00

Then people wonder why the British have the highest percentage of people with respiratory problems in Europe:

  • At temperatures at or below 19 degress celcius the house will develop mould even if it is well insulated and has double glazed windows in every room. (No, 5 centimetres of insulation does not equal well insulated)
  • If you also dry your clothes or even some of them indoors you will risk causing mould issues in your home.
  • children are more at risk for developing serious health problems from exposure to mould than adults are.
  • if your immune defence system is under attack from mould, being cold will make you more likely to get ill.
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