She's dying isn't she?

Mumsnet is obsessed with sepsis!
Not every infection leads to sepsis!

Makes no difference to waiting times, you are still triaged and put in a q!

About what?? If there are no beds there are no bloody beds?

My mum 77 had a UTI and it was the most I’ll have seen her. Apart from the pain it made her vomit a lot.
you must get her seen as she needs antibiotics as she will be feeling absolutely dreadful and thinking clearly.
good luck

You can be very poorly with a uti. Fluids might be easier to cope with, light soup etc. Be aware of signs of sepsis but it should improve with abs.

This is too true. It shouldn’t be that the most vulnerable suffer without an advocate. The most vulnerable should have more protection. It has really upset me how much I’ve had to fight for my mum to get proper care. I honestly think she’d be dead already without our intervention. With my own children I’ve needed to be sharp elbowed and pushy. My daughter has a kidney infection as a baby as it was dismissed as viral by paediatrics. I wasn’t happy and went back. I’ll still never forget the patronising tone the next morning of the junior doctor who was like ‘oh back here again are we’. Less than an hour later she’s turned blue and started fitting which unsurprisingly got the attention of everyone there. The gp has sent her in the day before as red flag sepsis.

A few years ago my mum (76 at the time) had a UTI, I'd only seen her 3 days prior, but I was stunned at how ill she was, she couldn't get up, was shaking from head to toe, her jaw was shaking so much she couldn't talk, ear or drink. The antibiotics shed been put on weren't working and my dad called me as he was so worried. As soon as I saw her I called the gp who sent a paramedic. She was taken into hospital for 12 hours, given fluids and IV antibiotics and sent home. 24 hours later when I went over she was doing the ironing like nothing had happened. People underestimate how severe the effects of a UTI can be.

Wishing her a speedy recovery xx

Unfortunately you have to fight for your health these days, and I often wonder if you can't fight for yourself hopefully you have someone who can. Seen so many elderly die as too ill to advocate for themselves in these situations. Go into hospital with her, keep on at the reception every half an hour, keep on at the medical team and whoever else will listen. Your voice is your power. My husband was left in A&E for hours with a UTI then sent home with useless antibiotics. He started vomiting once home, so I marched him back to hospital were it was discovered he had sepsis and the Dr couldn't believe he had been discharged. He couldn't have done this on his own as too ill, I fought and fought to get him seen properly.

Okay so I don't want to alarm you and I considered whether or not I should post this as I don't want to worry you but this exact thing happened to my Mum. Same symptoms, same issues.

The back ache that was giving her so much pain was the UTI had spread to her kidneys. We called an ambulance because she was in so much pain and delirious. She was put on intravenous antibiotics but the infection turned to sepsis. The hospital were quick to notice the sepsis and treated her quickly but my Mum passed away. It happened so quickly and it was devastating how quickly the sepsis got hold of her. There was nothing else the hospital could do for her. My Mum was only 69.

Please make sure they take this seriously. Mention her kidneys, and please, please ask 'could this be sepsis?' and if they say no ask how they can be sure.

I am hoping and praying that its just a nasty UTI that can be sorted quickly and without issue but I couldn't read your post without saying something and making you aware of what happened to my beautiful Mumma.

Sending best wishes and positive vibes. xx

Just seen you have rang an ambulance already. Hope your mum is feeling better soon

Ring 111 and get the out of hours GP to come and review her - if deteriorates further than you should call 999

Delirium is commonly accompanies UTI in older people (over 65’s)

Good luck OP, pls keep us posted to how your Mum is doing x

I know all the talk about sepsis is frightening OP, but previous posters are right in advising that you keep asking about it specifically on her behalf. I had it this year (few years younger than your DM) and got through it, but only because of massive IV antibiotics and rehydration.

Hoping all will be well for her.

Sending you a hug OP

Sending best wishes OP 🙏

When you are older a UTI can be very serious. The back pain could be her kidneys.
I hope you get some answers soon.

Yep, that's common enough with a UTI, my mum was seeing all sorts that weren't there, having really dementia type symptoms.

Within a day of starting antibiotics she was almost back to normal. I'm going to guess her eating and fluid intake issues will improve once the UTI is cleared too.

Once she is in hospital do try to get them to look at the hernia during her stay, they can get scans/tests/camera etc ordered and done same day, via the gp will take months.

best of luck.

Not to alarm... but a uti can develop into sepsis and then you need antibiotics v quickly (1hour) as blood pressure suddenly drops off. My mother nearly died and i stood in the middle of the staff and asked for antibiotics or she would die within the hour with sepsis. It worked. She pulled through. (My daughter is med scientist n told me what to do) weve all had water infection without these dire effects.
You have to advocate v clearly. Sepsis is sudden n confusion can be a sign. All the best. Haul her back for her own good. Say youre worried about sepsis. Google it. Or phone 999 and say sepsis. Its the biggest cause of death apparently.

I'm so sorry to hear his OP. Your mum needs urgent treatment and you should get her back to A&E.

UTIs, whilst commonplace, can cause a multitude of problems - severe dehydration to name but one, this in turn can lead to confusion, acting out of character and severe apathy. Which sounds exactly like your mum's symptoms.

Get her to A&E, tell her it's going to be a long wait and take an Ipad with a film downloaded to watch whilst you wait. I'm afraid you need to be the adult here and advocate for her. You can do this in a way that is respectful of her, but also firm enough to get her the help she needs.

Good luck OP, it's horrible when our Mum's are ill x

Sorry this is happening but glad she's going back to hospital. Keep asking them whether she might have Sepsis.

My mum had it a few years back when she was about the same age. She was initially sent away with Diclofenac for pain in her shoulder when in fact she had a serious infection, despite have other systems of toxic shock.
I hope she gets well soon.

This how UTIs can affect older women . My mother had one at 70 and kept talking nonsense, she asked where my brother was and he was sitting beside her hospital bed.

After her treatment , she was absolutely fine, back to normal .

That’s good to hear, OP. UTIs are absolutely horrible and won’t go away without treatment but the good thing is that they do respond well to treatment. They can cause confusion but that also passes as the infection passes. Hospital is the place for your mum and she should start to feel a bit better once the medication kicks in.

Oh op how worrying for you. I wish your both all the best. I’ve been there with my dad and it’s so hard 💐💐