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To find this statement from DP strange

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Totaleclipseofaheart · 07/11/2025 21:21

For context- DP and I have been together a decade and recently became parents. His mother has become incredibly overbearing and after months of keeping quiet I finally confided in my DP and told him what toll it was having on my mental well being and that I (not him or us) need to see her less. Our relationship with DP has taken a nose dive since that convo and he has recently told me that he struggling to see a future for us as HE IS AT HIS HAPPIEST WHEN HE IS WITH HIS MUM AND DAD.
Is it unreasonable of me to find this statement from a man in his late 30s who has just had a baby really strange?

OP posts:
DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 09/11/2025 00:35

SpoonBaloon · 08/11/2025 21:47

I think most of us find our parents, grandparents and in-laws overbearing. It’s a tale as old as time and something you have to accept and things will likely change quickly as our child and relationship grows.

It’s interesting that it is a sign of an abusive relationship if a man makes his wife/partner choose between him and her family, but it seems most of the people on this thread are encouraging the OP to make her partner choose between her and his family.

I feel happiest when I’m with my grandparents. It’s a different kind of bittersweet happiness and hard to explain. But it doesn’t mean I’m going to run off and move in with them. And it doesn’t mean I don’t feel happy with my parents, for example.

OP and her child ARE his family.
She's not asking him to choose. She's said that she tries to keep the peace and only told him about this "after months of keeping quiet." that she needs to see less of MIL because dealing with her is so stressful... See less. Not choose one side or the other.

Duckie2025 · 08/11/2025 22:28

Praying4Peace · 08/11/2025 22:10

Thank you. And how often do you see your MIL?
You have recently had a baby and this puts you and your partner in a vulnerable position.
I reflect on when my son was a baby and I some really strange thoughts that didn't reflect reality.

So you think the OP is batshit and should kowtow to her bullying mil and her husband who has told her he is at his happiest hanging out with his mum.

Yes, you did imply that she's batshit. Yes, you know you did. Yep, absolutely you did and you meant it.

You should read The Yellow Wallpaper. You'd probably think the husband was the hero of the piece 😆

Duckie2025 · 08/11/2025 22:26

Maddy70 · 08/11/2025 22:19

It depends. If my husband suggested I didn't see my parents I would leave. Its very controlling. That doesn't mean that you have to see them all the time or even at all but unless they have done something hideous I think yabu

OP has not suggested that he not see his bullying mother at all, however. Just that her bullying has made her unhappy and she wants to take a step back while he can see them as much as he likes, she literally said she has no problem with him seeing his bullying mother as much as he pleases.

I wish people would respond to what the OP says on mumsnet, not an interpretation based on their own lives.

Maddy70 · 08/11/2025 22:19

It depends. If my husband suggested I didn't see my parents I would leave. Its very controlling. That doesn't mean that you have to see them all the time or even at all but unless they have done something hideous I think yabu

Praying4Peace · 08/11/2025 22:10

AlloaintheMiddle · 07/11/2025 22:11

What are the in laws doing that bothers you?

When I had my children I was also very happy to spend time with my parents to share the happiness of the new additions. May be he’s feeling the same?

Thank you. And how often do you see your MIL?
You have recently had a baby and this puts you and your partner in a vulnerable position.
I reflect on when my son was a baby and I some really strange thoughts that didn't reflect reality.

Duckie2025 · 08/11/2025 22:04

SpoonBaloon · 08/11/2025 21:47

I think most of us find our parents, grandparents and in-laws overbearing. It’s a tale as old as time and something you have to accept and things will likely change quickly as our child and relationship grows.

It’s interesting that it is a sign of an abusive relationship if a man makes his wife/partner choose between him and her family, but it seems most of the people on this thread are encouraging the OP to make her partner choose between her and his family.

I feel happiest when I’m with my grandparents. It’s a different kind of bittersweet happiness and hard to explain. But it doesn’t mean I’m going to run off and move in with them. And it doesn’t mean I don’t feel happy with my parents, for example.

The bullying mil has forced a confrontation, if she'd been normal none of this would have happened. And her dh has told OP to accept the bullying of his mother. This is on them. Also on OP for not telling the bullying woman to fuck off off with her interfering right at the start - we get the treatment we wil tolerate.

Oh and absolutely NO my mother was wonderful with my kids when they were little and not even remotely overbearing. It's not normal to be that way. Not at all.

Duckie2025 · 08/11/2025 22:02

LilySad91 · 08/11/2025 14:50

Tell him it's her or me. And be prepared that he will say her and you will have to throw him out

Yep. This.

SpoonBaloon · 08/11/2025 21:47

I think most of us find our parents, grandparents and in-laws overbearing. It’s a tale as old as time and something you have to accept and things will likely change quickly as our child and relationship grows.

It’s interesting that it is a sign of an abusive relationship if a man makes his wife/partner choose between him and her family, but it seems most of the people on this thread are encouraging the OP to make her partner choose between her and his family.

I feel happiest when I’m with my grandparents. It’s a different kind of bittersweet happiness and hard to explain. But it doesn’t mean I’m going to run off and move in with them. And it doesn’t mean I don’t feel happy with my parents, for example.

Terrribletwos · 08/11/2025 21:37

Totaleclipseofaheart · 08/11/2025 14:41

I have not said anything to her to keep peace and not to make things really awkward. She does everything in a way that doesn’t necessarily comes across aggressive but it does feel like she is asserting her dominance and undermining my views. So of course I don’t do what she tells me but her energy drains me and I have started feeling really anxious every time I see her. I really wish she would just take a step back and stop supervising me. We would have been fine.
DP once said to me that he actually thought she would be worse once the baby is here and so he doesn’t think it has been that bad.

Your mil does sound a bit of a mare and good you stood up to her or just ignored her and carried on regardless.

But you OP was about your husband saying he preferred being with his parents. That's quite a thing to say. Have you asked him why? And what was his answer? Perhaps, it was said in a moment of frustration?

agentlebreeze · 08/11/2025 21:18

JadeSquid · 08/11/2025 10:31

Probably because life with the OP isn't fulfilling and/or pleasant enough for him. Maybe he's seen a totally different side to her post birth and he doesn't want that future. Those are the reasons I'd be happier away from my marital home with other people than in it alone with my spouse.

😂😂😂
Life with mum and dad doesn’t involve broken sleep, nappy changes, being expected to do half the housework and cooking, having to share attention.
Why do you have such a downer on OP?

Grammarnut · 08/11/2025 17:38

GarlicHound · 08/11/2025 04:20

he struggling to see a future for us

He's given her an ultimatum - love my parents or bye-bye. That's a world away from what you and @Wbeezer describe.

She needs to remind him that when a man marries (or sets up similar relationship) he cleeves to his wife and leaves his parents. That is culturally he is in the wrong.

Grammarnut · 08/11/2025 17:36

Howwilliknow122 · 08/11/2025 12:36

U do realise you just answered with nonsense, you didnt actually say anything that answers my question 🤣🤣🤣 now please reply with an answer, what is white British culture in relation to men who want their mummies to hold their hands as grown men. And please confirm that only non white British men do this as white brits have moved away from this nonsense. Please explain!!!

They haven't. You have a DP problem. Tell him to tell his mother to back off.

Givenupshopping · 08/11/2025 17:08

Having now been made aware of the sort of things she does to upset you OP, I would be inclined to say next time she makes some criticism of the nappies you use, 'well that's your opinion MIL, but unless you're paying for the nappies we use, then you have absolutely no say in the matter.' Then continue to glare at her, but don't say anything further, until she's responded. If she says something along the lines of 'I was only trying to help', then say 'well don't, I don't need your advice as to how to rear my child, but if I do, I'll ask for it, so in the meantime I think it would be better if you keep your opinions to yourself!' You may find that she decides to leave shortly afterwards, but if it develops into a row, just say, 'I think it's best you leave now, as you clearly can't accept that 'baby's name' is my child, and when it comes to caring for him I know best, so perhaps don't bother to come back until you can, as your overbearing attitude is not welcome here!' If your partner doesn't like it, then he'll likely piss off to Mummy when she tells him what you've said, in which case you won't need to go to the trouble, of kicking him out.

W0tnow · 08/11/2025 16:19

So you have no family around? That must be tough. Many of us had wonderful support from our mothers, and I’m sorry you haven’t. What your MIL is doing is really undermining. Outrageous really. Are you so invested in having her as ‘family’ that you’ve let it get this far instead of shutting her down?

I really think that the glaringly worrying thing in all this is that your partner has said that he is not sure if he has a future with you. That is a monumental piece of information and needs to be challenged.

Sharptonguedwoman · 08/11/2025 16:09

Totaleclipseofaheart · 08/11/2025 14:41

I have not said anything to her to keep peace and not to make things really awkward. She does everything in a way that doesn’t necessarily comes across aggressive but it does feel like she is asserting her dominance and undermining my views. So of course I don’t do what she tells me but her energy drains me and I have started feeling really anxious every time I see her. I really wish she would just take a step back and stop supervising me. We would have been fine.
DP once said to me that he actually thought she would be worse once the baby is here and so he doesn’t think it has been that bad.

It may be that he's very used to doing what he's told by her. Peaceful life, probably. There's no reason for you to though and honestly the next time she starts, can you say, 'MIL, please stop/don't. The baby is fine and DH and I have discussed it'. Now, would you like a cup of tea?' If she starts the 3rd person crap, 'MIL, please don't. It's not helpful or kind'.

Elsvieta · 08/11/2025 15:08

Totaleclipseofaheart · 08/11/2025 14:41

I have not said anything to her to keep peace and not to make things really awkward. She does everything in a way that doesn’t necessarily comes across aggressive but it does feel like she is asserting her dominance and undermining my views. So of course I don’t do what she tells me but her energy drains me and I have started feeling really anxious every time I see her. I really wish she would just take a step back and stop supervising me. We would have been fine.
DP once said to me that he actually thought she would be worse once the baby is here and so he doesn’t think it has been that bad.

It's not peaceful for you though, is it? You can wish for her to change forever, but the fact is that nothing will change unless you change it. Sometimes you do that by giving up on caring whether it's awkward. MAKE it awkward - for her. Return awkward to sender, as they say. She's the one being rude, so let HER be the one who suffers as a result. Or, you know, fume in silent rage for another twenty years or so. Your choice.

Go on the "captain awkward" online advice page and read some of the posts tagged "families" and "parents" and "boundaries" and "saying no". Lots of good scripts. Be brave!

diddl · 08/11/2025 14:56

I have not said anything to her to keep peace

Whose peace?

5128gap · 08/11/2025 14:55

Howwilliknow122 · 08/11/2025 12:36

U do realise you just answered with nonsense, you didnt actually say anything that answers my question 🤣🤣🤣 now please reply with an answer, what is white British culture in relation to men who want their mummies to hold their hands as grown men. And please confirm that only non white British men do this as white brits have moved away from this nonsense. Please explain!!!

There are cultures where high levels of involvement from mothers in matters concerning the domestic life of their adult children, and the raising of grandchildren is not seen as 'holding mummy's hand'. It's seen as an entirely reasonable way of the family benefitting from the experience if older members.
White British culture did have an element of this, and still does, but to a lesser extent now than in times past. There are other cultures that still value this model of living.
I think that's what PP was referring to.

LilySad91 · 08/11/2025 14:50

Totaleclipseofaheart · 08/11/2025 14:41

I have not said anything to her to keep peace and not to make things really awkward. She does everything in a way that doesn’t necessarily comes across aggressive but it does feel like she is asserting her dominance and undermining my views. So of course I don’t do what she tells me but her energy drains me and I have started feeling really anxious every time I see her. I really wish she would just take a step back and stop supervising me. We would have been fine.
DP once said to me that he actually thought she would be worse once the baby is here and so he doesn’t think it has been that bad.

Tell him it's her or me. And be prepared that he will say her and you will have to throw him out

Totaleclipseofaheart · 08/11/2025 14:41

I have not said anything to her to keep peace and not to make things really awkward. She does everything in a way that doesn’t necessarily comes across aggressive but it does feel like she is asserting her dominance and undermining my views. So of course I don’t do what she tells me but her energy drains me and I have started feeling really anxious every time I see her. I really wish she would just take a step back and stop supervising me. We would have been fine.
DP once said to me that he actually thought she would be worse once the baby is here and so he doesn’t think it has been that bad.

OP posts:
Elsvieta · 08/11/2025 14:27

Totaleclipseofaheart · 08/11/2025 12:33

Thank you so much to all of you who have responded. I am overwhelmed by the amount of messages and useful ideas. Thank you!!
We are not married but I think this is beside the point.
My family aren’t around so our lives have always centred around his parents to be frank and I would say the relationship with his mother was fine, cordial, respectful. That changed when our chikd was born. She tells me off for the things I do wrong, corrects me (last time it was in a room full of our friends and was really awkward) gives me unsolicited advice, speaks to my child about me in 3rd person to point out what I am doing wrong. She hasn’t got anything to say to me anymore unless it’s about my child and parenting. It’s really exhausting to have to justify majority of parenting decisions. She knows about them because my DP talks about these things to his parents but then a day later I get an unannounced visit (I am on maternity leave) and she will tell me off for something. The last one was to have a go at me for using the wrong nappies (her son told her we changed the brand we use). It’s absolutely exhausting dealing with her and I need a break. I have no problem my DP seeing her with our DC as often as they please. I just haven’t got the steam to be fending off her punches so to speak.

You don't have to justify anything - she has no authority over you. She doesn't get to "tell you off" - you are neither a child, nor her child. It'll be hard at first, but you really will have an easier time in the coming years if you get this straight with her now. Don't let anyone treat you like that.

KindnessIsKey123 · 08/11/2025 14:18

I think a lot of men struggle when a baby comes. Posters have put it more eloquently than me, but women knuckle down and men often just want to run away. He might be saying he’s at his happiest when his mum and dad come round and help out.

I would also say that my mother-in-law became overbearing as soon as we had a child. She was alright before then. We’ve managed to create some distance which helps.

So what I’m trying to say is it might mean that it’s just knackered when it’s you two and the child, and being with his parents gives him a break. And also when you get to know what you’re doing you rely on the in-laws less so that might become less a problem in the future.

But you do need to have it out with him with what exactly he means. Is he just sleep deprived and being a man child?

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 08/11/2025 13:42

What would happen if you stuck up to her? She clearly doesn’t give a shit about offending or upsetting you, so you are no longer obliged to walk on eggshells to avoid offending or upsetting her. What would happen if you called her out on her behaviour?

It very much does sound like you have a DP problem, he should have your back and he doesn’t. But, since he doesn’t anyway, you might as well try to fight your corner on your own.

thepariscrimefiles · 08/11/2025 13:40

JadeSquid · 08/11/2025 10:28

I think some people need to realise that you need to actually put some effort into sustaining your partner's contentment in the relationship. You can't just expect that they'll be happy enough that they get to call you their partner so things like having compatible needs and desires lose importance.

It is like some people believe others should just feel blessed they have a partner at all, so should just forget about what they might want from life and appease their partner out of fear of losing them.

Yes, even women have to work at their relationships to ensure they remain a solid and fulfilling life partner. Not just a co-parent and housemate.

As the brunt of looking after a new baby normally falls on the mother, OP probably hasn't had time to pander to her immature partner's needs. You obviously think that OP should feel blessed to have such a useless partner and shoud appease him out of fear of losing him.

It's weird for a grown man in his late thirties to say that he is at his happiest with his mum and dad, rather than his partner and his child.

Hons123 · 08/11/2025 13:30

Not married being beside the point? How can you be so blind? If he married you, he would have shown his interfering mother that you are important - not like some rando partner, but a wife. His mother is of the generation, surely, where marriage meant marriage - leaving your parents and being a unit with the wife and a partner - she probably attaches the same level of importance to 'partner' as to her son's friend, tbh. A marriage, if you treat it as marriage should be treated, is a contract, a promise to live by - not just for your two (a piece of paper as they say) but for everyone around your family unit - his parents, random men and women trying to go after you two, your children, the society. How can people not see that? Some commenters on this thread are like 'try marriage counselling' - yeah, right, try it - say 'we are not married, but I want a degree of commitment only usually associated with marriage' and see what a marriage counsellor will tell you. But then again, they will probably happily take your money and counsel regardless.