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underthetrees1234 · 07/11/2025 18:14

New poster. DD (21) plead guilty for perverting course of justice. Three charges, concurrent etc. First offence, MH issues etc and she got 18 months suspended for 18 months and 12 month Mental health treatment requirement. I didn’t have chance to ask solicitor/ barrister what he thought on result but I just think this seems a little harsh? I thought a community order. I won’t go into much detailed but she told multiple lies etc to police. NO one was arrested as a result of her lies. she had MH issues. Probation recommend community order so I I think this seems harsh tbh. Any one any experience.

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RawBloomers · 09/11/2025 19:22

I can understand why you clung on to the recommendation from the Probation Service, but it was probably not realistic to think a custodial sentence wasn’t a likely option.

The sentencing guidelines for the offence are most entirely custodial sentences. It would only be if she had the least possible culpability and caused the least possible harm that a community order should have been in range of the guidelines (and even then it’s only the bottom of the least culpable/least harm range, a custodial sentence is still on the cards).

Sounds like your DD engaged in a sustained and committed campaign to try to use the police against other people and with allegations that can have very serious repercussions for the people accused. So she wouldn’t have fallen into the least culpable category, despite the mental health mitigation.

I agree with a previous poster about the recommendation to try and get yourself some therapy. Some of what you post sounds like you are probably enabling her and your distress is obvious. Therapy should be able to help with this. I would look for a therapist who uses a range of modalities/techniques. You need to have some counseling first and work out what the problems are and what you’re going to work on before you look at things like CBT to help change things.

Foxesandsquirrels · 08/11/2025 00:23

KilkennyCats · 07/11/2025 23:14

Op is complicit in her daughter’s antics.

I didn't say she wasnt. This was one of many of my comments.

Maddy70 · 07/11/2025 23:22

I think the punishment seems very lenient to be perfectly honest. They have taken her mental health into great consideration.

KilkennyCats · 07/11/2025 23:14

Foxesandsquirrels · 07/11/2025 22:05

You need to report your own thread and ask for it to be deleted. OP I truly hope you let go of the shame and guilt you carry for this and get some proper help. You deserve to have peace and firm knowledge that this isn't your fault. =

Op is complicit in her daughter’s antics.

Foxesandsquirrels · 07/11/2025 22:14

McSpoot · 07/11/2025 22:06

The OP is chose to lie about her daughter's cancer. That is on her.

Of course, there are reasons for that though and that's something to explore and learn from in the safety of therapy, not a public internet forum. You think OP is going to feel safe enough to open up to a professional if she's getting this level of slating on here? I think she's got the idea, it's really bad whats happened. Probably better to make her feel like its ok to reach out for help dont you think?

Jamesblonde2 · 07/11/2025 22:11

She sounds like an absolute menace.

McSpoot · 07/11/2025 22:06

Foxesandsquirrels · 07/11/2025 22:05

You need to report your own thread and ask for it to be deleted. OP I truly hope you let go of the shame and guilt you carry for this and get some proper help. You deserve to have peace and firm knowledge that this isn't your fault. =

The OP is chose to lie about her daughter's cancer. That is on her.

Foxesandsquirrels · 07/11/2025 22:05

underthetrees1234 · 07/11/2025 21:08

Can I have this thread deleted please as it could be outed and I’ve revealed too much.

You need to report your own thread and ask for it to be deleted. OP I truly hope you let go of the shame and guilt you carry for this and get some proper help. You deserve to have peace and firm knowledge that this isn't your fault. =

IglesiasPiggl · 07/11/2025 21:53

Sounds like both need help really. Enabling a lie about having cancer is quite deeply into a situation.

QuickPeachPoet · 07/11/2025 21:52

underthetrees1234 · 07/11/2025 18:22

She made false allegations of getting threatening phone calls and death threats

Doing things like that ruins peoples' lives. She is lucky she didn't get a harsher punishment.
So young and already in so much trouble. If she wants a future she needs to sort herself out.

ThePieceHall · 07/11/2025 21:44

My DD made false allegations against me. Triggered by spite, pettiness and anger. I was arrested, detained in a police cell for 21 hours and interviewed under caution before the police decided no further action. My mental and physical health have deteriorated significantly since this ordeal. I have a nine-year-old I have to stay alive for but I live now in a state of trauma. I will never forgive my DD1 for her egregious lies and I will never be the functional person I was before I spent 21 hours in a police cell. All actions have consequences.

LaMarschallin · 07/11/2025 21:43

You were very keen to keep the thread going earlier, OP. You bumped it at 19:23 because nobody had replied for 10 minutes.

McSpoot · 07/11/2025 21:38

underthetrees1234 · 07/11/2025 21:08

Can I have this thread deleted please as it could be outed and I’ve revealed too much.

Yes, I imagine it would be hard for you to explain to your friends and family that you lied about your daughter having had cancer.

Whaleandsnail6 · 07/11/2025 21:19

fraughtcouture · 07/11/2025 21:12

Or… you haven’t got the response you wanted and are embarrassed you’ve been called out.

lying about cancer is heinous. It’s shocking you are going along with it.

Its getting extremely boring on here that the minute people dont get the answers they want, they ask for the thread to be deleted.

I don't know why people bother posting on aibu, as more often than not, they don't want to hear they are being unreasonable

fraughtcouture · 07/11/2025 21:12

underthetrees1234 · 07/11/2025 21:08

Can I have this thread deleted please as it could be outed and I’ve revealed too much.

Or… you haven’t got the response you wanted and are embarrassed you’ve been called out.

lying about cancer is heinous. It’s shocking you are going along with it.

PinkyFlamingo · 07/11/2025 21:10

underthetrees1234 · 07/11/2025 21:08

Can I have this thread deleted please as it could be outed and I’ve revealed too much.

You think you're the only person in the world with this issue?

PinkyFlamingo · 07/11/2025 21:10

OP what mental health issues do you have and have you ever had help?

underthetrees1234 · 07/11/2025 21:08

Can I have this thread deleted please as it could be outed and I’ve revealed too much.

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Foxesandsquirrels · 07/11/2025 21:04

PinkyFlamingo · 07/11/2025 21:00

That's lying because she never had cancer in the first place to be in remission for! That's screwed up.

yup and its easy for OP to say I felt bad, couldn't say she lied, but actually the OP will no doubt like the sympathy people will give her when they say omg I'm so sorry you must be so worried. I'm sure it's not easy for someone to deal with a child that has MH issues to this scale, and OP is probably desperate for people to give them sympathy. Sadly the reality is people are much more likely to give genuine comfort to someone who has a child with cancer than an unattractive MH problem. It's sad all around. I hope OP gets some therapy

fraughtcouture · 07/11/2025 21:02

underthetrees1234 · 07/11/2025 20:13

No, I’m not lieing about the cancer. She generally has physically health issues just not cancer. When I found out she didn’t have it I told family members she’s gone in remission.

You are lying about her having cancer!!! Absolutely repulsive behaviour. Stop enabling her lies

PinkyFlamingo · 07/11/2025 21:00

underthetrees1234 · 07/11/2025 20:13

No, I’m not lieing about the cancer. She generally has physically health issues just not cancer. When I found out she didn’t have it I told family members she’s gone in remission.

That's lying because she never had cancer in the first place to be in remission for! That's screwed up.

PinkyFlamingo · 07/11/2025 20:57

underthetrees1234 · 07/11/2025 20:08

People have done much worse than her and don’t get caught or indeed the sentenced she got!

Right you need to wake up. Big time. You are still trying to minimise and defend what she did. I would imagine this has contributed to her issues over the years if you have parented like this

Allthesnowallthetime · 07/11/2025 20:56

I hope your daughter gets the help she needs.

And that you do too,OP.

Foxesandsquirrels · 07/11/2025 20:56

underthetrees1234 · 07/11/2025 20:53

Thank you again. The police are aware she lied and no action was taken.

That does not mean it wasn't illegal. That means it didn't make the threshold for crown prosecution service to action, but it is part of the overall picture. It's not up to the police to press charges. The police gather evidence and CPS decide if it's going to court.
I really hope this situation serves as a wakeup call for you as well op. I fear you have got so used to her behaviour, you really don't understand how serious it is. Also, even if something is legal, it can still be bad and the start of behaviour that leads to breaking the law.

Foxesandsquirrels · 07/11/2025 20:55

underthetrees1234 · 07/11/2025 20:51

Thanks for this. It’s just so difficult as she is my world and I love her endlessly and as a mother I just help but feel it’s my fault. I raised her didn’t I.

Thats exactly why you need therapy. In the kindest way possible, you are not that important in your child's life. No one is. Just like a child's success is not purely due to one parent, but lots of factors, same goes for sickness and bad decisions. It is difficult to accept, but you are not that important so as to be the reason for this. You are taking on a lot of guilt and it's not healthy. You didn't cause this, but you are enabling this. It is not your job to rescue her from this. It's your job to be a steady presence that is healthy mentally and the only way you can do that is by getting help.

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