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Darlington nurse case flying under the radar

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hardstareglare · 07/11/2025 16:24

Aibu to think that the Darlington nurse case in court right now has not had much press and that it is a very important case.

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NebulousSadTimes · 08/11/2025 17:49

In the Fife case the senior staff in charge of the ED /A&E (a male doctor if I remember correctly) wanted the female member of staff arrested by the police (as in handcuffed in work, charged with a crime, tax funded trial, prison term, loose professional registration, loose current job, loose the ability to get new job) for objecting to the male doctor watching her undress in the female changing room.

When you think you've heard it all, something else comes out of the woodwork. I wasn't aware of the arsehole wanting Sandie handcuffed at work and the rest. That has out cunted all the rest of the utter cuntery that this whole fucking thing is.

🤔Should out cunted be all one word?

Boiledbeetle · 08/11/2025 17:15

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Darlington nurse case flying under the radar
SidewaysOtter · 08/11/2025 15:11

IIRC from dipping in and out of observing the Darlington Nurses case over the last week or so, the nurses were expected to nominate a spokeswoman so that the hospital only had to deal with one complainant, not 26.

But they were also ordered not to discuss the issue amongst themselves. What an effective way for the trust to knee-cap their complaint Hmm

nauticant · 08/11/2025 14:58

Talkinpeace · 08/11/2025 14:19

I believe the Christian Legal Centre are paying the bills.

Their much better than expected Barrister did a really good job.

Now we wait.

That's not correct, they're supporting in part but not completely:

The nurses have already received significant financial and legal support for free. But there are big legal bills still to pay to cover their ongoing employment tribunal case. And they need to be defended against the complaints made to the Nursing and Midwifery Council. And – win or lose - if the case goes further up the courts, these courageous nurses will need your support to make sure they get the world-class support they deserve and need.

SaveMeFromHumanity · 08/11/2025 14:55

Mama2many73 · 08/11/2025 14:14

Also claiming in local pages that he is/was also trying to get his biologically female wife pregnant.

Yep. Impregnating your wife through good ol' piv sex. The most womanly of all womanly acts! 👍

NumberTheory · 08/11/2025 14:51

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 14:10

Thank you to all the posters I have learned so much from this thread.

Is there any support or funding for the nurses?

There is also a fundraiser for the case being run by Christian Concern. Google: crowdjustice Darlington Nurses

nauticant · 08/11/2025 14:51

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 14:10

Thank you to all the posters I have learned so much from this thread.

Is there any support or funding for the nurses?

Search for Support the Darlington Nurses. They're getting low on funds. Employment Tribunals are expensive and ones that last over 3 weeks are cripplingly so.

Talkinpeace · 08/11/2025 14:19

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 14:10

Thank you to all the posters I have learned so much from this thread.

Is there any support or funding for the nurses?

I believe the Christian Legal Centre are paying the bills.

Their much better than expected Barrister did a really good job.

Now we wait.

Mama2many73 · 08/11/2025 14:14

heathspeedwell · 07/11/2025 17:14

The transwoman, who calls himself Rose, admitted in court that he wore boxers with holes in. It's very hard to believe he has gender dysphoria when he didn't mind exposing his genitals to his female colleagues.

Didn't he also ask a pregnant nurse about the size of her breasts?

This kind of harassment of women is happening in hospitals all over the UK. It should be front page news that nurses are still having to put up with sharing changing rooms with any man who claims to be a woman.

Also claiming in local pages that he is/was also trying to get his biologically female wife pregnant.

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 14:10

Thank you to all the posters I have learned so much from this thread.

Is there any support or funding for the nurses?

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DisappearingGirl · 08/11/2025 14:03

Here's a BBC article from yesterday outlining how they had to bring in an academic expert (Jo Phoenix) to explain the no-shit-Sherlock finding that women are likely to feel more distressed than men about having to change in front of someone of the opposite sex.

It was also suggested that Jo may not be considered independent because she is gender-critical - i.e. believes that people cannot change sex, that sex and gender identity are different, and that in some situations sex matters more. In other words a common-sense belief likely held by much of the population.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgk8gjkn3xo.amp

A group of women arrive at the tribunal office. At the head of the group is Bethany Hutchison, who has long blond hair and is wearing a red coat. Beside her are several smartly dressed women with long brown hair.

Darlington trans nurse tribunal told of women's changing room fears

The Darlington hospital employment tribunal hears from a sociology and crime professor.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgk8gjkn3xo.amp

RedToothBrush · 08/11/2025 13:01

Keep in mind with this case the sheer number of sexual harassment cases there are in the NHS full stop. And the way women in the NHS are treated and the way the men (especially those actually found guilty in court) are treated.

It is institutionally sexist.

SaveMeFromHumanity · 08/11/2025 12:57

porridgecake · 08/11/2025 12:45

Stonewall. EDI training - very expensive, provided by Stonewall and other government funded advisors and dubious charities.

And based upon the stonewall deliberate misinterpretation of the actual law.

porridgecake · 08/11/2025 12:45

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 10:27

How has the NHS got to this situation though?

Stonewall. EDI training - very expensive, provided by Stonewall and other government funded advisors and dubious charities.

SaveMeFromHumanity · 08/11/2025 12:17

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 12:16

You know it's obviously relevant that the breast screening patient was a rape survivor but it shouldn't matter because woman should have bodily autonomy. It's awful that she felt compelled to disclose that information too.

Agreed.

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 12:16

You know it's obviously relevant that the breast screening patient was a rape survivor but it shouldn't matter because woman should have bodily autonomy. It's awful that she felt compelled to disclose that information too.

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SaveMeFromHumanity · 08/11/2025 12:16

You might also want to look up Jessica Yaniv if you're not familiar with his particular predilections...

Danielle Muscato and his "suck my ladydick" comments.

Alex Drummond and his "expanding the bandwidth of how to be a woman."

Travis Albanza who, despite 'only' declaring himself non binary and using the pronouns they/them (rather than a full on woman) was Very Upset at not being allowed in the female changing rooms at Top Shop, when the male changing rooms would have serviced his non binary needs equally well.

And so on and so on and so on.

SaveMeFromHumanity · 08/11/2025 12:00

There was also the case of the woman who had been raped whilst an inpatient.

The hospital gaslighted her for over a year telling her that she couldn't have been raped because, as a female only ward, there were only women on it.

Just denied outright that she could have been raped.

They finally admitted that one of the women was actually male.

Over a year.

SaveMeFromHumanity · 08/11/2025 11:58

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 11:50

Do you have a link...or info I can google?
This is awful

https://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2019/12/09/hospital-apologises-to-rape-victim-for-branding-her-request-for-same-sex-breast-screening-medic-as-transphobic/

This is the only one I could find in a quick search but it was widely discussed on FWR at the time.

Basically, you have the right to request treatment from a same sex HCP. This patient had requested it on the basis she had been raped. But the law is that, whilst it can be requested, the hospital can deny it if staffing doesn't allow it.

The issue wasn't so much that they didn't have a female HCP to perform the procedure, the issue was that they said she could have a female HCP but then sent a man because he said he was a woman.

They then denied her treatment on the basis that her request was transphobic.

Hospital apologises to rape survivor for branding her request for same-sex breast-screening medic as transphobic

The NHS trust which runs the Royal Sussex has apologised to a rape survivor for including her letter requesting a

https://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2019/12/09/hospital-apologises-to-rape-victim-for-branding-her-request-for-same-sex-breast-screening-medic-as-transphobic/

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 11:50

SaveMeFromHumanity · 08/11/2025 11:49

There was a high profile case a few years ago when a woman had asked for a female HCP to perform a mammogram.

When a burly bloke with hairy arms and a five o'clock shadow turned up in a dress, she apologised and said she'd asked for a woman. He gruffly replied, "I am a woman." She disagreed, the hospital sided with him and she didn't have her mammogram.

They did later apologise for that.

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Do you have a link...or info I can google?
This is awful

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SaveMeFromHumanity · 08/11/2025 11:49

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 10:51

This is awful.

There was a high profile case a few years ago when a woman had asked for a female HCP to perform a mammogram.

When a burly bloke with hairy arms and a five o'clock shadow turned up in a dress, she apologised and said she'd asked for a woman. He gruffly replied, "I am a woman." She disagreed, the hospital sided with him and she didn't have her mammogram.

They did later apologise for that.

SaveMeFromHumanity · 08/11/2025 11:43

SaveMeFromHumanity · 08/11/2025 11:41

They use Stonewall's definition.

Any man who says he is at any point in time, for any duration and for any reason - Acceptance Without Exception.

Eg should your husband/male partner (if you have one) declare himself a woman in the next 5 mins, he is one. No different to you or me or any other woman.

And he wouldn't even be expected to shave, apply make up or put on a dress. If we don't expect women to subscribe to 'performative femininity', then we can't expect it of men either. Just declaring you are is enough.

SaveMeFromHumanity · 08/11/2025 11:41

hardstareglare · 08/11/2025 10:55

Actually I find the whole thing quite sinister.

How does the NHS define a trans woman then?

They use Stonewall's definition.

Any man who says he is at any point in time, for any duration and for any reason - Acceptance Without Exception.

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