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Why do some partners stay all day?

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Seymour5 · 07/11/2025 10:06

I’ve had orthopaedic surgery recently. Lovely unit, four bedded bay, women only. I was quite incapacitated the first day, in considerable pain, and really needed the loo. The partner of another patient, who was more ambulent, was sitting quite close by. The nurse offered a commode, but I wasn’t comfortable using one, when a man was just a few feet away. I used a frame and struggled to the toilets. I’m old and I just felt embarrassed. Was I being over sensitive?

OP posts:
ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 16:51

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 16:47

Therein lies the issue, we're suppose to understand/care that you want your partner there, but you don't understand/care that he's just a random (annoying) man to us. Being there all the time is ridiculous and selfish.

I am not sure how much it affects you if someone is sitting next to the bed opposite. Curtains should be closed, no one has to see anyone else, and it's a non issue. You have no more or no less privacy because some random stranger has a visitor.

If someone is screaming or the TV is blaring, surely the staff could ask them to leave or switch off the device?

Big sign SILENCE PLEASE and everyone who doesn't comply get out. Unless they are the patient, unfortunately for the other patients..

TheNightingalesStarling · 07/11/2025 16:48

What is needed is a culture where a staff member can tell all visitors to leave temporarily so that medical needs can be met. And a general code of conduct for visitors which if they break they can be refused admission.

ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 16:48

Hollyhobbi · 07/11/2025 15:53

I found the tv blaring all day unbearable after I had an emergency hysterectomy and complications caused by an undiagnosed endocrine disease. I just wanted peace and quiet.

THAT should be banned, and it's easily done.

Sometimes it seems we are trying to make the life of hospital patients as painful and unpleasant as possible.

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 16:47

Paganpentacle · 07/11/2025 16:45

If I'm in hospital, unwell, worried and I need my husband there... I personally dont care about your opinion.

Therein lies the issue, we're suppose to understand/care that you want your partner there, but you don't understand/care that he's just a random (annoying) man to us. Being there all the time is ridiculous and selfish.

Paganpentacle · 07/11/2025 16:45

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 16:21

1 or 2 patients with male partner.
Several patients having to tolerate random man/men.
See how that works?
Being there all the time is an issue, even if you refuse to see it.

Edited

If I'm in hospital, unwell, worried and I need my husband there... I personally dont care about your opinion.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 07/11/2025 16:42

@Paganpentacle Thats your choice. You could have told them to leave?

As I said in my post they didn't listen to me and insisted. I asked over and over for them to leave. If a nurse or Dr had spoken to me alone I would have told them I wanted everyone to go home and my family would immediately do what a medical professional suggested. I can't be the only one in that position. I think it should be something addressed as part of a patients care, they should be asked what they want.

ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 16:38

youalright · 07/11/2025 15:31

When your in hospital with the same people for weeks or months at a time. You bond over all the embarrassing things that happen in hospital like every morning the nurse going round the room asking the stool chart questions. Peeing and pooing infront of each other and hearing each others medical problems. Talking about the staff you like and don't like etc its just what happens when your with people for that long. I've made some great friends in hospital who I still speak to.

That is my idea of hell. It's bad enough I have to share embarrassing things with nurses or doctors, I don't want strangers involved and I really don't want to hear about their problems

It's such a summary of the lack of privacy and dignity in hospitals with communal wards, we should be embarrassed it's still exist in a so called modern country.

Seymour5 · 07/11/2025 16:34

DisappointedD · 07/11/2025 13:02

In this case. Was the visitor meant to telepathically know that the op wanted the toilet?

His partner was aware. It was a small room.

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Kirbert2 · 07/11/2025 16:28

I didn't realise that visiting hours weren't a thing on adult wards any more. I only have experience from when my son was in hospital and whilst parents were allowed at any time, visiting hours were still a thing for other visitors.

I suppose it makes sense if they are relying on visitors to help look after the patient if they are short staffed which usually seems to be the case.

GreenGodiva · 07/11/2025 16:25

DisappointedD · 07/11/2025 10:15

I don’t see it makes much difference having a patient or visitor next door. It’s embarrassing regardless.
Visiting times don’t really change things, you can’t predict when you will need the toilet.
And with nurses being so stretched it is nice to have someone there to help grab stuff, get drinks, help you to toilet etc.

When you are a patient in a ward, is very much all the patients in similar situations and so they get in with it. It’s shocking that visitors and dads are allowed on wards and maternity units without restriction. You honestly think women that have just given birth or had a series surgery want anybody that doesn’t NEED to be there just 18 inches away , separated by a curtain, while they are toileting or being examined? Just no. You have no idea about other peoples issues and trauma. If you want full time or irregular time visitors then pay for a private room or facility, don’t inflict that on other patients just to allay your own boredom.

when I gave birth last time, in a hospital, I had to listen to a massive hairy bookie snoring and farting in the chair next to my cubicle and he was awful. Horrible, complaining, smelly, and rude. I didn’t deserve that and neither did the other women. I’d much rather see better funded maternity and ward care and yes I’d pay more in taxes for it.

RubySquid · 07/11/2025 16:22

PocketSand · 07/11/2025 15:28

I literally had to be on the ward as much as possible for my mum when she was admitted to advocate for her and provide support and care.

She had no history of dementia and had probably suffered a stroke plus had UTI but one of the doctors misread handwritten notes and read arthritis as Alzheimer’s. They were unaware that she had RA and had been seen by rheumatology in the same hospital for years. Her routine medication was stopped abruptly and she was admitted to a dementia ward where her delirium was ignored despite sudden onset of delusional beliefs and hallucinations.

Her personal care including feeding and fluid intake was shocking. I lived 250 miles away and had primary aged DC with additional needs but the staff expected me to be on the ward all day and every day to keep her calm, order her meals, make sure she ate and drank etc. If I left overnight or, god forbid, was not there at the weekend, when I went back I was made to feel guilty that I had left and would be told that she had had a fall, had been distressed etc (because I hadn’t been there to provide 1:1, only I could calm her when she was distressed).

In my absence, she was given no support to eat, drink, wash or change into clean clothes. When I returned she would have an electronic monitor clipped to her clothes so she didn’t fall out of bed (again) but the nurse call device would be deliberately placed out of her reach. They were aware of acute deterioration and she was supposed to have high calorie meals and fluid intake measured but no support to actually eat or drink was provided by anyone other than me.

It’s very distressing to watch a loved one deteriorate due to lack of basic care whilst in hospital because it exceeds the duties of health care workers but is not the duty of nurses or doctors. It is made worse when you are made to feel that it is not the failure of the health service but a personal failure because it is actually your duty to ensure personal care.

I’d prefer the health service to be honest about what will and won’t be provided so that families, additional insurance, the LA can plan to meet the gap.

OP in your case it does sound like the ‘visitor’ was sticking around waiting for discharge - there can be a wait of hours before the paperwork is completed.

Unfortunately this doesn't seem uncommon. My dad had the last 7 weeks of his life in hospital. His wife looked after him and she also helped other patients on the ward. Passing them stuff they wanted and could reach ( water etc) and going to find cutlery for patients that had dinner dumped in front of them with no cutlery etc

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 16:21

Paganpentacle · 07/11/2025 16:16

YOUR needs dont over-ride the person who may require familial support either... see how that works?

1 or 2 patients with male partner.
Several patients having to tolerate random man/men.
See how that works?
Being there all the time is an issue, even if you refuse to see it.

RubySquid · 07/11/2025 16:17

CoffeeCantata · 07/11/2025 10:09

Bring back visiting times! Why can't adults manage by themselves in hospital? They're not infants or small children.

Because the staff no longer look after patients. Most of the time they rely on visitors to do so

Paganpentacle · 07/11/2025 16:16

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 16:12

One patient's needs/desires aren't more important than everyone else though - it's utterly selfish to have what is a random man to everyone else on the ward constantly.

Edited

YOUR needs dont over-ride the person who may require familial support either... see how that works?

Paganpentacle · 07/11/2025 16:15

PeonyRose8 · 07/11/2025 15:53

Unfortunately it’s what the people want. What they want they often get. Years ago patients especially with stroke or brain related problems would have split visiting times to allow them time to have an afternoon nap & allow their brain to rest. This has now gone & visitors sometimes want to stay later than all day. I don’t think the patients truly want a stream of guests. Most want rest or just their closest person.

Neuro and rehab wards DO tend to have set visiting hours and limited numbers of visitors- my dad recently was in hospital due to having a stroke- we couldn't be there all day - they were very strict.

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 16:12

Paganpentacle · 07/11/2025 16:09

If his partner DID need him there... other peoples opinion isn't relevant.
If he's sitting there quietly I dont see an issue.

One patient's needs/desires aren't more important than everyone else though - it's utterly selfish to have what is a random man to everyone else on the ward constantly.

Paganpentacle · 07/11/2025 16:09

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 16:04

Being there all day, and not considering that the other patients also have needs - which might include not wanting a random man around all the time.

Edited

If his partner DID need him there... other peoples opinion isn't relevant.
If he's sitting there quietly I dont see an issue.

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 16:04

Paganpentacle · 07/11/2025 13:20

I cannot see how he was being disrespectful?

Being there all day, and not considering that the other patients also have needs - which might include not wanting a random man around all the time.

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 16:02

ACatAndHerRoboVac · 07/11/2025 13:01

And you’d be told that he isn’t if the ward allows visitors all day. If you repeatedly asked and made a nuisance of yourself, you would be more likely to be asked to leave.

But the nuisance is the male partner who refuses to leave, even briefly. A patient would not be discharged to suit a selfish man.

RanchRat · 07/11/2025 15:55

When my DH had cancer surgery. I turned up in the ward early in the morning, to help him begin eating, walking and going to the loo. The nursing staff were too busy. He got out of there in record time, freeing up a bed and also coming home where he was able to sleep and recover. Sometimes family is needed to help.

Hollyhobbi · 07/11/2025 15:53

I found the tv blaring all day unbearable after I had an emergency hysterectomy and complications caused by an undiagnosed endocrine disease. I just wanted peace and quiet.

PeonyRose8 · 07/11/2025 15:53

Unfortunately it’s what the people want. What they want they often get. Years ago patients especially with stroke or brain related problems would have split visiting times to allow them time to have an afternoon nap & allow their brain to rest. This has now gone & visitors sometimes want to stay later than all day. I don’t think the patients truly want a stream of guests. Most want rest or just their closest person.

Paganpentacle · 07/11/2025 15:53

Dontlletmedownbruce · 07/11/2025 15:39

I dont think people should be there for too long. It's not fair on others. I remember hospital as a young woman and my parents totally stressing me out by insisting on being there. I hate fussing and that's literally what they did all day long. I couldn't sleep or rest with them sitting there gaping at me. They had no interest in hearing what i wanted and kept insisting. I had a longer stint in my mid 30s, about a week and didn't tell anyone except DH. He visited every day for an hour or two and dropped in what I wanted. I looked forward to his visits but was always relieved when he left. I was there to rest and I prefer to rest alone.

Thats your choice. You could have told them to leave?

People with anxiety or serious health issues may NEED their partners there.

ozarina · 07/11/2025 15:44

Then you get the bloke who arrives at 8.30 am interfering with the morning routine and then his chair is pushed so far back through the curtain I thought he was actually visiting me!! PITA. He would call his wife up when he wasn't there and many times she lied and made an excuse to get off the phone!

youalright · 07/11/2025 15:42

Dontlletmedownbruce · 07/11/2025 15:39

I dont think people should be there for too long. It's not fair on others. I remember hospital as a young woman and my parents totally stressing me out by insisting on being there. I hate fussing and that's literally what they did all day long. I couldn't sleep or rest with them sitting there gaping at me. They had no interest in hearing what i wanted and kept insisting. I had a longer stint in my mid 30s, about a week and didn't tell anyone except DH. He visited every day for an hour or two and dropped in what I wanted. I looked forward to his visits but was always relieved when he left. I was there to rest and I prefer to rest alone.

This is how I am I don't ever tell anyone when I'm in hospital I hate visitors for more then an hour its so tiring being in hospital