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Why do some partners stay all day?

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Seymour5 · 07/11/2025 10:06

I’ve had orthopaedic surgery recently. Lovely unit, four bedded bay, women only. I was quite incapacitated the first day, in considerable pain, and really needed the loo. The partner of another patient, who was more ambulent, was sitting quite close by. The nurse offered a commode, but I wasn’t comfortable using one, when a man was just a few feet away. I used a frame and struggled to the toilets. I’m old and I just felt embarrassed. Was I being over sensitive?

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ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 17:14

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 17:12

I've told you why, several times, but apparently men and women are the same to you so it's falling on deaf ears.

Put it that way, I don't use the bathroom with the door left opened whether in a room full of men or women.. I am not sure why you have such a problem with MEN, but yes, happy to confirm random strangers are the same to me.

You are not explaining anything at all, just repeating but they are MEN!

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 17:14

Paganpentacle · 07/11/2025 17:12

Is that because she's not a gasp MAN??

I get it, nobody else matters to you.

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 17:13

ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 17:11

This obviously only applies to maternity ward and is a non issue everywhere else, but the time my partner was there was the only time I could drag myself to the loo! I was very weak, and frankly unwilling, to take my baby in the loo, and I would never leave a newborn alone and unattended in the middle of complete strangers, just because they happened to have popped a baby at the same time. Who cares if someone is female or not.

He presumably wasn't there all day and night though?

bridgetreilly · 07/11/2025 17:12

Honestly, yes, I think you were being oversensitive, OP. If you need a wee, have one. Even if there are restricted visiting hours, you still sometimes need to go when there are visitors around. Or male staff. Or in a mixed ward.

And while you may not want visitors all the time, for some people that is extremely important.

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 17:12

ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 17:10

You keep repeating that a random MAN is a problem for you, without finding any reason to justify or explain

A random MAN is no different from a random woman to me, and most people.

either ban VISITORS - which I completely disagree with - but your problem with MEN doesn't mean it's enough of a reason to ban them in hospitals all over the country.

I've told you why, several times, but apparently men and women are the same to you so it's falling on deaf ears.

Paganpentacle · 07/11/2025 17:12

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 17:10

Sounds like you're doing your best for your mum, but importantly, also being considerate of others. That's a lot kinder than the 'I don't give a shit about others' approach. I hope she's doing ok.

Is that because she's not a gasp MAN??

ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 17:11

This obviously only applies to maternity ward and is a non issue everywhere else, but the time my partner was there was the only time I could drag myself to the loo! I was very weak, and frankly unwilling, to take my baby in the loo, and I would never leave a newborn alone and unattended in the middle of complete strangers, just because they happened to have popped a baby at the same time. Who cares if someone is female or not.

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 17:10

Evaka · 07/11/2025 17:08

I'm in hospital with my mum at the moment. She's elderly with advanced Parkinsons and has just had a hip replacement following a fall on Tuesday.

I'm here to advocate for her, comfort her and make sure she has her needs met. Next week my 41 year old brother will do same.

We're not here 24 7 but well beyond official visiting hours because this is how we show love and care. We'll be reading quietly if not chatting quietly with her.

Both of us will happily step out if someone needs privacy but it's much more important to me that mum is looked after. I'm sure the partners you've seen have a similar motivation.

Sounds like you're doing your best for your mum, but importantly, also being considerate of others. That's a lot kinder than the 'I don't give a shit about others' approach. I hope she's doing ok.

ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 17:10

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 17:06

A random man isn't the same as a random woman on a female ward though.
And no, I'm not suggesting banning them, just not allowing unrestricted and unlimited access.

You keep repeating that a random MAN is a problem for you, without finding any reason to justify or explain

A random MAN is no different from a random woman to me, and most people.

either ban VISITORS - which I completely disagree with - but your problem with MEN doesn't mean it's enough of a reason to ban them in hospitals all over the country.

Paganpentacle · 07/11/2025 17:09

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 17:00

I know you don't 'give a shit', that's evident. It doesn't change the fact that having him there constantly is selfish, and other patients* *would be well within their rights to ask for some respite from a random, unknown and unchecked male.

What the actual fuck do you think he would be doing?
He'd not be interested in you at all... don't flatter yourself.
His concern would be for ME, his unwell wife.
You wouldn't be on his radar at all.
(ETA... not thats its any of your business, and not that its necessary... but he is enhanced DBS checked for his job anyway )

Evaka · 07/11/2025 17:08

I'm in hospital with my mum at the moment. She's elderly with advanced Parkinsons and has just had a hip replacement following a fall on Tuesday.

I'm here to advocate for her, comfort her and make sure she has her needs met. Next week my 41 year old brother will do same.

We're not here 24 7 but well beyond official visiting hours because this is how we show love and care. We'll be reading quietly if not chatting quietly with her.

Both of us will happily step out if someone needs privacy but it's much more important to me that mum is looked after. I'm sure the partners you've seen have a similar motivation.

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 17:06

ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 17:03

The random woman is just the same as a random man for me.

And rules applying to you should apply to my teenage boy too. He should be allowed to have a visitor, ME, just as much as I should be allowed to have a visitor, my husband (or friend, or brother or whoever)

restrict age and number of visitors, fine, but that's it.

A random man isn't the same as a random woman on a female ward though.
And no, I'm not suggesting banning them, just not allowing unrestricted and unlimited access.

ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 17:04

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 17:03

Random unchecked men shouldn't be given free access to female wards.

so you want to ban MEN from wards? Are you quite right 😂

ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 17:03

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 17:01

No, a random woman is not the same as a random man, especially if the woman is also a patient. We're talking about females in hospital, not teenage boys.

The random woman is just the same as a random man for me.

And rules applying to you should apply to my teenage boy too. He should be allowed to have a visitor, ME, just as much as I should be allowed to have a visitor, my husband (or friend, or brother or whoever)

restrict age and number of visitors, fine, but that's it.

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 17:03

ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 17:02

You still haven't explained WHY someone behind a curtain is bothering you simply for existing?

If he's loud, coming to sit on your bed, or being a nuisance, then fair enough, but that applies to male or female - and frankly to kids too. I am not threatened by toddlers, but a screaming and running toddler in the ward should be banned faster than a quiet adult.

Random unchecked men shouldn't be given free access to female wards.

ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 17:02

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 17:00

I know you don't 'give a shit', that's evident. It doesn't change the fact that having him there constantly is selfish, and other patients* *would be well within their rights to ask for some respite from a random, unknown and unchecked male.

You still haven't explained WHY someone behind a curtain is bothering you simply for existing?

If he's loud, coming to sit on your bed, or being a nuisance, then fair enough, but that applies to male or female - and frankly to kids too. I am not threatened by toddlers, but a screaming and running toddler in the ward should be banned faster than a quiet adult.

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 17:01

ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 17:00

why? a random woman is just the same as a random man, I don't feel any safer or "closer' to someone because they are a woman. Being a patient means nothing, they are not necessarily attached to their bed? (or more accurately unable to move for a medical reason)

I wouldn't feel my teen boy is any safer because there's a random female visitor any more than a random male patient either...

No, a random woman is not the same as a random man, especially if the woman is also a patient. We're talking about females in hospital, not teenage boys.

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 17:00

Paganpentacle · 07/11/2025 16:56

Actually I wouldn't expect you to care... and I don't give a shit that you don't.

Close your curtains and then you cant see him- that's your problem solved.

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I know you don't 'give a shit', that's evident. It doesn't change the fact that having him there constantly is selfish, and other patients* *would be well within their rights to ask for some respite from a random, unknown and unchecked male.

ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 17:00

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 16:57

A fellow female patient is in no way comparable to a random man.

why? a random woman is just the same as a random man, I don't feel any safer or "closer' to someone because they are a woman. Being a patient means nothing, they are not necessarily attached to their bed? (or more accurately unable to move for a medical reason)

I wouldn't feel my teen boy is any safer because there's a random female visitor any more than a random male patient either...

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 16:57

ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 16:55

the presence of a random stranger, constantly, would bother a lot of people, but sadly we can't get rid of other patients 😂

A visitor, in itself, I really couldn't care less.

Another patient speaking loudly, on the phone, watching tv without headphones, being a general nuisance, THAT I resent and it affects my recover.

A fellow female patient is in no way comparable to a random man.

Paganpentacle · 07/11/2025 16:56

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 16:47

Therein lies the issue, we're suppose to understand/care that you want your partner there, but you don't understand/care that he's just a random (annoying) man to us. Being there all the time is ridiculous and selfish.

Actually I wouldn't expect you to care... and I don't give a shit that you don't.

Close your curtains and then you cant see him- that's your problem solved.

WinterBerry40 · 07/11/2025 16:56

My dh had day surgery recently , the op isn't done in our local hospital so we had to go to the next county to have it done . It is a round trip of more than 100 miles so I stayed with him as would have nothing to do otherwise .

ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 16:55

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 16:53

The presence of a random man constantly would bother a lot of people, as evidenced by this thread.

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the presence of a random stranger, constantly, would bother a lot of people, but sadly we can't get rid of other patients 😂

A visitor, in itself, I really couldn't care less.

Another patient speaking loudly, on the phone, watching tv without headphones, being a general nuisance, THAT I resent and it affects my recover.

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 16:53

ThatKeenShaker · 07/11/2025 16:51

I am not sure how much it affects you if someone is sitting next to the bed opposite. Curtains should be closed, no one has to see anyone else, and it's a non issue. You have no more or no less privacy because some random stranger has a visitor.

If someone is screaming or the TV is blaring, surely the staff could ask them to leave or switch off the device?

Big sign SILENCE PLEASE and everyone who doesn't comply get out. Unless they are the patient, unfortunately for the other patients..

The presence of a random man constantly would bother a lot of people, as evidenced by this thread.

GehenSieweiter · 07/11/2025 16:52

TheNightingalesStarling · 07/11/2025 16:48

What is needed is a culture where a staff member can tell all visitors to leave temporarily so that medical needs can be met. And a general code of conduct for visitors which if they break they can be refused admission.

Agreed - and if another patient requests that they get some respite from someone's partner being there continually then that should be respected. We must also consider that some women in an abusive relationship may be scared to say they want their partner to leave.