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To think therapy culture is turning self-reflection into self-obsession?

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MirrorFatigueJay · 06/11/2025 21:18

It feels like we’ve gone from under-feeling to over-analysing everything. Not every discomfort is a trauma. AIBU to think constant introspection can actually make people unhappier?

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Jimmyneutronsforehead · 07/11/2025 17:50

Dr940p · 07/11/2025 16:09

“ If you are constantly analysing your own insecurities, you cannot possibly develop the tools to recognise the pain in others. You will basically be a perpetual "victim".

That is complete rubbish. Analysing your own insecurities makes you much better equipped to recognise pain in others .

I think this is where things can get a bit murky. I agree with you but I also agree a bit with the poster you've quoted because you need both validation and accountability for introspection to be meaningful.

My experience with therapy and my experience of friends and family who have had therapy is that there's a huge onus on validation, but accountability can only come from within, and it's painful to hold yourself accountable a lot of the time.

Without accountability, it can just lead to selfishness.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 07/11/2025 17:10

Dr940p · 07/11/2025 16:52

🤣That is just ridiculous.Its the opposite,individuals learn how the human mind works and thus how others will be be thinking and processing , it’s healthy.

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Not when it is self serving
Everyone is different. Some will learn how to be empathic and others will stay with a victim mentality. They lose their loved ones, not because they're a victim but their negativity and self loathing is hard to be around.
You see things in very black and white, individuals have different emotional responses to situations.

Dr940p · 07/11/2025 16:52

ginasevern · 07/11/2025 16:49

I don't think it does. The very word "introspection" means to look inward. When individuals are overly focused on their own thoughts, feelings and problems, they struggle to see situations from another person's perspective or tune in to social and emotional cues, which are necessary for empathy. As I said in my first post, pathologising everything that life throws at us can induce a constant state of victimhood, and victimhood is rarely compatible with empathy.

🤣That is just ridiculous.Its the opposite,individuals learn how the human mind works and thus how others will be be thinking and processing , it’s healthy.

ginasevern · 07/11/2025 16:49

Dr940p · 07/11/2025 16:09

“ If you are constantly analysing your own insecurities, you cannot possibly develop the tools to recognise the pain in others. You will basically be a perpetual "victim".

That is complete rubbish. Analysing your own insecurities makes you much better equipped to recognise pain in others .

I don't think it does. The very word "introspection" means to look inward. When individuals are overly focused on their own thoughts, feelings and problems, they struggle to see situations from another person's perspective or tune in to social and emotional cues, which are necessary for empathy. As I said in my first post, pathologising everything that life throws at us can induce a constant state of victimhood, and victimhood is rarely compatible with empathy.

Shinyredbicycle · 07/11/2025 16:18

Therapy does facilitate self-awareness and self-care in some people, which they can extend to others.

For other people, therapy seems to encourage ruminating introspection and self-absorption that perpetuates a victim mentality, which doesn't leave them with enough bandwidth to think about others.

Both of those are separate from TikTok trash.

Dr940p · 07/11/2025 16:09

ginasevern · 07/11/2025 14:53

Yes, I think "therapy culture" has gone too far and ultimately isn't helping anyone. You can't pathologise everything in life to the 'nth degree. Ironically I think it leads to an unhealthy view of what sadness, setbacks, real trauma and even happiness actually are. I also believe that constant self introspection is the path to selfishness. If you are constantly analysing your own insecurities, you cannot possibly develop the tools to recognise the pain in others. You will basically be a perpetual "victim".

“ If you are constantly analysing your own insecurities, you cannot possibly develop the tools to recognise the pain in others. You will basically be a perpetual "victim".

That is complete rubbish. Analysing your own insecurities makes you much better equipped to recognise pain in others .

Dr940p · 07/11/2025 16:07

EmeraldShamrock000 · 07/11/2025 14:02

Call it life experience.
We obviously live very different lives, different experiences on the situation

Clearly. I have generations in my family that struggle with it including myself and my children. I also have many years experience of working with children who have the condition .

ginasevern · 07/11/2025 14:53

Yes, I think "therapy culture" has gone too far and ultimately isn't helping anyone. You can't pathologise everything in life to the 'nth degree. Ironically I think it leads to an unhealthy view of what sadness, setbacks, real trauma and even happiness actually are. I also believe that constant self introspection is the path to selfishness. If you are constantly analysing your own insecurities, you cannot possibly develop the tools to recognise the pain in others. You will basically be a perpetual "victim".

EmeraldShamrock000 · 07/11/2025 14:02

Dr940p · 07/11/2025 13:18

You have zero evidence for any of that.

Call it life experience.
We obviously live very different lives, different experiences on the situation

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 07/11/2025 13:48

BountifulPantry · 07/11/2025 13:34

So what’s the answer then? Because 6 sessions of CBT ain’t it.

Rewatching the peep show and ordering enough naan breads to keep those feelings buried deep down in your stomach.

Take my advice with a pinch of salt. I'm not a therapist, and I'm still figuring out whether it actually works.

GarlicHound · 07/11/2025 13:46

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BountifulPantry · 07/11/2025 13:34

usedtobeaylis · 07/11/2025 12:10

One the big problems with that is that people can't focus on the basics because they're constantly in survival mode. That's the society we have.

Edit re your edit: coping skills are vital in trying to get out of survival mode.

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So what’s the answer then? Because 6 sessions of CBT ain’t it.

Dr940p · 07/11/2025 13:18

EmeraldShamrock000 · 07/11/2025 13:03

Of course. I didn't say all children or adults with adhd come from chaotic homes. In many cases children from dysfunctional households are misdiagnosed with ADHD due to their behaviour and lack of boundaries, out on the street from toddlers, breaking up things, never told no.
Unless they grow out of it. I have seen many wild children who get diagnosed and within a few years in a school environment, with rules, boundaries and food, they change, no longer staring at ipads, living on sugar.
Try an ipad and sugar diet for a few weeks.
I re-read my post, it did come across that I meant all cases, just as many argue against environmental factors. I agree that it can be both neurology and environmental.
Both of my dc have genetic disorders that are commonly misdiagnosed/cross diagnosed as ASD.

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You have zero evidence for any of that.

Dr940p · 07/11/2025 13:18

EmeraldShamrock000 · 07/11/2025 13:11

It is a spectrum, some people who have adhd can't function enough for cooking or washing themselves or even leave the house due to anxiety.

Yes two of my children have lives seriously impacted by it.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 07/11/2025 13:11

Dr940p · 07/11/2025 12:25

Yep mine included. All my children have it as do I. Very stable, healthy home- vegetarian, outdoorsy and 3 degrees between my husband and I.

The ignorance on this subject is massive.

It is a spectrum, some people who have adhd can't function enough for cooking or washing themselves or even leave the house due to anxiety.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 07/11/2025 13:03

usedtobeaylis · 07/11/2025 12:23

Many children with good diets, happy homes and stable families are diagnosed with ADHD.

Of course. I didn't say all children or adults with adhd come from chaotic homes. In many cases children from dysfunctional households are misdiagnosed with ADHD due to their behaviour and lack of boundaries, out on the street from toddlers, breaking up things, never told no.
Unless they grow out of it. I have seen many wild children who get diagnosed and within a few years in a school environment, with rules, boundaries and food, they change, no longer staring at ipads, living on sugar.
Try an ipad and sugar diet for a few weeks.
I re-read my post, it did come across that I meant all cases, just as many argue against environmental factors. I agree that it can be both neurology and environmental.
Both of my dc have genetic disorders that are commonly misdiagnosed/cross diagnosed as ASD.

ilovesooty · 07/11/2025 12:35

miuri · 07/11/2025 11:35

I’m also a therapist and I agree 100 percent with this.
When i work with children and teens I often encounter an attitude from parents that I need to fix issues which would’ve been day to day stressors 20-30 years ago, such as friendship issues, exam stress, low mood.
We all experience low mood. We all experience stress.
Often I’m sat opposite children who seem confused about why they’re there. Often it’s because they’re angry (usual teenage rebellions not using violence against parents)

I supervise counsellors, including school counsellors, and I agree.

usedtobeaylis · 07/11/2025 12:30

itsthetea · 07/11/2025 12:27

The poster is questioning whether it’s more likely in a disfunctional home - it may be that the disfunctional
home means that it’s harder for the child to develop their own coping mechanisms

No, she's making a sweeping generalisation about the cause of ADHD. Though I'm sure she can speak for herself if she really meant something other than what she said.

itsthetea · 07/11/2025 12:27

usedtobeaylis · 07/11/2025 12:23

Many children with good diets, happy homes and stable families are diagnosed with ADHD.

The poster is questioning whether it’s more likely in a disfunctional home - it may be that the disfunctional
home means that it’s harder for the child to develop their own coping mechanisms

Dr940p · 07/11/2025 12:25

usedtobeaylis · 07/11/2025 12:23

Many children with good diets, happy homes and stable families are diagnosed with ADHD.

Yep mine included. All my children have it as do I. Very stable, healthy home- vegetarian, outdoorsy and 3 degrees between my husband and I.

The ignorance on this subject is massive.

Kickingasssince72 · 07/11/2025 12:24

Some of us never learnt how to sit with the discomfort unfortunately. Therapy has enabled me to relearn that, YABVU.

usedtobeaylis · 07/11/2025 12:23

EmeraldShamrock000 · 07/11/2025 12:11

Many argue that ADHD has a lot of environmental factors.
I agree with it, especially locally, many children with bad diets, hectic homes, dysfunctional family are diagnosed with ADHD. If you took half of them into a calm healthy environment, they'd be different children, similarly with adult's.

Many children with good diets, happy homes and stable families are diagnosed with ADHD.

Dr940p · 07/11/2025 12:20

EmeraldShamrock000 · 07/11/2025 12:11

Many argue that ADHD has a lot of environmental factors.
I agree with it, especially locally, many children with bad diets, hectic homes, dysfunctional family are diagnosed with ADHD. If you took half of them into a calm healthy environment, they'd be different children, similarly with adult's.

And here lies the most ignorant post ever on the subject.🤣

ChatBotBelly · 07/11/2025 12:13

It depends. Some people really need it and resist it. Some people go to therapy and change their life and some people use therapy to learn therapy speak and use that to manipulate and centre themselves.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 07/11/2025 12:11

Dr940p · 07/11/2025 10:26

Experts in the field and consultants.

Many argue that ADHD has a lot of environmental factors.
I agree with it, especially locally, many children with bad diets, hectic homes, dysfunctional family are diagnosed with ADHD. If you took half of them into a calm healthy environment, they'd be different children, similarly with adult's.

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