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For deciding to report past abuse against my son if he asks SS for contact with my ex husband

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atmywitsend1989 · 06/11/2025 17:21

I know ive already made a post recently about his abhorrent behaviour when coming over to stay with us at the weekend (he is in a care home) and I do need to take some distance for my safety and the safety of my daughter. But I'm second guessing my lack of action today on a disclosure he made. DS disclosed childhood sexual abuse a little over a month ago. He told me to not report. I havent told social services or the police so far. I was told that I shouldnt, as it would further damage our relationship when asking for advice but I can't help but feel like I'm staying silent about it all. In the past my son criticised me for being a passive, poor mother for staying with my husband fornas long as I did when would he hit and for once I feel like I'm proving that.

Today I rang his placement to speak to them about an unrelated money issue but they also gave me an update and said that hes eating fine and went out today but that he wants me to know that he wants to see / live with his father. Hes hinted at this before. My ex husband lives abroad but before and after our marriage, he used to frequently travel to the UK for periods of time. He has PR I believe as hes on the birth certificate of both of my kids. Before this he's only had his father's contact details as far as I'm aware

The guilt is gnawing at me. I see why he wouldnt want to disclose to the police. My daughter was assaulted by a non relative outside and I reported it. The charges were dropped. I reported an assault 20 yrs ago myself and the result was similar. But my heart is telling me that it would be wrong to not report if he does propose living with him/having unsupervised contact with him to his social worker. Im not saying he needs to live with me if he really doesn't want to. I dont expect him to at this point, I'd be willing to have him home if his behaviour improves in the future but that depends on him. I just want him anywhere butnwith my ex if the allegations are true, at least while he's legally a child if my hands are tied when he's an adult

I've suggested that he mention it to his CAMHS therapist but he told me that he won't. I'm not in his sessions so I don't know what they discuss nor do I expect to be told all the details.

I havent been able to sleep for these last 2 days over him, I didn't go to work today either. My daughter asked if I was crying when I picked her up from school today.

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atmywitsend1989 · 07/11/2025 13:18

GAJLY · 06/11/2025 19:10

You absolutely have to report this to both the police and social services. He is 16 years old so still a child. You have a duty of care. Do your job.

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You're right.

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DurinsBane · 06/11/2025 23:17

NearlyDec · 06/11/2025 19:02

He has been removed by SS. It’s rare a child that age would get a place in a foster home. It’s a children’s home for teenagers removed by SS.

Ah ok, my mistake. I would call it a children’s home, or group home or similar, in my mind a care home is for old people or very disabled people! Silly of me I know

GAJLY · 06/11/2025 19:10

You absolutely have to report this to both the police and social services. He is 16 years old so still a child. You have a duty of care. Do your job.

osamu · 06/11/2025 19:03

DurinsBane · 06/11/2025 19:01

For a 16 year old to be in a care home, I would assume he is severely disabled in some way?

From what I’ve read up on, he was assumed to have obsessive compulsive disorder and had a thing with impulsive (?) thoughts.. he’d told this to his cahms therapist and they told OP… But he was discharged I think(?) or he was said to not have it with no ocd.. if I’m wrong please correct me..

edit: he wasn’t sent to a care home because of this the social services had taken him..

NearlyDec · 06/11/2025 19:02

DurinsBane · 06/11/2025 19:01

For a 16 year old to be in a care home, I would assume he is severely disabled in some way?

He has been removed by SS. It’s rare a child that age would get a place in a foster home. It’s a children’s home for teenagers removed by SS.

DurinsBane · 06/11/2025 19:01

NearlyDec · 06/11/2025 18:28

OP’s son is in care. SS are aware of the physical abuse from the father but not the sexual abuse from father and uncle. Child doesn’t live with her because he is gay and she has made anti gay stance very clear to him.

For a 16 year old to be in a care home, I would assume he is severely disabled in some way?

osamu · 06/11/2025 18:53

ToKittyornottoKitty · 06/11/2025 18:48

It’s not ‘pissy’, you repeatedly advising the OP she should let her son visit her sexually abusive dad because you aren’t reading things properly is poor advice to give

before I knew he was sexually abusive. I only figured out after reading her separate threads.

Well, regardless, I apologize to you,

and I apologize to OP.. please do not listen to what I wrote before! I have figured out the context behind all of this and do not send your son to that abuser, god, he sounds terrible..

osamu · 06/11/2025 18:51

atmywitsend1989 · 06/11/2025 18:32

He told me it was his father but did not clearly tell me how old he was at the time.

ah, sorry, I completely missed this the notification didn’t come up.

regardless of the time, you mustn’t let your son see this. I hadn’t known everything when I first posted and I was wrong. I thought you were assuming it was his father without your son telling you.

from what I’ve read your sons behaviour is appalling, though I understand he’s had a bad childhood.

sit him down, buy him a treat and ask him to talk about it with you.
do be aware many people despise to talk with parents about issues like this so be prepared for backlash..

if this is too much for you don’t do it and refuse. Unless they’ve emancipated him (which they can’t in the uk), he cant choose now.

there was something I’d read on, where victims purposely returned to abusers as a traumatic response and I’m suspecting this might be the case…

keep yourself safe op xx

ToKittyornottoKitty · 06/11/2025 18:48

osamu · 06/11/2025 18:46

no need to get pissy, I haven’t seen ops post yet, I was reading her previous posts to get a background.

without knowing context for everything, I’d say it’s difficult to understand what’s going on as this post is all over the place.

It’s not ‘pissy’, you repeatedly advising the OP she should let her son visit her sexually abusive dad because you aren’t reading things properly is poor advice to give

osamu · 06/11/2025 18:46

ToKittyornottoKitty · 06/11/2025 18:44

The OP even quoted you and told you, and I’ had quoted and told you… you skim a lot!

no need to get pissy, I haven’t seen ops post yet, I was reading her previous posts to get a background.

without knowing context for everything, I’d say it’s difficult to understand what’s going on as this post is all over the place.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 06/11/2025 18:44

osamu · 06/11/2025 18:37

I think I misread it, sorry. I read the top part and must have skimmed over the part where op wrote about ex allegations.

in that case, he shouldn’t be anywhere near his father. Have you asked him why he wants to see him?

The OP even quoted you and told you, and I’ had quoted and told you… you skim a lot!

ToKittyornottoKitty · 06/11/2025 18:42

Soontobe60 · 06/11/2025 18:37

The first post doesnt make this clear at all.
know ive already made a post recently about his abhorrent behaviour when coming over to stay with us at the weekend (he is in a care home) and I do need to take some distance for my safety and the safety of my daughter
Who is the ‘he’?

Read the whole opening post, she even talks about phoning her sons placement and her ex living abroad, son wanting to visit him…

osamu · 06/11/2025 18:37

ToKittyornottoKitty · 06/11/2025 18:35

He told his mum his father had sexually assaulted him, how is that not confirmed?

I think I misread it, sorry. I read the top part and must have skimmed over the part where op wrote about ex allegations.

in that case, he shouldn’t be anywhere near his father. Have you asked him why he wants to see him?

Soontobe60 · 06/11/2025 18:37

ToKittyornottoKitty · 06/11/2025 18:33

Why would her ex be in care? He’s an adult who lives abroad?

The first post doesnt make this clear at all.
know ive already made a post recently about his abhorrent behaviour when coming over to stay with us at the weekend (he is in a care home) and I do need to take some distance for my safety and the safety of my daughter
Who is the ‘he’?

ToKittyornottoKitty · 06/11/2025 18:35

osamu · 06/11/2025 18:34

ah..! thank you for context…

if father is okay with the son being gay I’m pretty sure that’s the reason he wants to speak with him.

ds could have been sa’d by someone else because right now it isn’t confirmed.

Im sure DS will not take getting reported lightly as id say he might be trying to rekindle him and OPs relationship..

He told his mum his father had sexually assaulted him, how is that not confirmed?

Hayley1256 · 06/11/2025 18:34

Have you asked your som why he would want to live with someone who abused him?

osamu · 06/11/2025 18:34

NearlyDec · 06/11/2025 18:28

OP’s son is in care. SS are aware of the physical abuse from the father but not the sexual abuse from father and uncle. Child doesn’t live with her because he is gay and she has made anti gay stance very clear to him.

ah..! thank you for context…

if father is okay with the son being gay I’m pretty sure that’s the reason he wants to speak with him.

ds could have been sa’d by someone else because right now it isn’t confirmed.

Im sure DS will not take getting reported lightly as id say he might be trying to rekindle him and OPs relationship..

JipJup · 06/11/2025 18:33

osamu · 06/11/2025 18:30

“DS hasn't said when the abuse occurred, only that he was smaller but the timing would be fitting if it was during those days”

I don’t think she’s confirmed it’s his father unless I’ve completely misread the text.. is this a second part of something because many people seem to know much more context about this..

@ToKittyornottoKitty

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is this a second part of something because many people seem to know much more context about this

It's in the first line of the OP.

But I think the OP should've linked to her previous thread.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 06/11/2025 18:33

Soontobe60 · 06/11/2025 18:32

Who’s in care, your ex or your son?

Why would her ex be in care? He’s an adult who lives abroad?

ToKittyornottoKitty · 06/11/2025 18:32

osamu · 06/11/2025 18:30

“DS hasn't said when the abuse occurred, only that he was smaller but the timing would be fitting if it was during those days”

I don’t think she’s confirmed it’s his father unless I’ve completely misread the text.. is this a second part of something because many people seem to know much more context about this..

@ToKittyornottoKitty

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It was clear she was talking about the boys father

Soontobe60 · 06/11/2025 18:32

atmywitsend1989 · 06/11/2025 17:59

Sorry, yes, he's 16. I know that's a murky place legally but he's classed as a child in need according to SS

Who’s in care, your ex or your son?

atmywitsend1989 · 06/11/2025 18:32

osamu · 06/11/2025 18:28

“but he would take out my son for fun days and often neglected to take DD along under the pretense of wanting to spend time with his male child . “

i assume this is why he wants to see him. His DF is probably the ‘cool’ parent to him and he would prefer to talk to him about this.

is your ex civil in any way? So if you organised DS to come see him would your ex be calm and collective when speaking with you? Your mental health is important too.

DS hasn't said when the abuse occurred, only that he was smaller but the timing would be fitting if it was during those days

so its not confirmed it’s his father?

trying to get sense of all this

He told me it was his father but did not clearly tell me how old he was at the time.

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NearlyDec · 06/11/2025 18:30

osamu · 06/11/2025 18:30

“DS hasn't said when the abuse occurred, only that he was smaller but the timing would be fitting if it was during those days”

I don’t think she’s confirmed it’s his father unless I’ve completely misread the text.. is this a second part of something because many people seem to know much more context about this..

@ToKittyornottoKitty

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OP is a regular poster

atmywitsend1989 · 06/11/2025 18:30

ToKittyornottoKitty · 06/11/2025 18:14

So why haven’t you reported it??

Me and DS have a very difficult relationship at the moment, he's been violent ect and I didn't want to betray any trust we've built. On one hand it's giving him autonomy on the other I feel really uneasy and ill considering that he supposedly wants to reconnect with him and the possibility of DD being involved. I've also considered that he doesn't actually want to and is just rebelling against me or provoking me

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osamu · 06/11/2025 18:30

“DS hasn't said when the abuse occurred, only that he was smaller but the timing would be fitting if it was during those days”

I don’t think she’s confirmed it’s his father unless I’ve completely misread the text.. is this a second part of something because many people seem to know much more context about this..

@ToKittyornottoKitty