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MangoBanjoe · 06/11/2025 18:48

No5ChalksRoad · 06/11/2025 17:58

Are they better off? How do we know? Perhaps C has obligations or just wants to save a lot for old age. And does it matter if C is just a friend vs a boyfriend or girlfriend?

It seems as though these third parties (and commenters here) make a lot of assumptions about income, expenses and relationships.

OP is not in any way shape or form a parent to this student.

If you’re arguing that, why shouldn’t all parents get a universal benefit income for their children, split in half?

The answer is because we can’t afford to!

Radiator981 · 06/11/2025 18:45

CloverRiver · 06/11/2025 18:27

The other consideration for the school is that they currently get £14,400 per year for stepson. If they remove bursary and stepson has to be removed, that becomes £0.

They’ll fill the place

InterIgnis · 06/11/2025 18:44

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 06/11/2025 18:32

Sure that might be the case
I was just pointing out it won’t be that simple for him to get UC and get rent paid like the OP and others suggested

either way it’s a cost to the OP that she wasn’t expecting and it’s not really her problem - except now it is

She’s already said she’s prepared for him to move out. If they sell she’ll get her share of the money from the sale, and if she buys him out she’ll have secured a sole asset. Either way she’ll be in a better position than she would be spending money on an unrelated child’s school fees.

No5ChalksRoad · 06/11/2025 18:43

Zempy · 06/11/2025 18:39

@CloverRiver most posters are in agreement that you shouldn’t pay this money.

You appear to want to debate whether the school should/shouldn’t consider your income when deciding on DSC bursary.

It has been explained repeatedly that the school can do what they like in this respect. Your disapproval is irrelevant.

If you won’t pay then the money has to be found from alternative sources or the child leaves the school.

Whether or not the school "can" do it, which I think we all understand, this is still an interesting discussion. Why step on it?

Zempy · 06/11/2025 18:39

@CloverRiver most posters are in agreement that you shouldn’t pay this money.

You appear to want to debate whether the school should/shouldn’t consider your income when deciding on DSC bursary.

It has been explained repeatedly that the school can do what they like in this respect. Your disapproval is irrelevant.

If you won’t pay then the money has to be found from alternative sources or the child leaves the school.

Blondeshavemorefun · 06/11/2025 18:38

Tho if he has a spare £1200 a month to pay for 50% he must earn well and might not get that much uc

again goes on if has any money in the house you both live in if they will pay for the rent

No5ChalksRoad · 06/11/2025 18:37

Jellicoo · 06/11/2025 17:59

It's up to them whether and how they mingle their money.

It's up to the school whether to give her partner free money or not, based on whatever criteria they see fit.

I understand that, but the criteria is unfair. Putting the onus on her to fund an unrelated child's school fees is absurd.

Tootingbec · 06/11/2025 18:35

CloverRiver · 06/11/2025 18:27

The other consideration for the school is that they currently get £14,400 per year for stepson. If they remove bursary and stepson has to be removed, that becomes £0.

That may well be but it doesn’t change the issue which is your DP cannot afford the fees (with or without the bursery it sounds like) without you contributing.

InterIgnis · 06/11/2025 18:33

CloverRiver · 06/11/2025 18:08

I feel as though if we were married it would show our commitment to each other as a couple and as a ‘unit’ in the very least. So although I still wouldn’t have PR for his child, I feel the school would be more justified in making demands on household income, half of which is mine.

His son would still be his sole responsibility. You would be no more obliged to share that upon marriage than you are to share it now.

YANBU, anyway.

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 06/11/2025 18:32

InterIgnis · 06/11/2025 18:30

Over being on the hook for school fees and other related costs? I doubt it. OP seems to be in a much better financial position than her partner, so buying him out could be an option open to her.

Sure that might be the case
I was just pointing out it won’t be that simple for him to get UC and get rent paid like the OP and others suggested

either way it’s a cost to the OP that she wasn’t expecting and it’s not really her problem - except now it is

InterIgnis · 06/11/2025 18:30

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 06/11/2025 18:23

I don’t think - if he is on the mortgage he would get the rent element of UC as he is a homeowner

and as his son is a teenager unless he’s gets DLA I don’t think he could get any UC as a single parent / carer

he would be expected to sell and use his share to house himself
so that would probably impact the OP and her kids even more

Over being on the hook for school fees and other related costs? I doubt it. OP seems to be in a much better financial position than her partner, so buying him out could be an option open to her.

BaconCheeses · 06/11/2025 18:29

And it's insane that this is the second post at there are over 1000 posts on it.

DH can't afford it and you don't want to co sign so dh needs to find his own solution.

CloverRiver · 06/11/2025 18:27

The other consideration for the school is that they currently get £14,400 per year for stepson. If they remove bursary and stepson has to be removed, that becomes £0.

OP posts:
BaconCheeses · 06/11/2025 18:27

The school offer a discretionary bursary.

He won't get it with your income.

They want two adults named so that if one defaults they have back up. It's a private organisation so they are free to make those rules.

You and the school are both being fair.

DH needs to recognise that if SS mother was so bad, he did the right thing in getting custody. However, he cannot new send him to this school in the current circumstances.

He needs to console himself that changing school is the lesser evil.

Your fight is with DH not the school. He needs to find a guarantor if he wants his son to carry on going to that school.

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 06/11/2025 18:23

I don’t think - if he is on the mortgage he would get the rent element of UC as he is a homeowner

and as his son is a teenager unless he’s gets DLA I don’t think he could get any UC as a single parent / carer

he would be expected to sell and use his share to house himself
so that would probably impact the OP and her kids even more

canklesmctacotits · 06/11/2025 18:19

All this is, is the bursar casting around for whoever has the deepest pockets/any money so that they don't have to pay out. It's literally their job, and it's right that they do it properly and set down whatever terms they need to set to ensure their money is distributed in accordance with the terms of the endowments. They're not doing anything wrong, and neither would you be to decline to get involved. They're asking, and you're free to say yes or no.

The child has two living parents. This is nothing to do with you. Don't be fooled into anything because a third party is coming for you, or because of any emotional guilt-tripping because of the mental health of your partner's ex. You should only do this if you want to. It's a very simple, clear cut situation which feels muddied because it's a child's education you're talking about rather than a holiday to Disney. The repercussions of you not offering to pay out of your own pocket, and responsibility for the child's autism rest with his parents. Period.

Ferrissia3 · 06/11/2025 18:19

People are just trying to tick the boxes that they need to. Systems aren't designed to 100% work for %100 of people, 100% of the time - they can't.

Try and come at it from an angle of helping them tick their boxes, rather that what feel fair or seems logical.

GreyPearlSatin · 06/11/2025 18:18

I think the main issue is the co-signing. It's similar to co-signing a loan with someone. The truth is, your partner can't really afford this school. By living with you he loses the bursary either way and you will be on the hook for that money, if you co-sign on top of living with him.

It's lose-lose, but unless you are a millionaire yourself and a couple of tens of thousands of pounds is chump-change to you, there is not a chance in hell I'd be co-signing anything.

Tootingbec · 06/11/2025 18:16

CloverRiver · 06/11/2025 18:08

I feel as though if we were married it would show our commitment to each other as a couple and as a ‘unit’ in the very least. So although I still wouldn’t have PR for his child, I feel the school would be more justified in making demands on household income, half of which is mine.

But they are not making demands on your household income. They are making a not unreasonable request to re-assess a bursery based on change of circumstances.

You don’t have to share anything with them - but the bursery will be removed. Or you share and the bursery goes because unfortunately you are viewed as a “household” with more income than under the old circumstances.

Either have your DP move out with his DSS or he will have to beg the school to show some compassion for his son’s awful experience and they might be able to come to some sort of financial arrangement to soften the blow. But they are under no obligation to do so….

SteveBuscemisRheumyEye · 06/11/2025 18:12

Well, if he really needs this provision then he needs an EHCP, and he should throw himself into this process. I’m very surprised that this was not considered at Court, however?

The bursary situation is completely normal - what is unusual is the fact that neither partners of the parents were considered in the first place. Regardless, I’d be signing nothing. If DP is cross, he needs to channel that into his EHCPA request.

No5ChalksRoad · 06/11/2025 18:10

sandyhappypeople · 06/11/2025 17:58

What difference does her relationship status or intentions make?

Because they are a couple in a household with a dependent trying to get free money out of a school for that dependent.. because the living arrangements have changed, the school now want to assess whether they actually need that financial help or not.. what is so hard to understand?

Let's put it another way...

Single mum on benefits, lets her extremely rich partner move in with her, should she still claim those benefits?

No one is entitled to free money, people are able to access it only when they need it, which is how it should be.

But the are NOT a couple in the sense of being co-parents. OP's income and how she spends it is not relevant because neither the boyfriend/roommate or his child are HER dependents.

If I rent a flat with someone who has a child, does that make me responsible for the financial support of the child? Of course not. Whether or not I am sleeping with that person is irrelevant.

Single mum on benefits moving in with millionaire... I thought we were against women becoming dependent on men for survival? If she is not a legal unit with him, why should his income affect hers? If he hasn't proactively joined with her as a legal unit (aka married or registered partnership) his income is none of anyone else's business.

Tootingbec · 06/11/2025 18:10

OP you are in a loose loose situation here - you are going to have to accept which loss is least worse.

Forget the contractual commitment re:school fees - red herring (you could just do a standing order to your DP of the £ needed and he pays the school without you having anything to do with it)

As multiple posters have said - the school can set whatever criteria for a bursery they want. If your DSS is no longer is eligible for it due to changed circumstances- then that is how it is (unfortunately)

So either you pay towards the school fees and he gets to stay or you don’t and he has to a) leave the school or b) your DH has to find the money elsewhere.

CloverRiver · 06/11/2025 18:08

InterIgnis · 06/11/2025 18:05

If he loses the bursary and has to go to state school then so be it. Even if you were married it wouldn’t be your responsibility
to fund his education.

I feel as though if we were married it would show our commitment to each other as a couple and as a ‘unit’ in the very least. So although I still wouldn’t have PR for his child, I feel the school would be more justified in making demands on household income, half of which is mine.

OP posts:
InterIgnis · 06/11/2025 18:05

If he loses the bursary and has to go to state school then so be it. Even if you were married it wouldn’t be your responsibility
to fund his education.

Jellicoo · 06/11/2025 17:59

No5ChalksRoad · 06/11/2025 17:51

What difference does her relationship status or intentions make? They are NOT married now and she is not the child's parent or guardian. Nor will she ever be.

They have as much of a legal relationship as they do to the person next in the queue at Tesco. For all practical purposes they are roommates. What they do behind closed doors is irrelevant.

It is not for outsiders to determine how they should mingle and share their incomes.

It's up to them whether and how they mingle their money.

It's up to the school whether to give her partner free money or not, based on whatever criteria they see fit.

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