Sick of people on weight loss jabs saying you still have to “put in the work” with wl jabs

To be fair, I did see a thread about someone saying that they'd had a huge curry the first night and felt awful.

One thing that's different to trad weight loss is that because I can just STOP whenever I want during a meal, I'd say I'm more able to have a little bit of what I want - instead of going cold turkey on the "good stuff".

But then my diet habits were never that bad, only portion habits got bad during breastfeeding post-LC.

How are we risking our health, you do understand we are not all suffering rhe same health issues as you?

what risks our health is obesity.

My healths grand 🤷‍♀️ like really pretty much perfect. Mental as well as physical.

I've lost 4 stone on my own over the last 2 years and boy has it been tough. I've now been the same weight for nearly a year and I've been ringing round some clinics (private GP/private hospital) to look into WLI's as I'm sick of eating well but staying the same weight. I'd ideally like to lose another 2 to 3 stone.

But, I'm just not brave enough after talking to my GP about it. I'm type 2 diabetic and will need to come off current medication - and I'm worried about the side effects on my pancreas and gall bladder (had cholecystitis a few times). Having spoken at length to DH about it, I think I'd rather stay at the weight I am. I can't understand how people are risking their health with it, honestly.

I lost 80lb the hard way, and kept it off until long COVID knee capped me (unable to exercise and sugar cravings were a killer combo).

Nothing actually wrong with my current lifestyle except for portion control to lose weight and extra exercise to recondition my body. Neither of which I have the time and willpower for with a toddler in tow now.

It absolutely is easier than willpower, that's the whole bloody point. HOWEVER - your body usually doesn't like losing weight (even if it likes the results) and you can feel a bit whacked even if you didn't put in the mental/physical effort to achieve it.

I would only accept comments to the contrary from someone who's experienced both tbh. If you've never had to lose more than a stone then you're not really equipped to comment.

They do cancel food noise, and if the comfort eating is what makes staying in a calories deficit hard for you, then you actually are quite a good candidate for weight loss jabs. (Alongside some CBT/mindfulness around food too).

I think people are defensive because saying it's an easy way out trivialises all their success, many people have tried to loose weight their whole life and reaching their goal weight has literally been a lifetime wish achieved they don't like to be made to feel like their cheating. But yes, they are quite literally designed to help people loose weight, you can infer that having help makes it easier. That's why they exist. But there other considerations like working out to prevent muscle loss, counting macros and nutrients etc, but largely most people loosing weight do this anyway.

Biased as I lost a lot a lot of weight without jabs before they were available and it was hard and I would have liked to try them if I needed to loose weight again.

And actually, a lot of people don’t really want other people to lose weight as they value being slim, or losing weight the hard way as being something superior. If certainly everybody can be slim, then what’s special about them?

WLI's cost far less than the tens of thousands a proper mummy makeover performed by a UK surgeon will cost so a bit confused how OP will be affording it if WLI are out of reach!

YANBU. Weight loss jabs are actually anti-greed jabs.

It's the compulsive greed and the attitude that hunger immediately needs to be quashed that makes obese people overeat. Hunger is just a mildly unpleasant sensation, it won't harm you.

Mounjaro makes it easy to lose weight. Anyone who says otherwise is being defensive about it. I took it for 5 months and lost 4 stone easily. I’ve managed to maintain but it’s been harder as the food noise came back.

Same here, besides which don't you have to be at the right weight already before you can have a tummy tuck?

I’ve just googled a ‘mummy makeover’… boob job, lipo and tummy tuck?! I know we all have different priorities in life but I’d far rather spend the money on WLI 🤷🏻‍♀️

I would rethink the ‘Mummy makeover’ if you couldn’t afford WLI; you’ve done well so far without them so probably would no longer qualify. You’ll need to work on your diet so that you can eat healthily; that’s what is good about Mounjaro etc - it makes it easier to make good choices.

You keep saying you’re not jealous but it really comes across you are, as you’d love to take the drugs and can’t afford it, I’d just own it really.

yes it’s easier, that’s the whole point, but you still need to do the work, eat the right foods, cal count, exercise, be hydrated, eat your protein etc.

so both things can be true, they are not mutuality exclusive.

and by rhe way, yeah they are great.

Mounjaro took away cravings in their entirety. All my comfort foods: pizza, Chinese, McDonald’s, chocolate and sweets could be celery and lettuce. But it does seem to differ from person to person .

Well, they worked for me with my emotional eating issues, although I have had a couple of binges in the 12 months I've been on them (but a couple over a year versus multiple a week is a vast improvement), so I'd say you can only give them a go. What do you have to lose?

As the original poster, I have shed 20% of my weight doing it the old fashioned way - watching what I eat and upping the exercise

Shifting the weight was actually the easy bit, its been keeping it off ( 2 years now ) that's the hard part

I never even knew the expression "food noise" until I joined here. I thought everyone thought about food all the time

I think about food all my waking hours, what can I eat that I like, really fancy, be healthy, give me the macros I need - when I never want to see another bowl of fruit and yoghurt again?

Im fighting not going to McD's to try some of the world food range, I dont even like McD's but I see the adverts, I want to try. But I know if I step inside the door Id order one of everything, then have to spend the rest of the week cutting back everywhere else

Some habits are so ingrained. It's like if I dont take a drink, I dont look one. If I take just one drink, the bottle in going down the neck. Its the same with chocolate, crisps, bread, butter - if I dont start I can keep away

So I have to shop wisely - I dont buy my triggers. Doesn't stop me wanting them

So making the decision to get off the Yo Yo dieting bandwagon, means I have to deny myself a lot - and denying myself every day is hard. But to be honest, the longer I go before cave ins, the less damage is done - I tend to feel sick and bloaty pretty quick if I eat junk

If an injection stopped that want, made it easier, I would take it like a shot. I dont think it's taking the easy route , not at all. Hopefully the new research into tablets may be that magic bullet for me

Until that is found I have to live as I do. Planning my meals, stopping eating as soon as I feel full, making meals high protein, high fibre , full of veg and legumes , planning trips out to town around meal times so Im not tempted, no snacking

Still its not so bad, I can now at least go out an exercise, joints arent so sore, blood pressure is manageable, and best of all I can wear what I want, rather then what fits

"It definitely doesn’t stop food cravings. It makes you physically ill if you eat the wrong things but it doesn’t stop you wanting them in the first place".

In my case I find the exact opposite. There are lots things I used to love/crave which I don't even like now (including tea, how weird is that!). And I don't get physically ill from anything, I can eat anything I like (eating a muffin right now because my DS made it at school) but often I just don't bother. When I eat the things I still do like I enjoy them just as much, I am just happy with a smaller amount.

Well it’s definitely less effort or people wouldn’t pay for it. People I know on it said they’d never have lost the weight without the jabs stopping the food noise.

OK, now I'm confused...I'm about to start Wegovy but I know that my biggest issue is emotional eating...some people say the WLI help with that, some people say they don't make any difference to that...

I don't know whether to try them or not...part of me is thinking that nothing else has worked for the last 20 years so I might as well give it a try?

I have definitely been putting in the work in the same way I have any other time I have tried to lose weight, but it is easier one WLI than those times - this time I have managed to stick to it. I still have to plan my food as before, buy and cook healthy meals. I still have to put in the effort when it comes to exercising etc it’s not any easier to do that than before. So while it absolutely is easier for me on WLI that doesn’t equate to it being easy

I agree OP. I’ve learned I eat because I want to, not because of hunger. I can eat when not hungry. So I had to wait until hitting the two top amounts before I felt full enough to stop me from eating because I wanted to.

it might be because different people have different reasons for overeating.

Are we upset that people are so casually suggesting getting WL drugs or that they are not acknowledging that it is harder without drugs?

Totally with you OP. WLI users telling people not on them that they still have to work just as hard as they would without them (then why take them if there's literally no advantage?). Its like somebody cycling a bike to a destination and telling the person who walked there that cycling isn't easy... Of course cycling requires a decent amount of effort but it takes a lot longer and is more gruelling to walk the same distance.

I have zero judgement about people using WLI because losing weight is hard and for some people depending on hormones/thyroids/arthritis/lots of issues and circumstances it's damn near impossible! But don't be sanctimonious towards people who are trying to lose weight without them.

I do but it’s usually in this sort of context

person a ‘I’m thinking of starting Mounjaro’
Person b ‘it’s brilliant but it isn’t a fix all … you do still have to put in the work and eat healthily.’

thats all.